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[GSL 2021] Super Tournament 1 - Day 1

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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
January 26 2021 19:08 GMT
#1

Super Tournament


Wednesday, Jan 27 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2020/1

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Format

  • Single-elimination bracket:
  • Round of 16 are Bo5.
  • Quarterfinals are Bo5.
  • Semifinals are Bo5.
  • Finals are Bo7.

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Day One


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(P)Trap vs (Z)Dark
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(T)INnoVation vs (Z)Solar
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(P)sOs vs (T)ByuN
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(Z)DongRaeGu vs (T)Dream

Results


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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-26 19:10:47
January 26 2021 19:09 GMT
#2
Poll: Trap vs Dark

Trap Wins (11)
 
58%

Dark Wins (8)
 
42%

19 total votes

Your vote: Trap vs Dark

(Vote): Trap Wins
(Vote): Dark Wins


Poll: INnoVation vs Solar

INnoVation Wins (12)
 
63%

Solar Wins (7)
 
37%

19 total votes

Your vote: INnoVation vs Solar

(Vote): INnoVation Wins
(Vote): Solar Wins


Poll: sOs vs ByuN

ByuN Wins (11)
 
55%

sOs Wins (9)
 
45%

20 total votes

Your vote: sOs vs ByuN

(Vote): sOs Wins
(Vote): ByuN Wins


Poll: DRG vs Dream

DRG Wins (10)
 
56%

Dream Wins (8)
 
44%

18 total votes

Your vote: DRG vs Dream

(Vote): DRG Wins
(Vote): Dream Wins


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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 26 2021 20:47 GMT
#3
Trap
Inno
Byun
Drg
MaxPax
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1689 Posts
January 26 2021 21:10 GMT
#4
On January 27 2021 05:47 dbRic1203 wrote:
Trap
Inno
Byun
Drg


Dark > overrated Trap
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
January 26 2021 21:49 GMT
#5
I wanna see ByuN and INNo win! Rest probably Trap and DRG
WriterMaru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 26 2021 21:52 GMT
#6
On January 27 2021 06:10 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 05:47 dbRic1203 wrote:
Trap
Inno
Byun
Drg


Dark > overrated Trap


Trap's beaten Dark in all five of their recent encounters.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 26 2021 23:40 GMT
#7
On January 27 2021 06:10 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 05:47 dbRic1203 wrote:
Trap
Inno
Byun
Drg


Dark > overrated Trap


Gemini in shambles
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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States832 Posts
January 27 2021 01:39 GMT
#8
Special should be able to win this if he can manage all TvT's
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 01:42:16
January 27 2021 01:41 GMT
#9
Day 1 is like winner's bracket, Day 2 is loser's bracket.

How did the seedings even work? Even going by GSL points, odd to see Dark-Trap and Cure-Parting, for example. Especially the latter. How can a finalist and semi-finalist be in different seeding pots? And who between Zest and Special could have more points than those two? Just doesn't make sense, on top of my head. Not sure how the real points look like.
gg no re thx
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 01:59 GMT
#10
On January 27 2021 10:41 RKC wrote:
Day 1 is like winner's bracket, Day 2 is loser's bracket.

How did the seedings even work? Even going by GSL points, odd to see Dark-Trap and Cure-Parting, for example. Especially the latter. How can a finalist and semi-finalist be in different seeding pots? And who between Zest and Special could have more points than those two? Just doesn't make sense, on top of my head. Not sure how the real points look like.

I think Dark vs Trap is the only really poorly seeded match, no idea how they came up with that
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
January 27 2021 02:16 GMT
#11
On January 27 2021 10:59 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 10:41 RKC wrote:
Day 1 is like winner's bracket, Day 2 is loser's bracket.

How did the seedings even work? Even going by GSL points, odd to see Dark-Trap and Cure-Parting, for example. Especially the latter. How can a finalist and semi-finalist be in different seeding pots? And who between Zest and Special could have more points than those two? Just doesn't make sense, on top of my head. Not sure how the real points look like.

I think Dark vs Trap is the only really poorly seeded match, no idea how they came up with that

I think it's because neither Dark nor Trap have had great years in terms of GSL Code S: Ro8 Ro16 Ro16 for Dark, Ro8 Ro8 Ro8 for Trap.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 02:40 GMT
#12
On January 27 2021 10:39 Husyelt wrote:
Special should be able to win this if he can manage all TvT's


First round is TvP.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 03:48:38
January 27 2021 03:46 GMT
#13
I'm pretty concerned that ByuN might go three consecutive studio appearances with wrist issues. Fortunately sOs is an easier opponent so maybe he doesn't get so stressed

On January 27 2021 10:59 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 10:41 RKC wrote:
Day 1 is like winner's bracket, Day 2 is loser's bracket.

How did the seedings even work? Even going by GSL points, odd to see Dark-Trap and Cure-Parting, for example. Especially the latter. How can a finalist and semi-finalist be in different seeding pots? And who between Zest and Special could have more points than those two? Just doesn't make sense, on top of my head. Not sure how the real points look like.

I think Dark vs Trap is the only really poorly seeded match, no idea how they came up with that


I'm pretty certain they seed by "GSL points", which have actually existed way back since WoL. Basically, it takes only performance in GSL tournaments into account. It's how they create the four tier pools in order to seed Code S groups.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 03:50:27
January 27 2021 03:49 GMT
#14
On January 27 2021 12:46 Waxangel wrote:
I'm pretty concerned that ByuN might go three consecutive studio appearances with wrist issues. Fortunately sOs is an easier opponent so maybe he doesn't get so stressed

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 10:59 Die4Ever wrote:
On January 27 2021 10:41 RKC wrote:
Day 1 is like winner's bracket, Day 2 is loser's bracket.

How did the seedings even work? Even going by GSL points, odd to see Dark-Trap and Cure-Parting, for example. Especially the latter. How can a finalist and semi-finalist be in different seeding pots? And who between Zest and Special could have more points than those two? Just doesn't make sense, on top of my head. Not sure how the real points look like.

I think Dark vs Trap is the only really poorly seeded match, no idea how they came up with that


I'm pretty certain they seed by "GSL points", which have actually existed way back since WoL. Basically, it takes only performance in GSL tournaments into account. It's how they create the four tier pools in order to seed Code S groups.

yea I'm just surprised cause I forgot they didn't do so well in GSL, although Trap got 3x ro8 which isn't bad

hopefully by now GSL is doing something for Byun, maybe they need alternative desks as a choice for the players, or just a pad on the edge of the desk?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2021 04:43 GMT
#15
Probably gonna crash before this starts but leggo Dark, Solar, Byun, and Dream!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 08:00 GMT
#16
IT'S TIME!
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
January 27 2021 08:04 GMT
#17
Gogo!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
January 27 2021 08:11 GMT
#18
Match number 4223? is that accurate?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 08:18 GMT
#19
My working remote desktop is offline because the customer has DNS issues. I can fully watch SC2! And without having 2nd thoughts or even remorse! Yes!!!
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
January 27 2021 08:18 GMT
#20
lol Queen range nerf saves the warp prism.
Artosis loves Starcraft
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 08:19 GMT
#21
bronze league rally
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 08:19 GMT
#22
Well that was kinda bad by dark.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
January 27 2021 08:19 GMT
#23
wow Trap, perfect timing to attack a swarmhost player!
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 08:28 GMT
#24
On January 27 2021 17:19 Pangpootata wrote:
wow Trap, perfect timing to attack a swarmhost player!

you mean sexy boi rogue ? ;o
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 08:28 GMT
#25
Why are zergs all playing this shitty vs trap? Dark looks completely lost here.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 08:30 GMT
#26
that is many queen
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 08:30 GMT
#27
Dark going a full royalty mode Queens everywhere
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 08:31 GMT
#28
On January 27 2021 17:30 deacon.frost wrote:
Dark going a full royalty mode Queens everywhere

i wonder do they love curry ? ;o
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 08:36:02
January 27 2021 08:35 GMT
#29
I'm surprised how well that fight went for Dark? queens pretty good?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 08:36 GMT
#30
On January 27 2021 17:31 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 17:30 deacon.frost wrote:
Dark going a full royalty mode Queens everywhere

i wonder do they love curry ? ;o

What am I missing here? :D
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 08:37 GMT
#31
omg these DTs
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 08:37 GMT
#32
On January 27 2021 17:35 Die4Ever wrote:
I'm surprised how well that fight went for Dark? queens pretty good?

any hydras comp would da crumbled to trap s timing attack right there
dark clearly had enough ladder games against this shit
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 08:39 GMT
#33
TELEVISED CLOUD!@!#!!!! AW YEAH!!!!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 08:39 GMT
#34
Yea dark set himself way too far behind with his dumb queen walk.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 08:43 GMT
#35
there was a youtube video about slapping chicken to cook it, it's completely unfeasible even with a machine, you either destroy the chicken or the heat gets lost to the air faster than you can slap it
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 27 2021 08:50 GMT
#36
CUMBACK time
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 08:50 GMT
#37
On January 27 2021 17:50 Durnuu wrote:
CUMBACK time

sounds gross
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 08:50 GMT
#38
reverse sweep ? ;oo
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
January 27 2021 08:50 GMT
#39
The ling block on the immortals nice
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 09:02 GMT
#40
hope dude goes for corruptors this time cuz the only answers for mass air is mass air
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 27 2021 09:05 GMT
#41
On January 27 2021 12:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 12:46 Waxangel wrote:
I'm pretty concerned that ByuN might go three consecutive studio appearances with wrist issues. Fortunately sOs is an easier opponent so maybe he doesn't get so stressed

On January 27 2021 10:59 Die4Ever wrote:
On January 27 2021 10:41 RKC wrote:
Day 1 is like winner's bracket, Day 2 is loser's bracket.

How did the seedings even work? Even going by GSL points, odd to see Dark-Trap and Cure-Parting, for example. Especially the latter. How can a finalist and semi-finalist be in different seeding pots? And who between Zest and Special could have more points than those two? Just doesn't make sense, on top of my head. Not sure how the real points look like.

I think Dark vs Trap is the only really poorly seeded match, no idea how they came up with that


I'm pretty certain they seed by "GSL points", which have actually existed way back since WoL. Basically, it takes only performance in GSL tournaments into account. It's how they create the four tier pools in order to seed Code S groups.

yea I'm just surprised cause I forgot they didn't do so well in GSL, although Trap got 3x ro8 which isn't bad

hopefully by now GSL is doing something for Byun, maybe they need alternative desks as a choice for the players, or just a pad on the edge of the desk?


That's why Cure-Parting and Zest-Special stand out more. How does Zest (QF) or Special get seeded above Cure and Parting?
gg no re thx
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 09:05 GMT
#42
NEURAL ON DISRUPTOR
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 09:05 GMT
#43
goat play ;oooooo
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
January 27 2021 09:06 GMT
#44
wow
~~(,,ºº>
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
January 27 2021 09:08 GMT
#45
So is every PvZ series going to take an hour and a half from now on?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
January 27 2021 09:15 GMT
#46
Serious late game
~~(,,ºº>
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 09:21 GMT
#47
Love how dark went into ultra corruptor when it is way too late anyways
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 27 2021 09:28 GMT
#48
This is a pretty sick game tbh, thought Dark was dead 10 minutes ago but he's still fighting
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 09:29:57
January 27 2021 09:28 GMT
#49
dude tried guys , shroud still sucks there is nothing new
now trap just simply warps in one million naruto running chargelots and murder him
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 09:30 GMT
#50
lol Dark doesn't wanna leave
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Rubicant1
Profile Joined October 2019
115 Posts
January 27 2021 09:31 GMT
#51
Well that was hugely entertaining, though the last 10 minutes probably wasn't peak Starcraft...
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 09:32:14
January 27 2021 09:31 GMT
#52
alright 1/4th done with tonight, idk if I can stay awake for another 3+ hours lol
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 09:31 GMT
#53
Turns out lurker spore caster without corruptor doesn't work vs air and then transition into corruptor ultra vs a toss that already does a ground switch is not a good idea
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
January 27 2021 09:32 GMT
#54
As a terran this game makes me torn: do I prefer see the disruptors getting destroyed by lurkers etc, or do I rather see the lurkers getting destroyed?
WriterMaru
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 09:34 GMT
#55
On January 27 2021 18:28 seemsgood wrote:
dude tried guys , shroud still sucks there is nothing new
now trap just simply warps in one million naruto running chargelots and murder him

Shroud is a very good ability. Against mostly air. Trap had roughly half of his damage in templars, archons and disruptors. (I would say most of his damage was in it)
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 09:34 GMT
#56
On January 27 2021 18:32 Poopi wrote:
As a terran this game makes me torn: do I prefer see the disruptors getting destroyed by lurkers etc, or do I rather see the lurkers getting destroyed?

lurkers are overrated af tho
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 09:36 GMT
#57
On January 27 2021 18:34 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 18:28 seemsgood wrote:
dude tried guys , shroud still sucks there is nothing new
now trap just simply warps in one million naruto running chargelots and murder him

Shroud is a very good ability. Against mostly air. Trap had roughly half of his damage in templars, archons and disruptors. (I would say most of his damage was in it)

technically yes : ]
actually no :[
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
January 27 2021 09:41 GMT
#58
INno time!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 09:43 GMT
#59
I hope Solar delivers, he's been doing really well lately, I hope he wins a tournament soon
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2021 09:43 GMT
#60
Nice to have Gyuri in studio and doing interviews starting from the RO16. Missed that in 2020's Super Tournament 2
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
January 27 2021 09:45 GMT
#61
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 09:50:33
January 27 2021 09:49 GMT
#62
On January 27 2021 18:36 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 18:34 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 27 2021 18:28 seemsgood wrote:
dude tried guys , shroud still sucks there is nothing new
now trap just simply warps in one million naruto running chargelots and murder him

Shroud is a very good ability. Against mostly air. Trap had roughly half of his damage in templars, archons and disruptors. (I would say most of his damage was in it)

technically yes : ]
actually no :[

Well that's the point Shroud is a great ability, which works very well on paper and in lower leagues. It is mitigated by storms, bigboom balls, colossi or archons. Protoss has 4 different units how to mitigate the shroud, especially since the only ground anti-air we can talk about at later stages of the game are hydras and they melt against these 4 units.

edit> in other words, shroud is even worse than EMP against zerg, because it has so limited use. But it is a great ability
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t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
January 27 2021 09:55 GMT
#63
I'm so happy that finally a protoss understood how much they can do with in a war of attrition. Thank you trap, gg
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 09:59 GMT
#64
Pathing killing ultralisks in 2 games in a row getting some BW vibes.
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:00 GMT
#65
ultras into win ?? ;o this is illegal
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 27 2021 10:05 GMT
#66
On January 27 2021 19:00 seemsgood wrote:
ultras into win ?? ;o this is illegal

He almost lost the won game with them, so it was legal still.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
January 27 2021 10:10 GMT
#67
I wholeheartedly agree with Artosis. Hope Maru is taking notes. Hellbat pushes do not work!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 10:12:25
January 27 2021 10:11 GMT
#68
On January 27 2021 19:10 Argonauta wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Artosis. Hope Maru is taking notes. Hellbat pushes do not work!


*don't work when they've become a popular meta build that every Zerg is thinking about

Still, they're hardly as all-in as they appear, and the risk-reward seems pretty reasonable at the pro level from what i've seen.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 10:12 GMT
#69
On January 27 2021 19:10 Argonauta wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Artosis. Hope Maru is taking notes. Hellbat pushes do not work!

Maru is probably taking notes from Mvp on how to play with bad health and ignores this
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:17 GMT
#70
On January 27 2021 19:10 Argonauta wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Artosis. Hope Maru is taking notes. Hellbat pushes do not work!

On January 27 2021 19:11 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 19:10 Argonauta wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Artosis. Hope Maru is taking notes. Hellbat pushes do not work!


*don't work when they've become a popular meta build that every Zerg is thinking about

Still, they're hardly as all-in as they appear, and the risk-reward seems pretty reasonable at the pro level from what i've seen.

it only works right after mary drags a 2 hours long ass game and loses on purpose to mind fuck his opponent
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
January 27 2021 10:17 GMT
#71
On January 27 2021 19:11 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 19:10 Argonauta wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Artosis. Hope Maru is taking notes. Hellbat pushes do not work!


*don't work when they've become a popular meta build that every Zerg is thinking about

Still, they're hardly as all-in as they appear, and the risk-reward seems pretty reasonable at the pro level from what i've seen.



I dunno, i think they put the terran in a very bad spot form the getgo.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 27 2021 10:18 GMT
#72
wow ok solar u play brood war we get it
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:19 GMT
#73
dayummmmmmmmmmmmmm
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 10:21 GMT
#74
what kind of starting time is 9:10 CET zzz
~~~~~
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2021 10:22 GMT
#75
It was a good time for Artosis to go to the "tempo" well
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
January 27 2021 10:22 GMT
#76
On January 27 2021 19:21 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
what kind of starting time is 9:10 CET zzz


perfect to put side by side with my zoom morning meetings
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 10:26 GMT
#77
burrowed banelings "Moon tried it, didn't work" hahaha that's an understatement
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 10:26 GMT
#78
oh boy came in just in time for the "burrowed banes are underused" talk
~~~~~
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 27 2021 10:28 GMT
#79
On January 27 2021 19:26 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
oh boy came in just in time for the "burrowed banes are underused" talk

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Baneling the Burrowed?
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:32 GMT
#80
On January 27 2021 19:28 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 19:26 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
oh boy came in just in time for the "burrowed banes are underused" talk

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Baneling the Burrowed?

t's not a story da jedi would tell you
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 10:33 GMT
#81
On January 27 2021 19:28 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 19:26 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
oh boy came in just in time for the "burrowed banes are underused" talk

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Baneling the Burrowed?

Darth Leenock
"Expert" mods4ever.com
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 10:43 GMT
#82
Solar rly likes being reverse swept it seems
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 10:44 GMT
#83
Appears to me that Innovation needs an upgrade and change that HDD into SSD, his booting times are tragic
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2021 10:44 GMT
#84
Let's see the proxy 3-rax for game five :0
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:45 GMT
#85
that escalated so fast i dont even know what happened to solar lul
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:50 GMT
#86
On January 27 2021 19:44 deacon.frost wrote:
Appears to me that Innovation needs an upgrade and change that HDD into SSD, his booting times are tragic

dude just needs PS5 s SSD
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 10:54 GMT
#87
Idk how solar can play so well and then this bad to just get reverse swept, happened vs trap and now vs inno too i think.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
January 27 2021 10:57 GMT
#88
Yes INno!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 10:57 GMT
#89
On January 27 2021 19:54 darklycid wrote:
Idk how solar can play so well and then this bad to just get reverse swept, happened vs trap and now vs inno too i think.

solar and losing to bogus,name a moar iconic duo
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 10:57 GMT
#90
Trap vs. Dark happened too early in the tournament
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
January 27 2021 10:57 GMT
#91
atta boy Inno!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
January 27 2021 10:57 GMT
#92
On January 27 2021 19:54 darklycid wrote:
Idk how solar can play so well and then this bad to just get reverse swept, happened vs trap and now vs inno too i think.



mental weakness, same as old Trap and old Rogue
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 10:59 GMT
#93
On January 27 2021 19:57 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 19:54 darklycid wrote:
Idk how solar can play so well and then this bad to just get reverse swept, happened vs trap and now vs inno too i think.

solar and losing to bogus,name a moar iconic duo

Korean Zergs and underperforming
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 27 2021 11:01 GMT
#94
Inno doing a reverse-sweep :O
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 11:13 GMT
#95
honestly I feel like byun is gonna bop him but I wanna cheer for sos because I like him so much
~~~~~
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
January 27 2021 11:17 GMT
#96
On January 27 2021 19:44 deacon.frost wrote:
Appears to me that Innovation needs an upgrade and change that HDD into SSD, his booting times are tragic

didn't just got an SSD but upgraded to quantum computing.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 11:19 GMT
#97
wp by Inno
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 11:20 GMT
#98
those forcefields went down in slowmo lol
~~~~~
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 11:26 GMT
#99
Prime terrans
"Expert" mods4ever.com
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
January 27 2021 11:26 GMT
#100
Why does Byun refuses to go to vikings every time against Collos?
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
January 27 2021 11:29 GMT
#101
On January 27 2021 20:26 SamirDuran wrote:
Why does Byun refuses to go to vikings every time against Collos?

many terrans do recently. Thing is that Protoss can so easily switch into Disruptors then and the Vikings don't help vs them.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 11:32 GMT
#102
does protoss need a door?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 11:33 GMT
#103
buyn doesnt want to play macro game
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2021 11:34 GMT
#104
Yikes, it's what I feared
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 11:38 GMT
#105
On January 27 2021 20:32 Die4Ever wrote:
does protoss need a door?

Does it matter when the opponent uses a battering ram?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 11:43 GMT
#106
MarauderKingPrime is back!
~~~~~
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 11:44 GMT
#107
Sending gazillion of chargelots to counter attack against marauders ><
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 27 2021 11:44 GMT
#108
What a throw by sOs
MaxPax
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
January 27 2021 11:44 GMT
#109
Byun just smashing through.
Artosis loves Starcraft
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 11:45:20
January 27 2021 11:45 GMT
#110
On January 27 2021 20:38 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 20:32 Die4Ever wrote:
does protoss need a door?

Does it matter when the opponent uses a battering ram?

no door can stop OP stimmy bois tho
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 27 2021 11:46 GMT
#111
On January 27 2021 20:45 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 20:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 27 2021 20:32 Die4Ever wrote:
does protoss need a door?

Does it matter when the opponent uses a battering ram?

no door can stop OP stimmy bois tho

Sentries laugh behind force fields
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 11:49 GMT
#112
On January 27 2021 20:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 20:45 seemsgood wrote:
On January 27 2021 20:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 27 2021 20:32 Die4Ever wrote:
does protoss need a door?

Does it matter when the opponent uses a battering ram?

no door can stop OP stimmy bois tho

Sentries laugh behind force fields

conclusion:the race only needs a jacuzzi
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 11:53 GMT
#113
Time for the annual toss st where we get 6/8 in sf (but this time without nerfs)?
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 27 2021 11:56 GMT
#114
On January 27 2021 20:53 darklycid wrote:
Time for the annual toss st where we get 6/8 in sf (but this time without nerfs)?

Well Stats and Zest are favoured vs Bunny and Special. I d say it s quite hard for the other Protoss to get through though
MaxPax
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 11:57 GMT
#115
On January 27 2021 20:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 20:53 darklycid wrote:
Time for the annual toss st where we get 6/8 in sf (but this time without nerfs)?

Well Stats and Zest are favoured vs Bunny and Special. I d say it s quite hard for the other Protoss to get through though

I think zoun has a decent shot, and parting can easily upset ppl if he's on.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 27 2021 11:58 GMT
#116
On January 27 2021 20:57 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 20:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 27 2021 20:53 darklycid wrote:
Time for the annual toss st where we get 6/8 in sf (but this time without nerfs)?

Well Stats and Zest are favoured vs Bunny and Special. I d say it s quite hard for the other Protoss to get through though

I think zoun has a decent shot, and parting can easily upset ppl if he's on.

Sure. but talking about 6/8 Protoss while we watch the 2nd game with Protoss is quite early I thik
MaxPax
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2021 12:00 GMT
#117
3-rax: is it the hellbat push of TvP?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 12:00 GMT
#118
On January 27 2021 20:58 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2021 20:57 darklycid wrote:
On January 27 2021 20:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
On January 27 2021 20:53 darklycid wrote:
Time for the annual toss st where we get 6/8 in sf (but this time without nerfs)?

Well Stats and Zest are favoured vs Bunny and Special. I d say it s quite hard for the other Protoss to get through though

I think zoun has a decent shot, and parting can easily upset ppl if he's on.

Sure. but talking about 6/8 Protoss while we watch the 2nd game with Protoss is quite early I thik

Wasn't too serious but sOs is the toss i'd put the least faith in to advance and if he does, the chances for toss overperfomance are pretty decent
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 12:01 GMT
#119
Nice defense by sOs there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
January 27 2021 12:01 GMT
#120
lol perfect time for the Colossus to pop.
Artosis loves Starcraft
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 12:02 GMT
#121
welp time to tech up
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 12:04 GMT
#122
I like that byuns prep for this match was "Im gonna 3rax him and hope I win"
~~~~~
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 12:04 GMT
#123
Nice multi-pronged attack by sOs
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 12:05:55
January 27 2021 12:05 GMT
#124
Very impressed with sOs today, I seriously expected him to roll over and die in this match
MaxPax
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 12:06 GMT
#125
On January 27 2021 21:05 dbRic1203 wrote:
Very impressed with sOs today, I seriously expected him to roll over and die

I mean byun played the same strat more or less 5 games, only varying the timing of his third cc, can't rly expect it to work like that i think.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 12:08 GMT
#126
hallucinated probes against widow mines, cause you get 2 probes per hallucination? sick efficiency
"Expert" mods4ever.com
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 12:08 GMT
#127
Byun is dead.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 12:10:00
January 27 2021 12:09 GMT
#128
Looks like I'm gonig to be 1-2 for my LB. Hoping DRG can get me to an even 2-2 tonight.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2021 12:09 GMT
#129
Who could have predicted a 3-2 win for sOs? Oh wait, that would be me (and Aligulac.com )
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 12:09 GMT
#130
Nice series overall! Congrats to sOs!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 27 2021 12:10 GMT
#131
Well, this series was not exactly apex quality-wise, but it had some cutesy stuff from sOs so i can't be unsatisfied.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 12:13:29
January 27 2021 12:11 GMT
#132
On January 27 2021 21:09 Waxangel wrote:
Who could have predicted a 3-2 win for sOs? Oh wait, that would be me (and Aligulac.com )


You are a magician!
Never ever would I have predicted SoS to win

EDIT: Holy moly! Your predicitions are off by one map O.o
I hope for your sake you did play the lottery this week
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 27 2021 12:20 GMT
#133
Wow missed two nail-biters in G2 and G3. Worth the watch?
gg no re thx
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
January 27 2021 12:20 GMT
#134
gogo DRG!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
January 27 2021 12:21 GMT
#135
On January 27 2021 21:20 RKC wrote:
Wow missed two nail-biters in G2 and G3. Worth the watch?

not really
~~~~~
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 27 2021 12:24 GMT
#136
Since when did Dream had glasses? New year, new look?
gg no re thx
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 12:30 GMT
#137
I feel like those lings shouldn't have retreated? looked like they might've killed the tank and maybe a hellion or 2
"Expert" mods4ever.com
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 27 2021 12:48 GMT
#138
day 1 ends with da 3 raxs
wonderful!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
January 27 2021 12:55 GMT
#139
DRG looked not really on point, last game was a disaster
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
January 27 2021 12:56 GMT
#140
KR Zergs back to meme tier
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
January 27 2021 12:58 GMT
#141
1-3 on my LB. Fookin hell.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
January 27 2021 12:58 GMT
#142
I havent seen Zest naked neither Dream...
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 27 2021 13:00 GMT
#143
omg Gumiho coming back would be awesome, and I hope Leenock comes back too
"Expert" mods4ever.com
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
January 27 2021 13:00 GMT
#144
Wow, when will Gumiho coming back? Mech armies all the way.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 14:23:35
January 27 2021 13:00 GMT
#145
I forgot who said it, but I remember a while back some P or Z player mocking the Terrans and saying "all they do is just wait till GuMiho figures strategies out and then copy him" or something along those lines
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
January 27 2021 13:13 GMT
#146
All my future Liquibets will be based solely on Wax's predictions...
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
January 27 2021 13:14 GMT
#147
ByuN lost fuck no .
Wrist issues or sOs actually played well for once?
WriterMaru
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 27 2021 13:23 GMT
#148
A good day for my Liquibet!

It seems that Trap isn't really that overrated, who would have thought?
On the other hand, if Byun feels that has to play like this every time he leaves the safety of his room next online "Katowice" might be the only big trophy he could realistically think to win.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2021 14:17 GMT
#149
On January 27 2021 13:43 Darkhorse wrote:
Probably gonna crash before this starts but leggo Dark, Solar, Byun, and Dream!

Well dang that didn’t go well
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 27 2021 14:35 GMT
#150
I smell a lot of pvps going forward, may the best protoss win !
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
January 27 2021 22:30 GMT
#151
Wow bad day for Zergs. Did not expect them to go 0-3. Wonder if Armani can keep Zerg alive in the ro8.
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