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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 10 2020 08:46 GMT
#261
On October 10 2020 17:42 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?



Dont break their "WCS regional tournaments wins are like code S titles" bobble, they may get hurt

I how long do you think it will be until you know who pops into this thread talking about Serral?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 10 2020 08:47 GMT
#262
On October 10 2020 17:46 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?

The fact that you're still using the number of tourn wins as a measure of skill or race strength says everything about your capacity to think logically. But I repeat myself.

Btw, you didn't repeat "wrong!" enough. A couple times were would've made your "argument" x2 more convincing. Fact.

Tell me the names and their titles then. Go on.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
October 10 2020 08:50 GMT
#263
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Or... it's the GSL skewing the statistics
WriterMaru
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 08:56:59
October 10 2020 08:52 GMT
#264
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming (and that was one major issue in early days StarCraft II, imo) at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 10 2020 08:57 GMT
#265
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 09:03:01
October 10 2020 09:02 GMT
#266
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...

If your enjoyment of game depends on race that wins tournaments, you would consider blink era the best of them all.

Not sure what'd you call that.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16029 Posts
October 10 2020 09:02 GMT
#267
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
October 10 2020 09:03 GMT
#268
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


That‘s mainly a result of Europa having caught up with Korea in some parts and Europe traditionally having tons of Zerg players. It‘s mostly two, to be honest and they both are from Europe, a scene that has traditionally been dominated by Zerg. In Korea, the Zerg dominance is far less severe.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
October 10 2020 09:11 GMT
#269
Trapppppp. Still seems a frequently underrated player which is odd to me.

I feel the Artosis curse is gradually evolving to encompass more things than dooming his prediction to lose.

A game where Arty made the point multiple times that Dark isn’t like those other Zergs, he doesn’t waste his ultras like them... anddd Darks sacced his ultras on a planetary.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
October 10 2020 09:16 GMT
#270
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


Foreigner bias will have people religiously believing the most lopsided 3 years can be a pure coincidence. Why has there never been such a dominance from foreigners with ANY other race. Hmm...
Clément 화이팅
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 09:19:35
October 10 2020 09:18 GMT
#271
On October 10 2020 18:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.

All brain cells have just died. Congratulations. You have accomplished your goal.

Jk there's a couple left. Not many needed to debunk stupid. What's your source, and what is a "victory"?

Their forms:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Serral's non-mirror %s are significantly better. If Maru is skewing more, then maybe aligulac is broken and your imaginary data points prove me wrong. And, I'm not even talking about JUST Serral. The other zerg is arguably just as strong this year as Serral. You know who.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 09:23:43
October 10 2020 09:18 GMT
#272
On October 10 2020 18:03 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


That‘s mainly a result of Europa having caught up with Korea in some parts and Europe traditionally having tons of Zerg players. It‘s mostly two, to be honest and they both are from Europe, a scene that has traditionally been dominated by Zerg. In Korea, the Zerg dominance is far less severe.

sure, that must be it. Rogue winning Blizzcon and 2 IEMs has everything about Korea. Or Dark winning Blizzcon or soO winning IEM.

Like look, I don't mind zergs winning, I mind zergs winning all the time. I want to see other champions, you know, so, I don't know, it's about me looking forward for a Protoss champ more than once in a blue moon.

On October 10 2020 18:18 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 18:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.

All brain cells have just died. Congratulations. You have accomplished your goal.

Jk there's a couple left. Not many needed to debunk stupid. What's your source, and what is a "victory"?

Their forms:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Their all-times:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Serral's non-mirror %s are significantly better. If Maru is skewing more, then maybe aligulac is broken and your imaginary data points prove me wrong. And, I'm not even talking about JUST Serral. The other zerg is arguably just as strong this year as Serral. You know who.

Don't use words you don;'t know what they mean. In the terms of skewing statistics he's right, Maru is bigger anomaly than Serral.

ALSO give us the names of them zergs skewing statistics and their titles!

You see, Serral would be an anomaly if he would be the only zerg winning something. The issue is that we have Rogue here, Reynor here, Dark, soO, Scarlett That's just the champs I remember. And since many zergs win he's not that big of a skewer.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 09:24:57
October 10 2020 09:23 GMT
#273
On October 10 2020 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 18:03 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


That‘s mainly a result of Europa having caught up with Korea in some parts and Europe traditionally having tons of Zerg players. It‘s mostly two, to be honest and they both are from Europe, a scene that has traditionally been dominated by Zerg. In Korea, the Zerg dominance is far less severe.

sure, that must be it. Rogue winning Blizzcon and 2 IEMs has everything about Korea. Or Dark winning Blizzcon or soO winning IEM.

Like look, I don't mind zergs winning, I mind zergs winning all the time. I want to see other champions, you know, so, I don't know, it's about me looking forward for a Protoss champ more than once in a blue moon.

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 18:18 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 18:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.

All brain cells have just died. Congratulations. You have accomplished your goal.

Jk there's a couple left. Not many needed to debunk stupid. What's your source, and what is a "victory"?

Their forms:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Their all-times:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Serral's non-mirror %s are significantly better. If Maru is skewing more, then maybe aligulac is broken and your imaginary data points prove me wrong. And, I'm not even talking about JUST Serral. The other zerg is arguably just as strong this year as Serral. You know who.

Don't use words you don;'t know what they mean. In the terms of skewing statistics he's right, Maru is bigger anomaly than Serral.

ALSO give us the names of them zergs skewing statistics and their titles!

I used elementary words. I guess, to you, they must be pretty high-level.

I don't know what data you have to back up your opinion, but it seems people around here rely more on feelings than data. "Titles" don't mean much, unless you think whatever the die lands on is more important than consistent results.

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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 10 2020 09:46 GMT
#274
On October 10 2020 18:23 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 18:03 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


That‘s mainly a result of Europa having caught up with Korea in some parts and Europe traditionally having tons of Zerg players. It‘s mostly two, to be honest and they both are from Europe, a scene that has traditionally been dominated by Zerg. In Korea, the Zerg dominance is far less severe.

sure, that must be it. Rogue winning Blizzcon and 2 IEMs has everything about Korea. Or Dark winning Blizzcon or soO winning IEM.

Like look, I don't mind zergs winning, I mind zergs winning all the time. I want to see other champions, you know, so, I don't know, it's about me looking forward for a Protoss champ more than once in a blue moon.

On October 10 2020 18:18 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 18:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.

All brain cells have just died. Congratulations. You have accomplished your goal.

Jk there's a couple left. Not many needed to debunk stupid. What's your source, and what is a "victory"?

Their forms:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Their all-times:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Serral's non-mirror %s are significantly better. If Maru is skewing more, then maybe aligulac is broken and your imaginary data points prove me wrong. And, I'm not even talking about JUST Serral. The other zerg is arguably just as strong this year as Serral. You know who.

Don't use words you don;'t know what they mean. In the terms of skewing statistics he's right, Maru is bigger anomaly than Serral.

ALSO give us the names of them zergs skewing statistics and their titles!

I used elementary words. I guess, to you, they must be pretty high-level.

I don't know what data you have to back up your opinion, but it seems people around here rely more on feelings than data. "Titles" don't mean much, unless you think whatever the die lands on is more important than consistent results.

Try to use them correctly the next time then.

The names! Where are the 2 names!!!!
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 10 2020 09:47 GMT
#275
rip liquibets
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
October 10 2020 09:56 GMT
#276
Dark did look great until 10 min imo.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 10 2020 10:01 GMT
#277
On October 10 2020 18:16 Calliope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


Foreigner bias will have people religiously believing the most lopsided 3 years can be a pure coincidence. Why has there never been such a dominance from foreigners with ANY other race. Hmm...

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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
October 10 2020 10:07 GMT
#278
sometimes when reading this threads, I imagine Maru or Serral together in a room drinking tea and laughing while reading this fights on TL.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16029 Posts
October 10 2020 10:08 GMT
#279
On October 10 2020 18:18 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 18:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.

All brain cells have just died. Congratulations. You have accomplished your goal.

Jk there's a couple left. Not many needed to debunk stupid. What's your source, and what is a "victory"?

Their forms:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Serral's non-mirror %s are significantly better. If Maru is skewing more, then maybe aligulac is broken and your imaginary data points prove me wrong. And, I'm not even talking about JUST Serral. The other zerg is arguably just as strong this year as Serral. You know who.

tournament victories - I thought that was clear.
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 10 2020 10:09 GMT
#280
On October 10 2020 18:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 18:23 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 18:03 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:52 Swisslink wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I cannot tell you how much wrong are you, check the results and for example who won the WC titles.

Also you realize Rogue won more than Serral this year? so who are the 2 people?


The fact that few players win most of the tournaments just means that the game is at a very stable spot with random bullshittery no longer determining the outcome of the tournaments, imo. Whether that‘s a good thing from a viewer perspective is an entirely different conversation. Weird games have alsways been awesome to watch. But having players that are able to consistently perform really well and having them rarely fall to underdogs who just throw some weird builds they could not have possibly seen coming at them is - at least from a competitive standpoint - a good thing.

Yes, and all of them are zergs, what a coincidence. For 3 years the game is great. If you're zerg. C'mon...


That‘s mainly a result of Europa having caught up with Korea in some parts and Europe traditionally having tons of Zerg players. It‘s mostly two, to be honest and they both are from Europe, a scene that has traditionally been dominated by Zerg. In Korea, the Zerg dominance is far less severe.

sure, that must be it. Rogue winning Blizzcon and 2 IEMs has everything about Korea. Or Dark winning Blizzcon or soO winning IEM.

Like look, I don't mind zergs winning, I mind zergs winning all the time. I want to see other champions, you know, so, I don't know, it's about me looking forward for a Protoss champ more than once in a blue moon.

On October 10 2020 18:18 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 18:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:30 tigon_ridge wrote:
On October 10 2020 17:02 Tsubbi wrote:
korean zerg level is so disappointing compared to europe atm

SHHHHHHH. These people aren't supposed to know that zerg isn't actually op, and that it's just the top two players skewing the statistics with their superior consistency. Please be respectful as to not dispel their delusion prematurely. Let it melt slowly and painfully before their myopic eyes.

Serral: 38% of Zerg victories since 2018
Maru: 55% of Terran victories since 2018

Maru is skewing the statistics for terran harder than Serral for Zerg.

All brain cells have just died. Congratulations. You have accomplished your goal.

Jk there's a couple left. Not many needed to debunk stupid. What's your source, and what is a "victory"?

Their forms:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Their all-times:
http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/
http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/

Serral's non-mirror %s are significantly better. If Maru is skewing more, then maybe aligulac is broken and your imaginary data points prove me wrong. And, I'm not even talking about JUST Serral. The other zerg is arguably just as strong this year as Serral. You know who.

Don't use words you don;'t know what they mean. In the terms of skewing statistics he's right, Maru is bigger anomaly than Serral.

ALSO give us the names of them zergs skewing statistics and their titles!

I used elementary words. I guess, to you, they must be pretty high-level.

I don't know what data you have to back up your opinion, but it seems people around here rely more on feelings than data. "Titles" don't mean much, unless you think whatever the die lands on is more important than consistent results.

Try to use them correctly the next time then.

The names! Where are the 2 names!!!!

Oooof! If you still don't know who the two best zergs are, there's nothing anyone can say that will help you. Thanks for correcting my English, Professor. Funny that while you neglect to point out those words, you insist upon my giving you names that should already be apparent. You brought a genuine smile to my face. Always entertaining witnessing a Dunning Kruger effect exhibition.
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