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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
July 19 2020 18:34 GMT
#2701
Serral is the Messi of SC2.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-19 18:34:46
July 19 2020 18:34 GMT
#2702
queue the goat discussion :D
~~~~~
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 19 2020 18:34 GMT
#2703
It was bit more one sided than I predicted
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 19 2020 18:35 GMT
#2704
On July 20 2020 03:33 raff100 wrote:
Terran, Zerg, Protoss, Serral .


i wouldn't say that until he wins a code S tbh lol

Or even if he wins more bigtime weekenders.

He's lost the last blizzcon, the last two IEMs
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 19 2020 18:35 GMT
#2705
On July 20 2020 03:32 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 03:31 Calliope wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:23 Sim999 wrote:
Is the PvZ matchup has ever been good in the history of sc2 ? I mean its about killing some workers and then one push it seems and... that's it, no back and forth, no trading, no nothing, even mirrors matchups are way better now than this...


Can't say that I remember it, but that GSL final Zest vs a zerg (can't remember who it was) from 2014 that they showed a recap of last time on Ro16 looked really epic.

vs soo? that one was pretty bad aswell lol

Zest vs soO in 2014 is an important part of SC2 history though. The final might have been bad on paper but it was still exiting as hell. soO's final curse also started on that Yeonsu game in my book.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
July 19 2020 18:35 GMT
#2706
On July 20 2020 03:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
It was bit more one sided than I predicted

I thought it would be 4-0 so 4-2 exceeded my expectations.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 19 2020 18:36 GMT
#2707
On July 20 2020 03:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
It was bit more one sided than I predicted

Trap had to show his good builds to get to the finals. It's Zest at Katowice all over again.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 19 2020 18:36 GMT
#2708
On July 20 2020 03:34 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is the Messi of SC2.



"Sometimes you win sometimes you lose". Truly foootball words rigth there
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 19 2020 18:37 GMT
#2709
On July 20 2020 03:33 raff100 wrote:
Terran, Zerg, Protoss, Serral .

You realise comments like this are for when one player wins despite their race not winning anything elsewhere right?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
July 19 2020 18:37 GMT
#2710
On July 20 2020 03:36 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 03:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
It was bit more one sided than I predicted

Trap had to show his good builds to get to the finals. It's Zest at Katowice all over again.


he actually won with the one the Zerg already saw, so not quite
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 19 2020 18:38 GMT
#2711

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
July 19 2020 18:38 GMT
#2712
For a premier where 90% of population is inside their house I'm not sure if the viewer count is impressive or not.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 19 2020 18:38 GMT
#2713
On July 20 2020 03:37 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 03:36 Elentos wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
It was bit more one sided than I predicted

Trap had to show his good builds to get to the finals. It's Zest at Katowice all over again.


he actually won with the one the Zerg already saw, so not quite

Yes, the reality is PvZ at the highest level is bullshit. But I think my answer is more diplomatic.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
July 19 2020 18:39 GMT
#2714
On July 20 2020 03:35 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 03:32 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:31 Calliope wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:23 Sim999 wrote:
Is the PvZ matchup has ever been good in the history of sc2 ? I mean its about killing some workers and then one push it seems and... that's it, no back and forth, no trading, no nothing, even mirrors matchups are way better now than this...


Can't say that I remember it, but that GSL final Zest vs a zerg (can't remember who it was) from 2014 that they showed a recap of last time on Ro16 looked really epic.

vs soo? that one was pretty bad aswell lol

Zest vs soO in 2014 is an important part of SC2 history though. The final might have been bad on paper but it was still exiting as hell. soO's final curse also started on that Yeonsu game in my book.


I think ppl forget the best blizzcon final of Life vs sOs was actually filled with bad-to-average games, but it's remembered fondly just because it was a 7-game series.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 19 2020 18:39 GMT
#2715
Do we have statistics about the current PvZ winrates lately?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 19 2020 18:40 GMT
#2716
On July 20 2020 03:39 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 03:35 Fango wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:32 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:31 Calliope wrote:
On July 20 2020 03:23 Sim999 wrote:
Is the PvZ matchup has ever been good in the history of sc2 ? I mean its about killing some workers and then one push it seems and... that's it, no back and forth, no trading, no nothing, even mirrors matchups are way better now than this...


Can't say that I remember it, but that GSL final Zest vs a zerg (can't remember who it was) from 2014 that they showed a recap of last time on Ro16 looked really epic.

vs soo? that one was pretty bad aswell lol

Zest vs soO in 2014 is an important part of SC2 history though. The final might have been bad on paper but it was still exiting as hell. soO's final curse also started on that Yeonsu game in my book.


I think ppl forget the best blizzcon final of Life vs sOs was actually filled with bad-to-average games, but it's remembered fondly just because it was a 7-game series.

It was 6 cheese/all-in games and a novelty tempest build.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
July 19 2020 18:40 GMT
#2717
On July 20 2020 03:39 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Do we have statistics about the current PvZ winrates lately?


The big problem with the win rates is the Adept all in vs low tier zergs.
I'd love to see how Toss is doing versus Z in every other game.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
July 19 2020 18:43 GMT
#2718
Congrats Serral,

he still has it. Beating Inno, TY, Cure and Trap is pretty impressive.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55568 Posts
July 19 2020 18:44 GMT
#2719
I mean even if the winrates are fine because glaives get a lot of wins, as a viewer the state of PvZ is catastrophic enough to warrant action.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
July 19 2020 18:44 GMT
#2720
I feel like LR thread regulars must live for these moments where a caster reveals that they didn't watch a game the LR-shitposter did
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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