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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-30 02:53:45
June 27 2021 21:16 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Monday, Jun 28 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2021/Season 2

Streams & Casters


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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage:

  • Dual Tournament Format.
  • All matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to the Playoffs

      Map Pool



Group B


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(T)Dream vs (Z)DRG
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(T)INnoVation vs (Z)Dark

Results


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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 27 2021 21:17 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

INnoVation & Dark (12)
 
39%

Dark & Dream (8)
 
26%

Dream & INnoVation (5)
 
16%

DRG & Dark (4)
 
13%

DRG & INnoVation (2)
 
6%

Dream & DRG (0)
 
0%

31 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): DRG & INnoVation
(Vote): Dark & Dream
(Vote): INnoVation & Dark
(Vote): Dream & DRG
(Vote): DRG & Dark
(Vote): Dream & INnoVation

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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-27 21:50:26
June 27 2021 21:50 GMT
#3
I want Innovation and DRG

I think DRG and Dark will make it out

I also want to see 2015 Dream come back and take out these zerg champions, but unlikely
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 06:59 GMT
#4
So today the studio audience is back? Hell yes.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
June 28 2021 07:34 GMT
#5
Did not realise that this was today, great!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
June 28 2021 09:07 GMT
#6
I hope to see top level INnoVation , I feel like every combination of players could qualify although Dark will probably qualify no matter what
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 09:10 GMT
#7
This is actually a "group of death" in term of everyone has about the same chance to advance.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
June 28 2021 09:35 GMT
#8
new map hype!!
~~~~~
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
June 28 2021 09:35 GMT
#9
oooh new map, pretty
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 09:35 GMT
#10
Oblivion AND Nautilus HYPE
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 09:40 GMT
#11
Code S hype!!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 09:45 GMT
#12
Aahhh the beautiful sound of real humans clapping their hands
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
June 28 2021 09:48 GMT
#13
GSL audience back hype!
WriterMaru
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 09:56 GMT
#14
Just wanna point out that Dream, like most terrans at this level, forgot concussive shells
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 09:56 GMT
#15
this game really turned for the worse for DRG
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 10:01 GMT
#16
Tasteless educating us on lurkers is... something else
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 10:04 GMT
#17
DRG is dead
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 10:05 GMT
#18
WTF is DRG doing, he was ahead or at worst on equal footing, why he keep seiging against Tank + Ghost with Lurker alone? Why not counter attack into another base, the map is so freaking open that he can just run into the main with Lings.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 10:08 GMT
#19
Btw both of those players suck since they veto'd Oblivion and Nautilus
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 10:11 GMT
#20
really Artosis? I think Solar is awesome lately
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 10:12 GMT
#21
Does Dream think he is Cure
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 10:17 GMT
#22
not a great match from DRG...
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
June 28 2021 10:18 GMT
#23
DRG really played bad today.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 10:19:58
June 28 2021 10:19 GMT
#24
On June 28 2021 19:17 Die4Ever wrote:
not a great match from DRG...

It was one of the worst TvZ game I have seen him played in months. How could he not freaking scouting the Terran main even once in the entire game? Not knowing the timing of the 3rd and realize its an 2 base all-in was terrible.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 28 2021 10:22 GMT
#25
On June 28 2021 19:11 Die4Ever wrote:
really Artosis? I think Solar is awesome lately


Yeah he's been on fire lately. Can definitely see why he wasn't an early pick in his current form.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 10:29 GMT
#26
that drone had an extra floaty animation getting bounced by that reaper grenade lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 10:40 GMT
#27
that gg timing lol
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 10:42 GMT
#28
On June 28 2021 19:40 Die4Ever wrote:
that gg timing lol


Why hurry when you're comfortable in your chair enjoying a nice game of starcraft?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
June 28 2021 10:46 GMT
#29
I like that style of heavy counters dark recently reintroduced to zvt, makes it more exciting
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 10:54:25
June 28 2021 10:48 GMT
#30
Inno is just furious with that treacherous marine right now. How could you do it
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 28 2021 10:51 GMT
#31
Hey I actually had a night free to watch this. Unpopular picks, but I'm picking Dream and DRG to advance out of this mess. But if Dark advances I wont be mad.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 10:59 GMT
#32
this Hot6ix commercial
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 11:00 GMT
#33
that was legendary
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 11:00 GMT
#34
Just amazing. The main reason we all keep coming back to the GSL.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 11:02 GMT
#35
Double Dragon Phoenix Gaming lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 11:06 GMT
#36
well this is interesting
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 11:08 GMT
#37
doesn't youtube support clips now? why doesn't GSL have it?
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 11:32 GMT
#38
Sick game btw
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
June 28 2021 11:34 GMT
#39
GIANT ROBOT WINS

how often does Terran go Mech and win vs Zerg (or anyone) lol
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 28 2021 11:37 GMT
#40
Broods feel pretty underwhelming in the current game state =/
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 11:42:18
June 28 2021 11:41 GMT
#41
CALCULATED
it had 4 health left lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 11:45 GMT
#42
omg the neurals
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 11:45 GMT
#43
How is Dark still alive lol
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
June 28 2021 11:54 GMT
#44
dark really won this game wtf
~~~~~
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 11:54 GMT
#45
HOLY SHIT LOL what an insane game
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 28 2021 11:55 GMT
#46
Dark is a pure villain.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 11:56 GMT
#47
Another amazing game
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 11:57 GMT
#48
Dark just violate every single BC rights there.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 28 2021 11:57 GMT
#49
Oh my god.
Never seen that before.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
June 28 2021 11:57 GMT
#50
Best usage of infestors of all time. Really a dark.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
June 28 2021 11:57 GMT
#51
That comeback man... love that Dark can play any composition.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 11:58 GMT
#52
What an insane comeback. Cannot believe Dark survived the first big push.

It seems the safest recipe for a great Starcraft game is just to have Dark get really far behind in the early game.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 11:59 GMT
#53
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 12:00 GMT
#54
On June 28 2021 20:59 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series

I'd just link all of Dark's games and be done with
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 12:01:15
June 28 2021 12:01 GMT
#55
Dark killed more with 2 lings than Dream did with 2rax
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 12:08 GMT
#56
On June 28 2021 21:00 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 20:59 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series

I'd just link all of Dark's games and be done with


Entirely defensible choice.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 12:14:08
June 28 2021 12:13 GMT
#57
If the Zerg is good I just dont see how you beat them in this match up on this map other than a timing all in.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 12:28 GMT
#58
HOT6IX!!!
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 12:32:08
June 28 2021 12:30 GMT
#59
On June 28 2021 21:00 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 20:59 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series

I'd just link all of Dark's games and be done with


Two great games from Dark's ZvT. One with Clem, another one with GSL today.

I can claim Dark now as the current best ZvT, followed by Rogue and Reynor.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 28 2021 12:32 GMT
#60
New map hype!!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 12:34:18
June 28 2021 12:34 GMT
#61
this map reminds me of Dual Sight, which reminds me of that sick Leenock vs Mvp GSL semifinal, I think it was game 5, Mvp was dropping like single marauders it was so close at the end
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 12:35 GMT
#62
looks like a minor visual bug with this map, that creep tumor at the top of the ramp has a real funny angle
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 28 2021 12:35 GMT
#63
On June 28 2021 21:30 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 21:00 Durnuu wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:59 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series

I'd just link all of Dark's games and be done with


Two great games from Dark's ZvT. One with Clem, another one with GSL today.

I can claim Dark now as the current best ZvT, followed by Rogue and Reynor.


Watch ye tongue, or ye may summon and be smitten by the wrath of Lord Xainon, Defender of Westeros!
gg no re thx
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 28 2021 12:37 GMT
#64
OBLIVION HYPE
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 28 2021 12:40 GMT
#65
This map feels huge, but looks so beautiful
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 12:41 GMT
#66
Inno is washed
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 12:42 GMT
#67
in the group selections people were saying inno hasn't been playing much, seems to be true
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 28 2021 12:44 GMT
#68
On June 28 2021 21:41 tigera6 wrote:
Inno is washed


Tbf people have been saying that since the beginning of LotV. Although it is more true now than then.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
June 28 2021 12:50 GMT
#69
On June 28 2021 21:44 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 21:41 tigera6 wrote:
Inno is washed


Tbf people have been saying that since the beginning of LotV. Although it is more true now than then.

he has his phases, he did really well in the qualifier
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
June 28 2021 12:51 GMT
#70
Did DRG just forget Baneling Speed? o_O
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 28 2021 12:52 GMT
#71
On June 28 2021 21:35 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 21:30 swarminfestor wrote:
On June 28 2021 21:00 Durnuu wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:59 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series

I'd just link all of Dark's games and be done with


Two great games from Dark's ZvT. One with Clem, another one with GSL today.

I can claim Dark now as the current best ZvT, followed by Rogue and Reynor.


Watch ye tongue, or ye may summon and be smitten by the wrath of Lord Xainon, Defender of Westeros!


Hahahah I loved it.

Dark as current best ZvT player? It's not an unreasonable claim, I would not agree tho.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 28 2021 13:06 GMT
#72
Is there a particular reason Korean Zerg players tend to put their spawning pool in that location, far away from the Hatchery, near to the ramp? Dark also does this. I don't see the EU Zergs do that.
tennisl
Profile Joined March 2018
United Kingdom44 Posts
June 28 2021 13:12 GMT
#73
On June 28 2021 21:30 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 21:00 Durnuu wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:59 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 28 2021 20:56 Durnuu wrote:
Another amazing game


One might say it would be fitting to bring back the Best Games of the Month series

I'd just link all of Dark's games and be done with


Two great games from Dark's ZvT. One with Clem, another one with GSL today.

I can claim Dark now as the current best ZvT, followed by Rogue and Reynor.


I kind of agree with this statement. TvZ Dark's by far best match up. Very strong late game player, Insanely strong spell casting capabilities makes him totally uncomfortable to play against for any Terran player. I feel like turtle terran has a chance against Dark as we saw in game 1. against Dear
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
June 28 2021 13:31 GMT
#74
cmon dream you can do it!!
~~~~~
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
June 28 2021 13:34 GMT
#75
The rematch curse is too strong
WriterMaru
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
June 28 2021 13:36 GMT
#76
Sigh, poor Dream. He was doing so well earlier today too.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 13:39:46
June 28 2021 13:38 GMT
#77
The first series was really bad from DRG, but the second series was complete domination. I think it more like Dream gave DRG too much freedom to build up economy especially in 2nd game.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
June 28 2021 13:39 GMT
#78
sad that dream was so close to making it to the round of 8 but in the end didnt..
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 13:39 GMT
#79
It was more like WTF DRG was doing in the 1st match though. He could have won it had he not making those major mistakes, so I am not suprised he won the last match. Now we might have as many as 4 Zergs in the Ro8 this season.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 14:01 GMT
#80
On June 28 2021 22:06 buzz_bender wrote:
Is there a particular reason Korean Zerg players tend to put their spawning pool in that location, far away from the Hatchery, near to the ramp? Dark also does this. I don't see the EU Zergs do that.

Possibly to avoid getting sniped by the Marine Medivac drop
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 14:20:36
June 28 2021 14:20 GMT
#81
On June 28 2021 22:39 tigera6 wrote:
It was more like WTF DRG was doing in the 1st match though. He could have won it had he not making those major mistakes, so I am not suprised he won the last match. Now we might have as many as 4 Zergs in the Ro8 this season.



Its cuz he had no vision like us spectatores and didnt handle the 2 base all ins. Beside that, Dream had supurb micro. He was also close to winning against Dark in a really close bo3, where Dream didnt play any two base all in!
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 14:25:31
June 28 2021 14:24 GMT
#82
On June 28 2021 23:01 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 22:06 buzz_bender wrote:
Is there a particular reason Korean Zerg players tend to put their spawning pool in that location, far away from the Hatchery, near to the ramp? Dark also does this. I don't see the EU Zergs do that.

Possibly to avoid getting sniped by the Marine Medivac drop


Does pool somehow gave an extra vision when the creep is not spreading?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
June 28 2021 14:28 GMT
#83
my god , i just dont understand innovation. it rly seems like he doesnt care about the game or practice anymore
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
June 28 2021 15:04 GMT
#84
On June 28 2021 23:28 Obamarauder wrote:
my god , i just dont understand innovation. it rly seems like he doesnt care about the game or practice anymore


He truly looks like so, it's kinda sad that he is not that old yet. Wonder if he feels that this meta does not fit him and there is no way to change that?
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
June 28 2021 15:39 GMT
#85
As super sad that it is to see neither Innovation nor Dream advance, it is pretty cool to see DRG make it to the ro8 in GSL.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 15:53 GMT
#86
On June 28 2021 23:20 DarkGamer wrote:
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On June 28 2021 22:39 tigera6 wrote:
It was more like WTF DRG was doing in the 1st match though. He could have won it had he not making those major mistakes, so I am not suprised he won the last match. Now we might have as many as 4 Zergs in the Ro8 this season.



Its cuz he had no vision like us spectatores and didnt handle the 2 base all ins. Beside that, Dream had supurb micro. He was also close to winning against Dark in a really close bo3, where Dream didnt play any two base all in!

Game 1 DRG was literally smashing his entire army into Tanks line and Ghost firing squad in the middle of the map when he can just send the unit to the 3rd/4th/5th base to harass non-stop. Game 2, DRG already saw the Terran units after losing his 4th, while scouting the delayed 3rd from Terran, and thats enough information to just throw down 4 Spores Crawlers. Then when Dream camp outside of DRGNatural underneath the Ramp, instead of surrounding or even pulling back the Lings, he went for the 1 way push into Marine-Tanks and they just died. Dream got good micro, but he is not Clem, and that 2 bases all-in should have never worked.
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
June 28 2021 16:24 GMT
#87
On June 29 2021 00:53 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 23:20 DarkGamer wrote:
On June 28 2021 22:39 tigera6 wrote:
It was more like WTF DRG was doing in the 1st match though. He could have won it had he not making those major mistakes, so I am not suprised he won the last match. Now we might have as many as 4 Zergs in the Ro8 this season.



Its cuz he had no vision like us spectatores and didnt handle the 2 base all ins. Beside that, Dream had supurb micro. He was also close to winning against Dark in a really close bo3, where Dream didnt play any two base all in!

Game 1 DRG was literally smashing his entire army into Tanks line and Ghost firing squad in the middle of the map when he can just send the unit to the 3rd/4th/5th base to harass non-stop. Game 2, DRG already saw the Terran units after losing his 4th, while scouting the delayed 3rd from Terran, and thats enough information to just throw down 4 Spores Crawlers. Then when Dream camp outside of DRGNatural underneath the Ramp, instead of surrounding or even pulling back the Lings, he went for the 1 way push into Marine-Tanks and they just died. Dream got good micro, but he is not Clem, and that 2 bases all-in should have never worked.



I have another opinion on this. Its always easy to judge as an observer but u aint GM 6500 mmr. U can be sure that DRG almost always judges the situation better then if someone like us is playing. U cant compare the observer view with the limited and fast paced ingame view.
U are right that DRG did some mistakes, but thats always the case in sc2. The player with less "mistakes" will win.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
June 28 2021 17:30 GMT
#88
On June 29 2021 01:24 DarkGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2021 00:53 tigera6 wrote:
On June 28 2021 23:20 DarkGamer wrote:
On June 28 2021 22:39 tigera6 wrote:
It was more like WTF DRG was doing in the 1st match though. He could have won it had he not making those major mistakes, so I am not suprised he won the last match. Now we might have as many as 4 Zergs in the Ro8 this season.



Its cuz he had no vision like us spectatores and didnt handle the 2 base all ins. Beside that, Dream had supurb micro. He was also close to winning against Dark in a really close bo3, where Dream didnt play any two base all in!

Game 1 DRG was literally smashing his entire army into Tanks line and Ghost firing squad in the middle of the map when he can just send the unit to the 3rd/4th/5th base to harass non-stop. Game 2, DRG already saw the Terran units after losing his 4th, while scouting the delayed 3rd from Terran, and thats enough information to just throw down 4 Spores Crawlers. Then when Dream camp outside of DRGNatural underneath the Ramp, instead of surrounding or even pulling back the Lings, he went for the 1 way push into Marine-Tanks and they just died. Dream got good micro, but he is not Clem, and that 2 bases all-in should have never worked.



I have another opinion on this. Its always easy to judge as an observer but u aint GM 6500 mmr. U can be sure that DRG almost always judges the situation better then if someone like us is playing. U cant compare the observer view with the limited and fast paced ingame view.
U are right that DRG did some mistakes, but thats always the case in sc2. The player with less "mistakes" will win.

Its a FALLACY to presume that only people who perform better can provide criticism to the individual at the point of discussion. There are countless of writer/commentator never play a lick of professional sports, but that does not invalidate their opinion on such subject. On the same token, fan talk about such topic (aka. barber shop talk) in public forum are part of the interaction in the sport.
We dont want to get offensive, nor get personal with the criticism, but that doesnt mean we should "shut up and watch" just because we are not pro-level SC2 player. All the comments I made are comparing the players to their PEERS as well as their past performance, and those mistakes are mostly avoidable to the players of such high caliber.
Mistake are unavoidable, but top pro normally dont make the FATAL ones that literally could cost them the game and match, or they will get roasted just like any other sport. You can get outplay by your opponent, but that is different from making inexplicably bad decision (the throw) either due to pressure or just poor judgement.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 28 2021 17:37 GMT
#89
On June 29 2021 00:04 parksonsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2021 23:28 Obamarauder wrote:
my god , i just dont understand innovation. it rly seems like he doesnt care about the game or practice anymore


He truly looks like so, it's kinda sad that he is not that old yet. Wonder if he feels that this meta does not fit him and there is no way to change that?


Not that old yet? Inno is older than TY and(purely based on year of birth) he's the next in line for recruitment.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
June 28 2021 22:21 GMT
#90
DRG LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
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DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
June 29 2021 05:08 GMT
#91
On June 29 2021 02:30 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2021 01:24 DarkGamer wrote:
On June 29 2021 00:53 tigera6 wrote:
On June 28 2021 23:20 DarkGamer wrote:
On June 28 2021 22:39 tigera6 wrote:
It was more like WTF DRG was doing in the 1st match though. He could have won it had he not making those major mistakes, so I am not suprised he won the last match. Now we might have as many as 4 Zergs in the Ro8 this season.



Its cuz he had no vision like us spectatores and didnt handle the 2 base all ins. Beside that, Dream had supurb micro. He was also close to winning against Dark in a really close bo3, where Dream didnt play any two base all in!

Game 1 DRG was literally smashing his entire army into Tanks line and Ghost firing squad in the middle of the map when he can just send the unit to the 3rd/4th/5th base to harass non-stop. Game 2, DRG already saw the Terran units after losing his 4th, while scouting the delayed 3rd from Terran, and thats enough information to just throw down 4 Spores Crawlers. Then when Dream camp outside of DRGNatural underneath the Ramp, instead of surrounding or even pulling back the Lings, he went for the 1 way push into Marine-Tanks and they just died. Dream got good micro, but he is not Clem, and that 2 bases all-in should have never worked.



I have another opinion on this. Its always easy to judge as an observer but u aint GM 6500 mmr. U can be sure that DRG almost always judges the situation better then if someone like us is playing. U cant compare the observer view with the limited and fast paced ingame view.
U are right that DRG did some mistakes, but thats always the case in sc2. The player with less "mistakes" will win.

Its a FALLACY to presume that only people who perform better can provide criticism to the individual at the point of discussion. There are countless of writer/commentator never play a lick of professional sports, but that does not invalidate their opinion on such subject. On the same token, fan talk about such topic (aka. barber shop talk) in public forum are part of the interaction in the sport.
We dont want to get offensive, nor get personal with the criticism, but that doesnt mean we should "shut up and watch" just because we are not pro-level SC2 player. All the comments I made are comparing the players to their PEERS as well as their past performance, and those mistakes are mostly avoidable to the players of such high caliber.
Mistake are unavoidable, but top pro normally dont make the FATAL ones that literally could cost them the game and match, or they will get roasted just like any other sport. You can get outplay by your opponent, but that is different from making inexplicably bad decision (the throw) either due to pressure or just poor judgement.


U did miss my point. I never said that you cant critizice the player or the play of them. But "the throw" u talk about is much too often called. Small, not optimal judgements / plays, that the players make, arent "throws", otherwise almost all sc2 games end with a "throw". Back to the game: Dream played a really good game in my opinion but DRG did some missplays. You just exaggerate the mistakes DRG did and dont see the really good play, Dream did.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 29 2021 07:02 GMT
#92
I'm rather surprised that Oblivion got played at all given that the players had less than a week to prepare with it. Hopefully we'll see it more in the future.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 29 2021 07:07 GMT
#93
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10095 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-29 19:22:09
June 29 2021 19:10 GMT
#94
why i keep trusting inno and poor Dream, he deserved to advance
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