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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 15 2020 13:54 GMT
#361
On July 15 2020 22:49 pvsnp wrote:
Special somehow manages to keep getting advantages and then throwing them away.

He looked so good during many stages of the game, but he lost track of parts of his army multiple times, I guess he got outmultitasked in the end.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 15 2020 13:54 GMT
#362
On July 15 2020 22:53 sneakyfox wrote:
And with this win, TY now has a whopping 70% map winrate in TvT, obviously the greatest all time in GSL Code S.

And yet he lost against Maru in the Code S finals. MARU!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33495 Posts
July 15 2020 13:55 GMT
#363
Feeling oddly positive about SpeCial in DH summer finals?
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 13:56:04
July 15 2020 13:55 GMT
#364
In the end it was a good group despite the sloppy start. Or ignoring the games involving scarlett to be accurate.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 14:09:37
July 15 2020 13:59 GMT
#365
Today was what an off day looks like for TY. Nevertheless depending on who he draws in the ro8 I think he should bring a better performance in the next round. TY thrives in longer prep-based series.

For the winner of the group; I might be failing to reocgnize DRG's current impressive form, but I expect him to knocked out in the next round. He will probably be the weakest player in a longer series if you look at the final three groups lineup. All of the players liable to make it out are Code S champions or S tiers players as is. His performance today thrives in part on some of the weaknesses of his opponents as much as it does stellar form on his own part. Even if this seems too pessismistic considering his play today, making it to the quarterfinals of code s is always an indicator of a certain level of play.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 15 2020 14:12 GMT
#366
On July 15 2020 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 22:49 pvsnp wrote:
Special somehow manages to keep getting advantages and then throwing them away.

He looked so good during many stages of the game, but he lost track of parts of his army multiple times, I guess he got outmultitasked in the end.


Special is the king of looking great and then making dumb mistakes. It’s really frustrating to watch when he’s your favorite player haha.

The games vs DRG and Scarlett looked pretty bad. Then he looked overall very good against TY, but it’s TY.

I’d be excited for him in the season finals since his TvT was looking good and half the players are T, but unfortunately the Terran in his group is Maru lol
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
July 15 2020 14:40 GMT
#367
Ultimately I think DRG is the only one who really managed to show his best today. The others only managed to show glimpses of that, especially Scarlett. And the TvT was fun, would have liked more of that.
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chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 15 2020 14:43 GMT
#368
Loved the games from DRG! Especially when he said he is a bit greedy and wants to go to RO4 now... I do hope that he makes it into the finals, although Group B is pretty insane

Sad about Scarlett and Special though at the same time, the games were all pretty good so can't complain about that!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 15 2020 14:46 GMT
#369
On July 15 2020 22:53 Fuell wrote:
25 years of starcraft, foreigners still kind of suck


Wise words, true story.
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 15 2020 14:50 GMT
#370
On July 15 2020 23:46 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 22:53 Fuell wrote:
25 years of starcraft, foreigners still kind of suck


Wise words, true story.


Sometimes I do wonder why though... Hasn't Scarlett and Special been in Korean for a few years now? I believe SC to be a skills-based game (or games), you'd have thought that they would have better showing than that? (or over the years in GSL?)

That being said though, DRG and TY today are more than worthy advancers

(Actually that all being said, you'd wonder how well would someone like Serral do in GSL, don't you? Would love for that to happen )
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 15 2020 15:10 GMT
#371
On July 15 2020 23:50 chuchutrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 23:46 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2020 22:53 Fuell wrote:
25 years of starcraft, foreigners still kind of suck


Wise words, true story.


Sometimes I do wonder why though... Hasn't Scarlett and Special been in Korean for a few years now? I believe SC to be a skills-based game (or games), you'd have thought that they would have better showing than that? (or over the years in GSL?)

That being said though, DRG and TY today are more than worthy advancers

(Actually that all being said, you'd wonder how well would someone like Serral do in GSL, don't you? Would love for that to happen )


You misunderstand me, it was sarcasm; Fuell here just spat out a senseless clichè.
Scarlett and Special went to the ro16 of Code S, that alone is appreciable and shouldn't be regarded as "sucking"; you also have to take into consideration they are far from being the best foreigners.

As for Serral, how would someone with 70% + wr in maps and 82% wr in series against koreans since 2018 perform in Code S in your opinion?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
July 15 2020 15:43 GMT
#372
What an Absolute Chad. DRG gonna make top 4 for sure
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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 15 2020 15:59 GMT
#373
Scanning through DRG vs TY. Did I just watch TY fly an orbital and handful of scvs halfway across the map? I’m sure that’s happened before but I haven’t seen it (at least when it’s your third)
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 16:01:34
July 15 2020 16:01 GMT
#374
On July 16 2020 00:59 TentativePanda wrote:
Scanning through DRG vs TY. Did I just watch TY fly an orbital and handful of scvs halfway across the map? I’m sure that’s happened before but I haven’t seen it (at least when it’s your third)

yeah, the orbital moved a bit further than it needed to, 5 scvs camped right in front of creep
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
July 15 2020 16:23 GMT
#375
On July 16 2020 00:10 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 23:50 chuchutrain wrote:
On July 15 2020 23:46 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2020 22:53 Fuell wrote:
25 years of starcraft, foreigners still kind of suck


Wise words, true story.


Sometimes I do wonder why though... Hasn't Scarlett and Special been in Korean for a few years now? I believe SC to be a skills-based game (or games), you'd have thought that they would have better showing than that? (or over the years in GSL?)

That being said though, DRG and TY today are more than worthy advancers

(Actually that all being said, you'd wonder how well would someone like Serral do in GSL, don't you? Would love for that to happen )


You misunderstand me, it was sarcasm; Fuell here just spat out a senseless clichè.
Scarlett and Special went to the ro16 of Code S, that alone is appreciable and shouldn't be regarded as "sucking"; you also have to take into consideration they are far from being the best foreigners.

As for Serral, how would someone with 70% + wr in maps and 82% wr in series against koreans since 2018 perform in Code S in your opinion?


Well, that's hard to judge. I think a GSL is - purely from the format - a dfferent story than most other tournaments. Today, Scarlett didn't play very well unfortunately. DRG on the other side was impressively strong. I wonder how far he can get this tournament.
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
July 15 2020 16:52 GMT
#376

As for Serral, how would someone with 70% + wr in maps and 82% wr in series against koreans since 2018 perform in Code S in your opinion?


Can you do that in alligulac?

Would be a cool feature. Create a virtual tournament. You could take the runner up from last GSL, find out all the opponents he played, match serral against all the same opponents, and then see the overall chance of him getting through to the final, and of course winning that final match :D.

Would be interesting.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 17:01:20
July 15 2020 17:00 GMT
#377
On July 16 2020 00:10 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 23:50 chuchutrain wrote:
On July 15 2020 23:46 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2020 22:53 Fuell wrote:
25 years of starcraft, foreigners still kind of suck


Wise words, true story.


Sometimes I do wonder why though... Hasn't Scarlett and Special been in Korean for a few years now? I believe SC to be a skills-based game (or games), you'd have thought that they would have better showing than that? (or over the years in GSL?)

That being said though, DRG and TY today are more than worthy advancers

(Actually that all being said, you'd wonder how well would someone like Serral do in GSL, don't you? Would love for that to happen )


You misunderstand me, it was sarcasm; Fuell here just spat out a senseless clichè.
Scarlett and Special went to the ro16 of Code S, that alone is appreciable and shouldn't be regarded as "sucking"; you also have to take into consideration they are far from being the best foreigners.

As for Serral, how would someone with 70% + wr in maps and 82% wr in series against koreans since 2018 perform in Code S in your opinion?

Rogue has 3 world chmapionship titles with much worse stats while Serral has epic 1. Maybe the map stats and match stats are useless in the terms of judging a player. And it's not like Serral didn't participate in them tournaments. Actually Rogue won both Katowice titles while Serral was there The 2nd IEM WC title with SErral having them statsorz!!!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 17:54:50
July 15 2020 17:36 GMT
#378
On July 16 2020 02:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2020 00:10 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2020 23:50 chuchutrain wrote:
On July 15 2020 23:46 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2020 22:53 Fuell wrote:
25 years of starcraft, foreigners still kind of suck


Wise words, true story.


Sometimes I do wonder why though... Hasn't Scarlett and Special been in Korean for a few years now? I believe SC to be a skills-based game (or games), you'd have thought that they would have better showing than that? (or over the years in GSL?)

That being said though, DRG and TY today are more than worthy advancers

(Actually that all being said, you'd wonder how well would someone like Serral do in GSL, don't you? Would love for that to happen )


You misunderstand me, it was sarcasm; Fuell here just spat out a senseless clichè.
Scarlett and Special went to the ro16 of Code S, that alone is appreciable and shouldn't be regarded as "sucking"; you also have to take into consideration they are far from being the best foreigners.

As for Serral, how would someone with 70% + wr in maps and 82% wr in series against koreans since 2018 perform in Code S in your opinion?

Rogue has 3 world chmapionship titles with much worse stats while Serral has epic 1. Maybe the map stats and match stats are useless in the terms of judging a player. And it's not like Serral didn't participate in them tournaments. Actually Rogue won both Katowice titles while Serral was there The 2nd IEM WC title with SErral having them statsorz!!!


First, I'll step down to answer you that none of the perceived GOATs have won a single World Championship.
Of course map and match stats are useful to understand the caliber of a player(it's not like Serral has been a choker and he hasn't won titles, either).

On topic, what was this pointless bait? The point is that foreigners definitely do not suck in 2020 and that Serral would have performed in Code S like the star player he is, without any doubt.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 15 2020 18:54 GMT
#379
Even before TY's 5-2 map record today, he has the highest Code S winrate among active players:

"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
July 15 2020 22:52 GMT
#380
MVP still the goat Ty looked mortal this series, but I expect him to do better next round. Impressive showing from drg.
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