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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-10 13:52:42
July 10 2021 13:52 GMT
#81
On July 10 2021 22:51 Elentos wrote:
So Lambo does basically the same thing 6 games in a row and Trap still wasn't ready


Would you like to propose a solution? I'm just curious, because it seems like a fairly reliable way to win a pvz regardless of the stature of your opponent. A bit like the soultrain of old
Year of MaxPax
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 10 2021 13:53 GMT
#82
wow Lambo ! Impressive.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
July 10 2021 13:53 GMT
#83
Trap playstyle is a bit on the "greedy" side of the build, and he need to get a small window of opening to boost his economy and army count. Lambo has been excellent at using those window timing and push into Trap and broke him open.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
July 10 2021 13:53 GMT
#84
Lambo 4-2 Trap. Congrats SR for advancing.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 10 2021 13:54 GMT
#85
Wild, Lambo winning the BO7 :O
Sick stuff from Shopify Rebellion.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 10 2021 13:54 GMT
#86
Damm Lambo ZvP outside of the queen meme, its quite good.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 10 2021 14:01 GMT
#87
Impressive from Lambro, a true mvp!
I hope Trap's PvZ in Code S will be better than the one he showed online in the last weeks, his chances will otherwise be greatly diminished.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 10 2021 14:01 GMT
#88
Year of H̵a̵r̵s̵t̵e̵m̵ Lambo.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
July 10 2021 14:03 GMT
#89
Really impressive performance from Lambo Scarlett and Byun. Congratulations on the win, and GL next vs Kaizi!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
July 10 2021 14:04 GMT
#90
On July 10 2021 20:33 Argonauta wrote:
wait , why did Clem got the best Terran? what was the award reasoning?

Clem did play the toughest schedule among all the Terran players, like facing against every single Ace from each top team, and he had a fairly good record against those guys. I could see their reasoning base on that, but it would be more convincing had Team Liquid made the playoff though.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
July 10 2021 14:07 GMT
#91
On July 10 2021 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 20:33 Argonauta wrote:
wait , why did Clem got the best Terran? what was the award reasoning?

Clem did play the toughest schedule among all the Terran players, like facing against every single Ace from each top team, and he had a fairly good record against those guys. I could see their reasoning base on that, but it would be more convincing had Team Liquid made the playoff though.


Here's a rough translation via DeepL from the official awards thread on scboy:

Perhaps the regular season, especially the opening rounds, was too impressive; perhaps the expectations for INnoVation were too high, but despite not being able to lead TL into the playoffs, TL. "Clem won the title of Best Terran in the regular season. As the single core of the team, Clem beat Rogue and Dark in consecutive matches against DPG to lead the team to victory, and contributed to an exciting TvT battle with TY, Maru and INnoVation; on the other hand, he also became the biggest victim of the league's tactical targeting. In terms of talking points, he really deserves the title MVP.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-10 14:16:17
July 10 2021 14:13 GMT
#92
On July 10 2021 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 20:33 Argonauta wrote:
wait , why did Clem got the best Terran? what was the award reasoning?

Clem did play the toughest schedule among all the Terran players, like facing against every single Ace from each top team, and he had a fairly good record against those guys. I could see their reasoning base on that, but it would be more convincing had Team Liquid made the playoff though.


Maybe they didn't want to give it to Maru because of his relatively easy schedule or to INno because Clem beat him 2-0?

I think it should have been INno by quite a lot, he didn't drop any maps when he shouldn't, won both of his ace match and 2-0 Trap and Rogue. Apart from losing to Clem and maybe dropping a map to DRG he's been excellent all season long.

Clem had a great result in the DPG match and vs INno, but he also missed multiple opportunity to give his team a playoff spot with two ace lost and a drop map to Coffee (and to TY too although that's understandable).
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
July 10 2021 14:27 GMT
#93
On July 10 2021 23:13 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
On July 10 2021 20:33 Argonauta wrote:
wait , why did Clem got the best Terran? what was the award reasoning?

Clem did play the toughest schedule among all the Terran players, like facing against every single Ace from each top team, and he had a fairly good record against those guys. I could see their reasoning base on that, but it would be more convincing had Team Liquid made the playoff though.


Maybe they didn't want to give it to Maru because of his relatively easy schedule or to INno because Clem beat him 2-0?

I think it should have been INno by quite a lot, he didn't drop any maps when he shouldn't, won both of his ace match and 2-0 Trap and Rogue. Apart from losing to Clem and maybe dropping a map to DRG he's been excellent all season long.

Clem had a great result in the DPG match and vs INno, but he also missed multiple opportunity to give his team a playoff spot with two ace lost and a drop map to Coffee (and to TY too although that's understandable).

I dont think Inno was in the convesation because he wasnt even the best player on the Kaizi team, it was Solar. Schedule-wise Inno schedule wasnt that much tougher than Maru and Cure and he had worse record than them. Granted he gave them 2 important wins on AF and DPG (which was not meaningful because the playoff seed has already been set), Solar also perform great in those matches as well.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-10 14:36:41
July 10 2021 14:33 GMT
#94
On July 10 2021 23:27 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 23:13 Nakajin wrote:
On July 10 2021 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
On July 10 2021 20:33 Argonauta wrote:
wait , why did Clem got the best Terran? what was the award reasoning?

Clem did play the toughest schedule among all the Terran players, like facing against every single Ace from each top team, and he had a fairly good record against those guys. I could see their reasoning base on that, but it would be more convincing had Team Liquid made the playoff though.


Maybe they didn't want to give it to Maru because of his relatively easy schedule or to INno because Clem beat him 2-0?

I think it should have been INno by quite a lot, he didn't drop any maps when he shouldn't, won both of his ace match and 2-0 Trap and Rogue. Apart from losing to Clem and maybe dropping a map to DRG he's been excellent all season long.

Clem had a great result in the DPG match and vs INno, but he also missed multiple opportunity to give his team a playoff spot with two ace lost and a drop map to Coffee (and to TY too although that's understandable).

I dont think Inno was in the convesation because he wasnt even the best player on the Kaizi team, it was Solar. Schedule-wise Inno schedule wasnt that much tougher than Maru and Cure and he had worse record than them. Granted he gave them 2 important wins on AF and DPG (which was not meaningful because the playoff seed has already been set), Solar also perform great in those matches as well.


Ok, maybe "by quite a lot" was a bit of an exageration, but I still think it's INno, Solar was arguably better this season, but INno still was very solid all season long.

That's if you don't want to give MVP and Best terran to the same guy, if not I agree it's Cure.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 10 2021 15:07 GMT
#95
Lü Bu fighting!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 10 2021 15:12 GMT
#96
ROFL what is it with Inno and finishing CCs
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
July 10 2021 15:20 GMT
#97
Winnovation!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 10 2021 15:20 GMT
#98
ByuN actually managed to take away Inno's air advantage but it was still not enough
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
July 10 2021 15:21 GMT
#99
What suprising was depsite Inno CC got delayed so much by Byun Reaper, it was still finished ahead of Byun 2nd CC. Was there not enough mineral for Byun to start his 2nd CC earlier?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 10 2021 15:30 GMT
#100
Lü Bu all kill hype!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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