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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Poll: TY vs Cure TY Wins (37) Cure Wins (13) 50 total votes Your vote: TY vs Cure Poll: 2020 = ? TY Finally Becomes Best Terran (27) Year Of Cure (15) 42 total votes Your vote: 2020 = ? | ||
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sneakyfox
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catplanetcatplanet
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2020 = year of pet | ||
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
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Cricketer12
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hg2g2
Canada71 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
TY has this. | ||
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lobsterclaw
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XDEKSDEEXD
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floating__bee
Malaysia20 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1685 Posts
This would have been a better finals with Inno | ||
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Aesto
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway. all the TY fanboys are out in force | ||
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yht9657
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Slydie
1916 Posts
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway. Showing off his ability to out-plan his opponent in his 3-0 over Dark and having a full 7-game TvT series to study. Cure will have to dig deeper to win here. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway. I lost all faith in Cure's TvT after seeing his series against INno. Also INno just said in an interview that he thinks TY will win since Cure gets nervous during big series (as seen in the semis against him) and this is the finals. He also mentioned that he helped TY practice for this. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On June 06 2020 16:35 sneakyfox wrote: https://twitter.com/CodeSFacts/status/1269169956551299072 How did I not follow this account yet, thanks for posting! | ||
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jjmmtt
Australia995 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 16:46 Musicus wrote: How did I not follow this account yet, thanks for posting! Yea it's excellent. They seem a bit busy at the moment, sometimes there are longer previews. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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outscar
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GuybrushThreepwood
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4-1 Cure! | ||
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v1p3r52
New Zealand182 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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agsub
Singapore368 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/NmgtRZc.jpg) Prediction: TY goes up 3-0 with 3 well-prepared builts, fail to close the series, cumulating in an insane game 7. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
And it's in the new studio | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
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yht9657
1810 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:06 yht9657 wrote: GSL production still leagues above WCS there's nothing like the pinnacle of korean sc2 | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Elentos
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:07 Elentos wrote: The stylists gave TY the haircut with the worst winrate in GSL LMFAO | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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Zzzapper
1796 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:07 Elentos wrote: The stylists gave TY the haircut with the worst winrate in GSL ok, Wolf | ||
Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:06 Elentos wrote: Suddenly, Afreeca Freecs TY. this shit would be the ultimate conflict of interest if we gave a fuck | ||
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Elentos
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:09 yoshi245 wrote: Just got on, when did TY join Afreeca Freecs? About 2 minutes ago | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway. Well to be fair, until few weeks ago Cure was never ever considered to be Code S - Finalist - Material. And although he fought his way through, I‘d still consider him the „weakest“ Ro8 player this season. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:03 v1p3r52 wrote: the youtube beta auto generated subtitles are so bad its great lol yeah I had them on for a sec and they were pretty terrible | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
i think he's shook | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:10 Musicus wrote: lmao, Cure's tears after the ro4 was because he knew TY was a free win, these guys :D Well I think TY was a bit more genuine when he said Cure is weaker compared to his other finals opponents. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
Bummer, I actually wanted teamless TY to win this GSL just to continue Byun's legacy. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Estraizher
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Elentos
55550 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:13 Elentos wrote: This interview was hilarious I gotta say. Most pre-finals interviews in GSL aren't this fun. they both looked so friendly too imagine if they were just saying respectful things to each other and the translator just spiced it up | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:13 Elentos wrote: This interview was hilarious I gotta say. Most pre-finals interviews in GSL aren't this fun. yeah nice to see them throw some banter, they definitely are better trash talkers than Maru lol | ||
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Elentos
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Andi_Goldberger
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pvsnp
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Estraizher
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:15 Elentos wrote: Granted Cure and TY have known each other for many years and used to be teammates so it's probably a solid amount of friendly banter. when were they teammates? I can't remember what team Cure was on before Jin Air | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:17 starkiller123 wrote: when were they teammates? I can't remember what team Cure was on before Jin Air Team 8 before it became JAGW. TY left for KT around when they got sponsored. | ||
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Elentos
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BerserkSword
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Estraizher
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Ej_
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sneakyfox
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:22 arkedos wrote: Well TvT is the most stable of the mirror matchups, so there could be some great games ahead. [Laughs in ZvZ being static up to 140 supply] | ||
GTR
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:18 Phredxor wrote: Team 8 before it became JAGW. TY left for KT around when they got sponsored. ah yes I remember now | ||
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Ej_
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starkiller123
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Waxangel
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sneakyfox
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On June 06 2020 17:24 Ej_ wrote: Top 3 winrates in Code S are all Terran players? Wow, what a shocker. *active players | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
Set 4 Golden Wall Set 7 Zen | ||
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Zzzapper
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Who's number 1 and 2 of all time? Mvp and Life? | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Really makes you question which inactive player could topple those. NesTea? Mvp? MC? The dealer of fruits himself? | ||
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GTR
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seopthi
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:27 Ej_ wrote: Really makes you question which inactive player could topple those. NesTea? Mvp? MC? The dealer of fruits himself? what was the top 3 ? | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:27 Ej_ wrote: Really makes you question which inactive player could topple those. NesTea? Mvp? MC? The dealer of fruits himself? Sniper | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
TY, INnoVation, Maru | ||
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Ej_
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seopthi
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[PkF] Wire
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sneakyfox
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On June 06 2020 17:26 Zzzapper wrote: Who's number 1 and 2 of all time? Mvp and Life? Yep they're the top dogs | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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Andi_Goldberger
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starkiller123
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
cure is smoked | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:30 [PkF] Wire wrote: did they mention who trey practiced with during the pre-match interviews ? TY with Inno, Cure with Maru | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:30 [PkF] Wire wrote: did they mention who trey practiced with during the pre-match interviews ? Cure said he practiced with Maru, I think TY said INno? | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
thanks, makes sense ! Wonder if TY asked SpeCial for some cheeky builds too. | ||
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Lexender
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:31 [PkF] Wire wrote: thanks, makes sense ! Wonder if TY asked SpeCial for some cheeky builds too. SpeCial practiced with Cure for ro4 I think, so it would be rather unwise to advise TY. | ||
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starkiller123
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[PkF] Wire
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:32 Ej_ wrote: SpeCial practiced with Cure for ro4 I think, so it would be rather unwise to advise TY. oh ok, didn't know that | ||
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sneakyfox
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:33 Ej_ wrote: Is TY just going mass BC attack? looks like it and I don't fancy this at all vs the cyclones. Dunno. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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starkiller123
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:34 starkiller123 wrote: yikes that's a huge scv gap and the guy having the lower scv count isn't exactly the one you'd expect | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:34 starkiller123 wrote: TY has like zero production lol Actually he has 111 production. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + NOT | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
lmao what a map | ||
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Durnuu
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Ej_
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:36 [PkF] Wire wrote: well it kinda looks ok for TY but the supplies tell a different story. What's going on? and yeah TY just won. I was away from this game for far too long haha | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:37 Ej_ wrote: This looked like an LRSL game. such memories | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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sneakyfox
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[PkF] Wire
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Estraizher
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:36 [PkF] Wire wrote: well it kinda looks ok for TY but the supplies tell a different story. What's going on? Well you see, Cure is a budget INnoVation. He is good at making a ltot of units and that's it. BC is the worst designed unit in the entire game btw | ||
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Duckman
United States158 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:38 Ej_ wrote: Well you see, Cure is a budget INnoVation. He is good at making a ltot of units and that's it. BC is the worst designed unit in the entire game btw hmmm and yet Cure is in the finals not INno | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
on a map this big you dont go cyclone, when a couple of tanks can fend of cyclones and bcs teleporting across map | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad same question, please TL bonjwas | ||
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sneakyfox
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:39 starkiller123 wrote: hmmm and yet Cure is in the finals not INno Did you see that series? INnoVation played some awful Starcraft and Cure still almost lost.(including a game where he was 40 supply up and just suicided units until INnnoVation killed him) | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
He left two BC with almost no hp, and let all his units die from splash when he could have just walked up to the tanks | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:39 Inflicted wrote: BCs are just terran nydus swarmhosts This is the best description of that unit I have seen. | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad Army was slightly in favour of TY. the difference was in workers man. | ||
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gophersnake
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Lexender
Mexico2647 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad I think he was just too scared to do anything, letting TY siege and split his army, cyclones are paper when they can't kite. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
as a bio only diamond terran player I have no idea lol | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad obviously not a progamer but cure went wrong comp BC tanks is like classic antiground terran muscle. Comp wise Thors were needed. problem is that they are immobile and bCs are not. Thors break tank lines and can trade with BCs though | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:42 [PkF] Wire wrote: that was Cure's map pick to boot, right ? Yeah it was | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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sneakyfox
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
that's quite strange, it's the kind of map you pick first when you have something prepared on it, and it looked like it was TY who had the prep hahaha they wanted to go proxy at the same time | ||
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starkiller123
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:45 [PkF] Wire wrote: that's quite strange, it's the kind of map you pick first when you have something prepared on it, and it looked like it was TY who had the prep hahaha they wanted to go proxy at the same time Cure did open speed banshees which is very unusual and his followup was extra greedy mech (he had 4 orbitals and 8 factories when TY attacked). It just so happened that TY also had a build there. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:46 Ej_ wrote: Cure did open speed banshees which is very unusual and his followup was extra greedy mech (he had 4 orbitals and 8 factories when TY attacked). It just so happened that TY also had a build there. oh yeah the speed was unusual indeed. Didn't notice he went this greedy because his army supply looked ok. I guess we don't have to dig much deeper to understand why TY's build worked. | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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[PkF] Wire
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
YANG | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
You Tae Yang for saving GSL | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:49 [PkF] Wire wrote: who else is feeling like a bop is on the way ? Cure is choking for sure, locked on to a marine next to the tank lol lost a viking for no reason too | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:49 [PkF] Wire wrote: who else is feeling like a bop is on the way ? TY is the king of getting reverse swept so id take it slow :D | ||
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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sneakyfox
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[PkF] Wire
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On June 06 2020 17:49 Die4Ever wrote: Cure is choking for sure, locked on to a marine next to the tank lol yeah noticed it as well  | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2647 Posts
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Shuffleblade
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yht9657
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
Time to bring out the secret build | ||
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Estraizher
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Now to take it all the way home. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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Durnuu
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2647 Posts
TY went for a gredier opening and still won with an aggressive push. | ||
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:52 Lexender wrote: Funny thing is TY went rax-cc-fact vs Cure rax-rax-cc-fact. TY went for a gredier opening and still won with an aggressive push. You tend to have more units later on if you expand first. | ||
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sneakyfox
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Elentos
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Waxangel
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HeroSandro
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[PkF] Wire
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On June 06 2020 17:53 sneakyfox wrote: Well, when TY played Maru in the finals he also smashed him completely in the first two games. Then there was a break, and when they continued it was a much more even series where Maru eventually took it with the tightest margin. that's a good point, but I don't think Maru and Cure are the same kind of beast, especially with the context. I'd say it's more likely Cure just breaks down, but I definitely hope you're right and we get a series. | ||
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sneakyfox
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Shuffleblade
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:54 HeroSandro wrote: So i guess i missed the second game because the stream just showed me highlights during the game?!?!!?? You can rewind on youtube. | ||
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sneakyfox
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[PkF] Wire
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On June 06 2020 17:55 Shuffleblade wrote: If cure just got the lock on at the tank when it sieged instead of a marine next to it he would have held that. think so too, I guess TY would have had to unsiege and then Cure is at least not doomed | ||
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HeroSandro
530 Posts
Would still be nice to see it live :D | ||
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BaneRiders
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Edpayasugo
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[PkF] Wire
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you're probably all going to make fun of me but I genuinely didn't know that haha having watched the missed lock on again it definitely lost Cure the game | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
Am I out of touch or is this series as terrible as I think so far | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: you're probably all going to make fun of me but I genuinely didn't know that haha having watched the missed lock on again it definitely lost Cure the game Well he would have been behind no matter what, it just accelerated the process greatly. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 17:57 munch wrote: Maybe this was a mistake picking this as the first GSL to watch in a while... Am I out of touch or is this series as terrible as I think so far It's pretty fucking awful as most GSL finals, and especially TvT finals, are. | ||
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arkedos
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[PkF] Wire
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On June 06 2020 17:57 munch wrote: Maybe this was a mistake picking this as the first GSL to watch in a while... Am I out of touch or is this series as terrible as I think so far definitely not the greatest so far, then again those were just two games in the series and we still could get some good SC2 | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
dude just rewind and catch up during breaks | ||
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starkiller123
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:59 Estraizher wrote: Hoped the 40th GSL won't ends with a 4-0 It would be the most fitting result to be fair. | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo Cure and losing | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:59 Elentos wrote: It would be the most fitting result to be fair. so next season will end with 4-1? | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:56 Ej_ wrote: Only GSL would take those as far removed from serious as possible cheerfuls and put them in a sepia montage to tearful music. You didn't recognize the music?  | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo They're - at this point rightfully - worried the broadcast is gonna end in 2 games. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo It's just Cure desperately trying to get advice from his team mates but they're all like "dude we don't know, we got rekt too" | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
ouch really surprised not to see DieuCure around in this grand occasion, that's probably why his mentee isn't doing so hot right now | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
can't wait to see what happens on the 44th and 45th soO in season 3 finals ? | ||
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Elentos
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
also the "buy delta" with TY on it LOL | ||
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 18:01 [PkF] Wire wrote: ouch really surprised not to see DieuCure around in this grand occasion, that's probably why his mentee isn't doing so hot right now DieuCure comes only after Cure happens to win a series. | ||
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I was surprised to check in and see that apparently Cure was good now; lovely to see some things never change On June 06 2020 18:01 Elentos wrote: They're - at this point rightfully - worried the broadcast is gonna end in 2 games. 20 minutes? | ||
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GAMER MOMENT | ||
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On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo Oh hey dude this is a pleasant surprise I would argue "Terrans and complaining" has them beat in that respect | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:03 Zetter wrote: Absolutely digging that 40 year poster. Teethless and Oldtosis. teethless hahaaaa thats fuckin good | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:04 Zealously wrote: Oh hey dude this is a pleasant surprise I would argue "Terrans and complaining" has them beat in that respect Hello boss, been a while | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:03 Zetter wrote: Absolutely digging that 40 year poster. Teethless and Oldtosis. Teethless and Oldtosis hahaha, wp | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:05 sneakyfox wrote: Man I would have loved to see this huge studio packed with people for this match hopefully we get to see it this year but idk | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:06 starkiller123 wrote: hopefully we get to see it this year but idk maybe season 2. gsl season 1 2010 technically was in like, september, so that would be the "proper" anniversary | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:06 starkiller123 wrote: hopefully we get to see it this year but idk The recent reimposition of restrictions in Seoul are not cause for optimisim unfortunately | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:03 Zetter wrote: Absolutely digging that 40 year poster. Teethless and Oldtosis. Lol nice. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:08 Ej_ wrote: Wow I can't believe Tasteless remembers what a Maka rax is. Maka the most influential player ever woa a Maka factory lol | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:08 Ej_ wrote: Wow I can't believe Tasteless remembers what a Maka rax is. hes been saying that every time this happens :D | ||
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Best wishes to TY and GSL Oh, GSL 10th anniversary ~o(〃'▽'〃)o | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:09 Andi_Goldberger wrote: hes been saying that every time this happens :D Surely it's not like Tasteless to repeatedly bring up the same anecdotes year on year, is it? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:10 munch wrote: Surely it's not like Tasteless to repeatedly bring up the same anecdotes year on year, is it? I cant wait for him to explain how golden wall is "basically split into two parts" :D | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:09 sneakyfox wrote: Shame for TY that Cure didn't scout this game you called it | ||
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First series of SC2 you're watching recently? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:11 [PkF] Wire wrote: if you throw a reaper grenade on a mine, do you force it to unburrow ? no | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:11 [PkF] Wire wrote: if you throw a reaper grenade on a mine, do you force it to unburrow ? No you just do damage to it. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:11 Andi_Goldberger wrote: I cant wait for him to explain how golden wall is "basically split into two parts" :D lol remember when he talked about the little path on New Gettysburg for several months every game? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:12 starkiller123 wrote: lol remember when he talked about the little path on New Gettysburg for several months every game? I vividly remember The Tasteless Secret Corridor on Xel'naga Caverns. Tasteless digs tunnels. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:11 Zealously wrote: First series of SC2 you're watching recently? Only watched scattered games here and there since I stopped in 2017—caught some Blizzcon / HSC and some bits of TSL so as I'm awake thought I might as well tune in | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:14 starkiller123 wrote: I want my normal TvT bio games You need a time machine | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:14 fastr wrote: Ah yes, the ketroc build is this a well known thing ? | ||
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now cure doint it to ty lol | ||
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we got some decent ones in the ro16 this GSL | ||
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give me hots back pls | ||
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There's a popular-ish streamer who's mid master and goess mass planetary mas raven every game and plays 50min games. Ketroc has been doing that since at least late HotS. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:17 Zealously wrote: I feel like this game is a typical demonstration of the fact that a player can look disappointed or angry after a game without that necessarily saying ANYTHING about their ability to win or lose the next game. Cure could win or lose this game, but it seems pretty obvious he's far from as shaken as our dear casters would have it lol What even is nuance in esports though? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:14 munch wrote: Only watched scattered games here and there since I stopped in 2017—caught some Blizzcon / HSC and some bits of TSL so as I'm awake thought I might as well tune in Beyond TvT being a clownfest periodically and PvP existing I'm actually really into the way matchups generally have played out recently, lots of good games since I started getting really into it again. Crossing my fingers Cure will save this series for you  | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:16 Ej_ wrote: There's a popular-ish streamer who's mid master and goess mass planetary mas raven every game and plays 50min games. Ketroc has been doing that since at least late HotS. haha ok this game is full of mistakes but quite entertaining | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:19 Ej_ wrote: Ah TY has no medivacs, gg? Typical caster mistake | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:18 Zealously wrote: Beyond TvT being a clownfest periodically and PvP existing I'm actually really into the way matchups generally have played out recently, lots of good games since I started getting really into it again. Crossing my fingers Cure will save this series for you 4/6 ain't bad, might try to watch more. Most of this series has made zero sense to me but that's what you get for being away for 3 years | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:19 Andi_Goldberger wrote: okay this game is pretty sick yeah at last some action on a lot of regions of the board, forcing mistakes from both sides and creating unbalance, this is enjoyable | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:19 Waxangel wrote: seriously, using raven mana on "is it actually worth it?" turret harass has to be the signature move of Cure (and special) It's a mind game designed to make your opponent think you are stupid | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:20 munch wrote: 4/6 ain't bad, might try to watch more. Most of this series has made zero sense to me but that's what you get for being away for 3 years I don't think it has made much sense to anyone so far so don't feel bad | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:23 Ej_ wrote: TY's fights are just so much better lol, this is total outclassing. yeah. Cure made it much closer though, if we get the 4-0 but next game is ok like this one was, this won't be a totally wasted finals, we'll just have to accept how much better TY was | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:23 Nopeudon wrote: How the heck did TY even win that?? special tactics | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:25 pvsnp wrote: Inno died for this.... The less shit player lived that day. | ||
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The ravens was a cool stategy, but its a very shitty strategy if you just throw away your expensive units and build 0 air army to protect your expensive units. | ||
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Considering how much Cure relied on early attacks and simple luck, I think it's safe to say that Inno would have given us a better finals. Who knows though, maybe Cure will show some hitherto unknown mental fortitude and get the reverse sweep. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:27 Zzzapper wrote: Can't wait for the next casters invitational They're probably gonna region lock koreans again | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:27 Durnuu wrote: They're probably gonna region lock koreans again hahaha | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:27 Andi_Goldberger wrote: no sensor tower in main cost cure a lot this game also "cut in half" incoming lets go he had a sensor tower in the main he didn't have a way to back his marines and tanks fast enough and not fly through raven/viking | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:27 Andi_Goldberger wrote: no sensor tower in main cost cure a lot this game also "cut in half" incoming lets go He did have one though. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: is this just a jacket provided by the studio or has TY joined Afreeca Freecs ? He has. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:28 Edpayasugo wrote: Everytime anythings happened TY won yeah at this point it basically looks like every type of game favors TY | ||
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You think this is a joke, but there is a good reason as to why Crank doesn't win those every edition. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:28 Edpayasugo wrote: Everytime anythings happened TY won TY does indeed seem slightly better at doing things | ||
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nice, I definitely missed that piece of news, when did he join ? 06/06 according to liquipedia lol, he wanted to surprise everyone with his new team apparently | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:30 [PkF] Wire wrote: nice, I definitely missed that piece of news, when did he join ? Nobody can tell you when he signed the contract but him coming on stage today in the jersey was the first anyone had heard about it. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:30 [PkF] Wire wrote: nice, I definitely missed that piece of news, when did he join ? At the beginnig of this match | ||
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not before the first drop which kinda blew the game open after TY losing 30 scvs. he made one after that.he had one at the 3rd | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:31 Elentos wrote: Nobody can tell you when he signed the contract but him coming on stage today in the jersey was the first anyone had heard about it. ok I wasn't the only one surprised then, thanks | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? TY vs Maru the Maru vs Zest final was at least really funny | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? 2015 | ||
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Lorning
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On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017? Nestea vs InCa | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017 sometime? Who was in the finals in 2017? Inno vs Soulkey | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:32 Ej_ wrote: TY vs Maru the Maru vs Zest final was at least really funny TY Maru was definitely very good, I still remember it quite well | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017? Dark vs Maru was pretty good, just this year? Or do you mean Code S? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:32 [PkF] Wire wrote: TY Maru was definitely very good, I still remember it quite well Wasn't that the one where Maru proxied literally every game? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:33 Zealously wrote: Dark vs Maru was pretty good, just this year? Or do you mean Code S? Dark vs Maru was extremely good I think, but I think he meant code S yeah | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Dark vs Maru was extremely good I think, but I think he meant code S yeah Yeah, I was just thinking of Code S. The place where both players have plenty of time to bring their absolute best strategies. And yet it seems to produce some really bad games with alarming frequency. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017 sometime? Who was in the finals in 2017? Inno vs SoS wasgreat imo. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:35 Musicus wrote: Please take a map Cure! no | ||
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This final is honestly more one-sided than when Maru 4-0d Zest in like an hour. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:36 Ej_ wrote: Cure finds siege tanks in the wild and still loses the fight. This final is honestly more one-sided than when Maru 4-0d Zest in like an hour. Well this finals isn't going much more than an hour either tbf | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:35 v1p3r52 wrote: would of liked to see ty win with a cheese for lolz "would of" they do that in NZ too? ugh.. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:36 Ej_ wrote: Cure finds siege tanks in the wild and still loses the fight. This final is honestly more one-sided than when Maru 4-0d Zest in like an hour. Well, Cure has managed to last about 2 hours. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:33 pvsnp wrote: Wasn't that the one where Maru proxied literally every game? I think he didn't proxy in one of the games but he definitely mostly proxied. Some games turned into very good macro games if I recall correctly though | ||
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This includes a 20 minute break after production had realized what would happen today. | ||
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:D | ||
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Meanwhile TY's marines are literally shooting a sensor tower. | ||
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There is a chance. | ||
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Congrats ! | ||
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4-0 really | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:45 munch wrote: hahaha he has no idea how to celebrate I mean do you even do the trophy kiss without an audience? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:45 arkedos wrote: well the last 2 games were actually quite good and entertaining, but gosh am I happy when Golden Wall is gone. That map is so terrible. yeah I'm not too disappointed with the series after all. The two last games were action packed and TY was much better. Feels like Cure is still learning and could get to other finals in the future. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:45 yoshi245 wrote: GOAT of caster-players? Probably. I mean a certain dutch guy beat Neeb in an online cup, so not sure about that one | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:45 Estraizher wrote: In the end, 4-0 is inevitable in the 40th GSL can't wait for an eternal cycle of draws in the 44th but yeah very fitting (and don't forget my prediction : 4-2 and soO in the finals for the 42th ^^) | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals? No. 2 at worst | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:46 Die4Ever wrote: one of the worst GSL finals ever we had much worst than that I think. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals? There's been way worse ones. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals? better than NesTea vs Inca? at least that series was funny | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:46 Zealously wrote: I mean do you even do the trophy kiss without an audience? Considering current sutuation, would you kiss something that just passed a few hands? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:48 Penev wrote: Next Katowice is gonna be TY - Rotti hahahahahahahahaha Can't wait for Rotti to smash Serral in the next masters. | ||
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Of the top my head, Nestea/Inca, Sniper/Hyun, Mvp/TOP? | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:49 fastr wrote: Of the top my head, Nestea/Inca, Sniper/Hyun, Mvp/TOP? Sniper/Hyun was much better than this | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals? Eh, not really all that high. | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:49 fastr wrote: Of the top my head, Nestea/Inca, Sniper/Hyun, Mvp/TOP? You forgot arguably the worst of all time. MC vs Seed | ||
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On June 06 2020 18:49 Estraizher wrote: Cure is playing like little Timmy's first final it's okay I think, first finals vs a much better opponent, that wasn't good yeah but I think Cure will remain a contender for some time, this run didn't look like a fluke to me | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
No effing way. Nothing can be more disgusting than the pinnacle of the gglord/winfester era. | ||
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Garnet
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:49 fastr wrote: Of the top my head, Nestea/Inca, Sniper/Hyun, Mvp/TOP? ByuN-sOs, Rogue-Trap, Nestea-Losira and I'm sure quite a few more. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:50 Vindicare605 wrote: You forgot arguably the worst of all time. MC vs Seed yea MC vs Seed is probably the worst ever | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:49 fastr wrote: Of the top my head, Nestea/Inca, Sniper/Hyun, Mvp/TOP? Mvp TOP had sick games, daybreak anyone? I would say TY was just clean as hell so its not that terrible | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Sniper vs HyuN was a really good final and RorO vs Symbol was also really cool actually. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
I quite enjoyed Sniper/Hyun, I wouldn't put it on a worst list | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
Yeah I'd defo take Sniper - Hyun over this Mvp TOP at least had the nukes | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
at least we had someone to hate | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:50 Vindicare605 wrote: You forgot arguably the worst of all time. MC vs Seed MC vs Seed was God awful yeah I mean some recent finals (both ZvTraps and Maru speedruns) were absolutely terrible too I wouldn't say this is even a tier 4 finals, more like a low tier 3 one | ||
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LemonyTang
United Kingdom428 Posts
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Penev
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals? Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:51 Die4Ever wrote: I quite enjoyed Sniper/Hyun, I wouldn't put it on a worst list Sniper Hyun was really good you mean. And I agree RorO vs Symbol was damn good ! | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:53 Zealously wrote: Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe? agree | ||
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fastr
France901 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Zest crushed TY 3-0. Zest is Best! | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far. Not even close. Rogue-Trap and ByuN-sOs were so bad. Maru-Zest was really bad as well. | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: it's okay I think, first finals vs a much better opponent, that wasn't good yeah but I think Cure will remain a contender for some time, this run didn't look like a fluke to me Yeah, too be fair when he beat Inno it's more like Inno playing sloppy not Cure dominating him and questions about will TY bop him instantly popping up after that. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:51 Kaizor wrote: No effing way. Nothing can be more disgusting than the pinnacle of the gglord/winfester era. Sniper/Hyun had some pretty solid zergling knife fights that are always exciting to watch, even if ZvZ at the time was pretty meh generally. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:53 Zealously wrote: Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe? Yeah, I agree with that, biased as I am. | ||
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Ej_
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On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far. I mean it's competing with sOs vs ByuN, Trap vs Dark/Rogue and the hilarious, but still ridiculously one-sided Maru vs Zest | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:53 Zealously wrote: Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe? the problem is putting the close games at the end of the sweep instead of the beginning, it already feels hopeless for Cure at least Mvp vs TOP had a close first game so it felt a little more tense | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:53 RKC wrote: What's even more frustrating is Cure denying us a TY-Inno final only to get roll over by TY like a deer caught in headlights... Zest crushed TY 3-0. Zest is Best! Prince crushed Zest 2-0. Prince is Best! | ||
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Poopi
France12875 Posts
I guess he deserves it after these two lost finals | ||
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outscar
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote: The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease. Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals. | ||
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Zzzapper
1796 Posts
He needs a better catchphrase for his royal road. Prince wins! | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:55 Cush wrote: Huh, anyone know why they would use dollars and not won? My guess that it's paid directly by Blizzard so they might as well not convert the currency. | ||
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Elentos
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On June 06 2020 18:56 outscar wrote: Prize pool for 1st place shrunk... ouch. To give out more money to the players who finish lower. A good trade imo. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:56 Zzzapper wrote: He needs a better catchphrase for his royal road. Prince wins! "Prince wins"? | ||
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fastr
France901 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:55 Ej_ wrote: I mean it's competing with sOs vs ByuN, Trap vs Dark/Rogue and the hilarious, but still ridiculously one-sided Maru vs Zest I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one. Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one. | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far. I think that you can't judge the WoL games with 2020 hindsight; you have to look at them with the meta and general level of play at the time in mind. I have much higher expectations watching GSL S1 2020 than rewatching some 2011 match. Also, WoL gave us Leenock-jjakji, which is still the best GSL Finals that I've seen | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:57 fastr wrote: I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one. Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one. ByuN-sOs had no redeeming or even halfway decent games so it doesn't help it had an extra game. | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:56 outscar wrote: Prize pool for 1st place shrunk... ouch. Could always makes up the difference by going back to casting and getting that casting paycheck | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:56 Zealously wrote: Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals. Strong MKP - sOs Hot6ix energy | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 18:57 fastr wrote: I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one. Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one. ByuN - sOs was extremely one-sided and TvP was already terrible, but I wouldn't say it was a terrible series either yeah both finals lost by Trap vZ were boring and horrible, honeslty even the Dark one was sad | ||
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20-Minute-Jackal
United States336 Posts
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Ej_
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Now, the SCV pull into scanning 6 cannons and sending back the SCVs and then changing your mind and pulling your SCVs again and dying on the cannons was amazing. You cannot take that way from me. | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On June 06 2020 19:01 Ej_ wrote: Now, the SCV pull into scanning 6 cannons and sending back the SCVs and then changing your mind and pulling your SCVs again and dying on the cannons was amazing. You cannot take that way from me. Hey, I was commenting on the quality of the player, not on whether or not it was hilarious | ||
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fastr
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On June 06 2020 18:58 munch wrote: I think that you can't judge the WoL games with 2020 hindsight; you have to look at them with the meta and general level of play at the time in mind. I have much higher expectations watching GSL S1 2020 than rewatching some 2011 match. Also, WoL gave us Leenock-jjakji, which is still the best GSL Finals that I've seen Sure it's easy to shit on WoL games with the benefit of a decade of hindsight, but I remember that even at that time, gsl finals being terrible was literally a meme because of how bad and noncompetitive the games were compared to everything else. I agree with Leenock-jjakji being an incredible finals though. | ||
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Elentos
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On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote: A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc. Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes. | ||
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sneakyfox
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On June 06 2020 19:06 Elentos wrote: Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes. Cure definitely didn't look good this series, but that also makes it three in a row where we're saying that TY's opponent looked bad. It's also because TY makes them look bad, and because his preparation gives him leads which force opponents to do high risk moves. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 19:09 sneakyfox wrote: Cure definitely didn't look good this series, but that also makes it three in a row where we're saying that TY's opponent looked bad. It's also because TY makes them look bad, and because his preparation gives him leads which force opponents to do high risk moves. I think very high preparation time definitely tends to generate bad series. High preparation builds usually don't normally produce great games due to their extreme nature, they generally stomp or get stomped. This is not very different from the reason why teamkills are very often terrible and gimmicky. So in the end it's not that surprising if good GSL finals are more the exception than the norm. | ||
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On June 06 2020 19:20 Elentos wrote: I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals. That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo. btw no one can find that GSL finals power rank ? gotcha ! https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/438145-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-1-23-8 https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/439780-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-2-7-1 | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
maybe the next challenge is to cast at the same time he plays? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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On June 06 2020 19:33 shadymmj wrote: is this it for TY? retire to cast? he's definitely the smartest terran around. maybe the next challenge is to cast at the same time he plays? yeah casually streaming and commentating his play while winning the finals. That would be golden ^^ | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 06 2020 19:24 [PkF] Wire wrote: That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo. btw no one can find that GSL finals power rank ? gotcha ! https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/438145-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-1-23-8 https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/439780-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-2-7-1 It's over 6 years old already at this point, needs an update | ||
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On June 06 2020 19:37 Elentos wrote: It's over 6 years old already at this point, needs an update yeah I thought it was more recent than that. It would indeed be interesting to update it ! | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On June 06 2020 19:41 Andi_Goldberger wrote: god Mvp vs squirtle was so good. such an awesome memory. I need to rewatch soulket vs inno aswell. for how shitty most finals were - including this one- those two alone put up an argument for never missing one. cant wait for season 2! haha I was rewatching Mvp Squirtle g7 myself. Even more incredible for me since I picked up the game a bit more seriously during that season and I remember my sheer amazement and excitement when watching that finals live, no wonder I sticked with the game for quite some time | ||
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chuchutrain
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congrats to TY, showing some fun TvT but other than the first map where it was a bit different, the last 3 weren't that great...But then again, slightly boring GSL finals had always been the norm rather the exception heh... can't wait for the next season! | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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DSK
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
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United States800 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Congratz to TY, he deserved a GSL trophy Edit: Watching the VOD, IDK if it's because I haven't have a life event in so long, but the GSL intro is giving me nerdchills, an 90K on the youtube page seems pretty good. | ||
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Singapore1949 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19237 Posts
On June 07 2020 01:11 Clazziquai10 wrote: There was Polt 4:0 MMA as well for all you oldies How about JulyZerg vs MC? That was a smashing with crazy forcefield strategies. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
TY dismantling world-class players with tight preparation is a beautiful thing to watch. As usual, ro8 and ro4 were more exciting than the finals, but that's just how it is. (If you want a really terrible finals you could watch MC vs Seed.) | ||
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
Game1: Creative BC play by TY Game2: Bad Game3: Amazing! Game4: Decent So, not a fantastic final a reasonable one, probably rank it below average in terms of the other finals, but definitely not in the bottom rungs. | ||
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Spinoza
667 Posts
I enjoyed it. It was like watching SkyHigh at his best in the same match up. [edit] SkyHigh was never as good in the other match ups as TY is but TY's understanding of Terran in a mirror match almost reaches the same level. Extraordinary. | ||
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SeigeTankEmAll
8 Posts
11-2 from Ro. 8 on on top tier opponents from each race. 3-0 Dark 4-2 Parting 4-0 Cure | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3095 Posts
3-0 Dark 4-2 Parting 4-0 Cure Well deserved GSL title. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On June 06 2020 19:02 Elentos wrote: So in hindsight B was the group of Death I unironically said as much at the time. Calling a group with only 2 good players a group of death is a joke | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On June 07 2020 11:05 Cricketer12 wrote: I unironically said as much at the time. Calling a group with only 2 good players a group of death is a joke A group of Maru, Innovation, Zest, and Ragnarok is not a group with only 2 good players lol. Zest is a top 3 PvTer in the world at worst, and is highest rated PvTer on aligulac. IEM runner up, one of the greatest players of all time, etc, etc. Ragnarok is a top 5 korean zerg... | ||
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bela.mervado
Hungary388 Posts
On June 07 2020 11:56 BerserkSword wrote: A group of Maru, Innovation, Zest, and Ragnarok is not a group with only 2 good players lol. Zest is a top 3 PvTer in the world at worst, and is highest rated PvTer on aligulac. IEM runner up, one of the greatest players of all time, etc, etc. Ragnarok is a top 5 korean zerg... ( they talk about B not D ) grats TY and grats Cure as well | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
Tastosis definitely made me rewatch G7 MVP v Squirtle, great memories. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On June 07 2020 14:41 bela.mervado wrote: ( they talk about B not D ) grats TY and grats Cure as well Good joke m8 | ||
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