Think TY's journey to the championship this season is lowkey very compelling—but still would prefer to see Cure smack him in the mouth and lift the trophy.
I know it's a Best of 7 Finals and not the same thing, but I feel like some are dismissing Cure against TY in the same way they were going in to the Ro16 before Cure 2-0d.
What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway.
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway.
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway.
Showing off his ability to out-plan his opponent in his 3-0 over Dark and having a full 7-game TvT series to study. Cure will have to dig deeper to win here.
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway.
I lost all faith in Cure's TvT after seeing his series against INno.
Also INno just said in an interview that he thinks TY will win since Cure gets nervous during big series (as seen in the semis against him) and this is the finals. He also mentioned that he helped TY practice for this.
GSL trophy has been missing from TY's collection forever, he should grab it this time! And then try his shot on Blizzcon to win it - if there will be a one this year, maybe online - then he can retire proudly.
On June 06 2020 13:51 Aesto wrote: What did TY do to merit being declared the heavy favorite here? Until a few weeks ago, he was considered to be in a slump this year. And in this meta, no mirror should ever be considered a sure thing anyway.
Well to be fair, until few weeks ago Cure was never ever considered to be Code S - Finalist - Material. And although he fought his way through, I‘d still consider him the „weakest“ Ro8 player this season.
I wonder if Afreeca gave him a separate contract to be a player or they just tossed him a jersey to represent them since he's still a player caster and employed by Afreeca there.
Bummer, I actually wanted teamless TY to win this GSL just to continue Byun's legacy.
On June 06 2020 17:15 Elentos wrote: Granted Cure and TY have known each other for many years and used to be teammates so it's probably a solid amount of friendly banter.
when were they teammates? I can't remember what team Cure was on before Jin Air
On June 06 2020 17:15 Elentos wrote: Granted Cure and TY have known each other for many years and used to be teammates so it's probably a solid amount of friendly banter.
when were they teammates? I can't remember what team Cure was on before Jin Air
Team 8 before it became JAGW. TY left for KT around when they got sponsored.
People laughing at the budget SpeCial jab, but Cure being budget INnoVation who makes a lot of units and that's all of his strengths is so fucking spot on jesus
On June 06 2020 17:15 Elentos wrote: Granted Cure and TY have known each other for many years and used to be teammates so it's probably a solid amount of friendly banter.
when were they teammates? I can't remember what team Cure was on before Jin Air
Team 8 before it became JAGW. TY left for KT around when they got sponsored.
someone actually knowledgeable about TvT, this shouldn't have worked right ? With the new upgrade cyclones should more or less destroy BCs or am I crazy ?
hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad
On June 06 2020 17:36 [PkF] Wire wrote: well it kinda looks ok for TY but the supplies tell a different story. What's going on?
Well you see, Cure is a budget INnoVation. He is good at making a ltot of units and that's it.
BC is the worst designed unit in the entire game btw
hmmm and yet Cure is in the finals not INno
Did you see that series? INnoVation played some awful Starcraft and Cure still almost lost.(including a game where he was 40 supply up and just suicided units until INnnoVation killed him)
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad
Army was slightly in favour of TY. the difference was in workers man.
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad
I think he was just too scared to do anything, letting TY siege and split his army, cyclones are paper when they can't kite.
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed even with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad
same question, please TL bonjwas
as a bio only diamond terran player I have no idea lol
On June 06 2020 17:40 Waxangel wrote: hey some progamers let me know if cyclones are supposed to get fucking destroyed with an army difference like that, or if Cure fucked that up astronomically bad
obviously not a progamer but cure went wrong comp
BC tanks is like classic antiground terran muscle.
Comp wise Thors were needed. problem is that they are immobile and bCs are not. Thors break tank lines and can trade with BCs though
On June 06 2020 17:42 [PkF] Wire wrote: that was Cure's map pick to boot, right ?
Yeah it was
that's quite strange, it's the kind of map you pick first when you have something prepared on it, and it looked like it was TY who had the prep
hahaha they wanted to go proxy at the same time
Cure did open speed banshees which is very unusual and his followup was extra greedy mech (he had 4 orbitals and 8 factories when TY attacked). It just so happened that TY also had a build there.
On June 06 2020 17:42 [PkF] Wire wrote: that was Cure's map pick to boot, right ?
Yeah it was
that's quite strange, it's the kind of map you pick first when you have something prepared on it, and it looked like it was TY who had the prep
hahaha they wanted to go proxy at the same time
Cure did open speed banshees which is very unusual and his followup was extra greedy mech (he had 4 orbitals and 8 factories when TY attacked). It just so happened that TY also had a build there.
oh yeah the speed was unusual indeed. Didn't notice he went this greedy because his army supply looked ok. I guess we don't have to dig much deeper to understand why TY's build worked.
4-5 sieged tanks also just shit on cyclones, he needed to catch some out on the map I think. as soon as he got in that position between nat and 3rd cure was kinda fucked
the timing from TY was interesting but honestly with adequate micro Cure should never have lost to it. Hope he can ease down his nervousness a bit and turn this into a finals because so far both games didn't deliver
Well, when TY played Maru in the finals he also smashed him completely in the first two games. Then there was a break, and when they continued it was a much more even series where Maru eventually took it with the tightest margin.
On June 06 2020 17:53 sneakyfox wrote: Well, when TY played Maru in the finals he also smashed him completely in the first two games. Then there was a break, and when they continued it was a much more even series where Maru eventually took it with the tightest margin.
that's a good point, but I don't think Maru and Cure are the same kind of beast, especially with the context. I'd say it's more likely Cure just breaks down, but I definitely hope you're right and we get a series.
On June 06 2020 17:55 Shuffleblade wrote: If cure just got the lock on at the tank when it sieged instead of a marine next to it he would have held that.
think so too, I guess TY would have had to unsiege and then Cure is at least not doomed
On June 06 2020 17:57 munch wrote: Maybe this was a mistake picking this as the first GSL to watch in a while... Am I out of touch or is this series as terrible as I think so far
It's pretty fucking awful as most GSL finals, and especially TvT finals, are.
On June 06 2020 17:57 munch wrote: Maybe this was a mistake picking this as the first GSL to watch in a while... Am I out of touch or is this series as terrible as I think so far
definitely not the greatest so far, then again those were just two games in the series and we still could get some good SC2
On June 06 2020 17:56 Ej_ wrote: Only GSL would take those as far removed from serious as possible cheerfuls and put them in a sepia montage to tearful music.
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo
Oh hey dude this is a pleasant surprise
I would argue "Terrans and complaining" has them beat in that respect
Hello boss, been a while
First series of SC2 you're watching recently?
Only watched scattered games here and there since I stopped in 2017—caught some Blizzcon / HSC and some bits of TSL so as I'm awake thought I might as well tune in
On June 06 2020 18:14 fastr wrote: Ah yes, the ketroc build
is this a well known thing ?
There's a popular-ish streamer who's mid master and goess mass planetary mas raven every game and plays 50min games. Ketroc has been doing that since at least late HotS.
I feel like this game is a typical demonstration of the fact that a player can look disappointed or angry after a game without that necessarily saying ANYTHING about their ability to win or lose the next game. Cure could win or lose this game, but it seems pretty obvious he's far from as shaken as our dear casters would have it lol
On June 06 2020 18:17 Zealously wrote: I feel like this game is a typical demonstration of the fact that a player can look disappointed or angry after a game without that necessarily saying ANYTHING about their ability to win or lose the next game. Cure could win or lose this game, but it seems pretty obvious he's far from as shaken as our dear casters would have it lol
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo
Oh hey dude this is a pleasant surprise
I would argue "Terrans and complaining" has them beat in that respect
Hello boss, been a while
First series of SC2 you're watching recently?
Only watched scattered games here and there since I stopped in 2017—caught some Blizzcon / HSC and some bits of TSL so as I'm awake thought I might as well tune in
Beyond TvT being a clownfest periodically and PvP existing I'm actually really into the way matchups generally have played out recently, lots of good games since I started getting really into it again. Crossing my fingers Cure will save this series for you
On June 06 2020 18:14 fastr wrote: Ah yes, the ketroc build
is this a well known thing ?
There's a popular-ish streamer who's mid master and goess mass planetary mas raven every game and plays 50min games. Ketroc has been doing that since at least late HotS.
haha ok this game is full of mistakes but quite entertaining
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo
Oh hey dude this is a pleasant surprise
I would argue "Terrans and complaining" has them beat in that respect
Hello boss, been a while
First series of SC2 you're watching recently?
Only watched scattered games here and there since I stopped in 2017—caught some Blizzcon / HSC and some bits of TSL so as I'm awake thought I might as well tune in
Beyond TvT being a clownfest periodically and PvP existing I'm actually really into the way matchups generally have played out recently, lots of good games since I started getting really into it again. Crossing my fingers Cure will save this series for you
4/6 ain't bad, might try to watch more. Most of this series has made zero sense to me but that's what you get for being away for 3 years
On June 06 2020 18:19 Waxangel wrote: seriously, using raven mana on "is it actually worth it?" turret harass has to be the signature move of Cure (and special)
It's a mind game designed to make your opponent think you are stupid
On June 06 2020 17:59 munch wrote: GSL finals and frantically stalling for time, name a more iconic duo
Oh hey dude this is a pleasant surprise
I would argue "Terrans and complaining" has them beat in that respect
Hello boss, been a while
First series of SC2 you're watching recently?
Only watched scattered games here and there since I stopped in 2017—caught some Blizzcon / HSC and some bits of TSL so as I'm awake thought I might as well tune in
Beyond TvT being a clownfest periodically and PvP existing I'm actually really into the way matchups generally have played out recently, lots of good games since I started getting really into it again. Crossing my fingers Cure will save this series for you
4/6 ain't bad, might try to watch more. Most of this series has made zero sense to me but that's what you get for being away for 3 years
I don't think it has made much sense to anyone so far so don't feel bad
On June 06 2020 18:23 Ej_ wrote: TY's fights are just so much better lol, this is total outclassing.
yeah. Cure made it much closer though, if we get the 4-0 but next game is ok like this one was, this won't be a totally wasted finals, we'll just have to accept how much better TY was
Cure seems really bad at reading TYs army movements, he is also really bad at sending out marines to scout. He was keeping 0 check on doomdrops, he deserved to lose.
The ravens was a cool stategy, but its a very shitty strategy if you just throw away your expensive units and build 0 air army to protect your expensive units.
I think TY has proxied or tried to proxy on all his map picks in the playoffs. Cure has successfully blocked it by trying to do his own proxies at least.
On June 06 2020 18:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: is this just a jacket provided by the studio or has TY joined Afreeca Freecs ?
He has.
nice, I definitely missed that piece of news, when did he join ? 06/06 according to liquipedia lol, he wanted to surprise everyone with his new team apparently
When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017 sometime? Who was in the finals in 2017?
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017?
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017 sometime? Who was in the finals in 2017?
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017?
Dark vs Maru was pretty good, just this year? Or do you mean Code S?
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017?
Dark vs Maru was pretty good, just this year? Or do you mean Code S?
Dark vs Maru was extremely good I think, but I think he meant code S yeah
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017?
Dark vs Maru was pretty good, just this year? Or do you mean Code S?
Dark vs Maru was extremely good I think, but I think he meant code S yeah
Yeah, I was just thinking of Code S. The place where both players have plenty of time to bring their absolute best strategies. And yet it seems to produce some really bad games with alarming frequency.
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals? Before this there was BL/Infestor, before that was Maru proxying like a madman, so I guess.....2017 sometime? Who was in the finals in 2017?
On June 06 2020 18:31 pvsnp wrote: When was the last time we had a good GSL finals?
TY vs Maru
the Maru vs Zest final was at least really funny
TY Maru was definitely very good, I still remember it quite well
Wasn't that the one where Maru proxied literally every game?
I think he didn't proxy in one of the games but he definitely mostly proxied. Some games turned into very good macro games if I recall correctly though
I love the liberal use of "sniped" in the context of destroying things. I'm pretty sure the military nomenclature for four tanks and fifty soldiers destroying a large building isn't "snipe"
On June 06 2020 18:45 arkedos wrote: well the last 2 games were actually quite good and entertaining, but gosh am I happy when Golden Wall is gone. That map is so terrible.
yeah I'm not too disappointed with the series after all. The two last games were action packed and TY was much better. Feels like Cure is still learning and could get to other finals in the future.
On June 06 2020 18:49 Estraizher wrote: Cure is playing like little Timmy's first final
it's okay I think, first finals vs a much better opponent, that wasn't good yeah but I think Cure will remain a contender for some time, this run didn't look like a fluke to me
On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals?
Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe?
On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals?
Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe?
On June 06 2020 18:49 Estraizher wrote: Cure is playing like little Timmy's first final
it's okay I think, first finals vs a much better opponent, that wasn't good yeah but I think Cure will remain a contender for some time, this run didn't look like a fluke to me
Yeah, too be fair when he beat Inno it's more like Inno playing sloppy not Cure dominating him and questions about will TY bop him instantly popping up after that.
On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals?
Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe?
On June 06 2020 18:47 munch wrote: So where does that rank in terms of worst GSL finals?
Probably not even top 5? This had two pretty redeeming games in 3 and 4 and didn't feel completely one-sided despite the end results. It wasn't great, but lower end of mediocre maybe?
the problem is putting the close games at the end of the sweep instead of the beginning, it already feels hopeless for Cure at least Mvp vs TOP had a close first game so it felt a little more tense
On June 06 2020 18:53 RKC wrote: What's even more frustrating is Cure denying us a TY-Inno final only to get roll over by TY like a deer caught in headlights...
there was a gsl finals ranking on liquipedia once and I remember I mostly agreed with it. I'm positive this finals wouldn't end up really low in this ranking, like definitely not high, but definitely not terribly low either
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote: The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.
Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.
On June 06 2020 18:53 RKC wrote: What's even more frustrating is Cure denying us a TY-Inno final only to get roll over by TY like a deer caught in headlights...
Zest crushed TY 3-0. Zest is Best!
Prince crushed Zest 2-0. Prince is Best!
He needs a better catchphrase for his royal road. Prince wins!
On June 06 2020 18:53 RKC wrote: What's even more frustrating is Cure denying us a TY-Inno final only to get roll over by TY like a deer caught in headlights...
Zest crushed TY 3-0. Zest is Best!
Prince crushed Zest 2-0. Prince is Best!
He needs a better catchphrase for his royal road. Prince wins!
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.
I mean it's competing with sOs vs ByuN, Trap vs Dark/Rogue and the hilarious, but still ridiculously one-sided Maru vs Zest
I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one. Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one.
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.
I think that you can't judge the WoL games with 2020 hindsight; you have to look at them with the meta and general level of play at the time in mind. I have much higher expectations watching GSL S1 2020 than rewatching some 2011 match.
Also, WoL gave us Leenock-jjakji, which is still the best GSL Finals that I've seen
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.
I mean it's competing with sOs vs ByuN, Trap vs Dark/Rogue and the hilarious, but still ridiculously one-sided Maru vs Zest
I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one. Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one.
ByuN-sOs had no redeeming or even halfway decent games so it doesn't help it had an extra game.
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote: The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.
Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.
I mean it's competing with sOs vs ByuN, Trap vs Dark/Rogue and the hilarious, but still ridiculously one-sided Maru vs Zest
I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one. Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one.
ByuN - sOs was extremely one-sided and TvP was already terrible, but I wouldn't say it was a terrible series either yeah both finals lost by Trap vZ were boring and horrible, honeslty even the Dark one was sad
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote: The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.
Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.
Strong MKP - sOs Hot6ix energy
Now, the SCV pull into scanning 6 cannons and sending back the SCVs and then changing your mind and pulling your SCVs again and dying on the cannons was amazing. You cannot take that way from me.
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote: The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.
Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.
Strong MKP - sOs Hot6ix energy
Now, the SCV pull into scanning 6 cannons and sending back the SCVs and then changing your mind and pulling your SCVs again and dying on the cannons was amazing. You cannot take that way from me.
Hey, I was commenting on the quality of the player, not on whether or not it was hilarious
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote: I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.
I think that you can't judge the WoL games with 2020 hindsight; you have to look at them with the meta and general level of play at the time in mind. I have much higher expectations watching GSL S1 2020 than rewatching some 2011 match.
Also, WoL gave us Leenock-jjakji, which is still the best GSL Finals that I've seen
Sure it's easy to shit on WoL games with the benefit of a decade of hindsight, but I remember that even at that time, gsl finals being terrible was literally a meme because of how bad and noncompetitive the games were compared to everything else.
I agree with Leenock-jjakji being an incredible finals though.
On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote: A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.
Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes.
I've been looking for that GSL finals power rank that was done some time ago here on liquipedia and I can't seem to find it. Can anyone help ? This should be relevant here
On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote: A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.
Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes.
Cure definitely didn't look good this series, but that also makes it three in a row where we're saying that TY's opponent looked bad. It's also because TY makes them look bad, and because his preparation gives him leads which force opponents to do high risk moves.
On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote: A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.
Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes.
Cure definitely didn't look good this series, but that also makes it three in a row where we're saying that TY's opponent looked bad. It's also because TY makes them look bad, and because his preparation gives him leads which force opponents to do high risk moves.
I think very high preparation time definitely tends to generate bad series. High preparation builds usually don't normally produce great games due to their extreme nature, they generally stomp or get stomped. This is not very different from the reason why teamkills are very often terrible and gimmicky. So in the end it's not that surprising if good GSL finals are more the exception than the norm.
I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.
On June 06 2020 19:20 Elentos wrote: I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.
That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo.
On June 06 2020 19:33 shadymmj wrote: is this it for TY? retire to cast? he's definitely the smartest terran around. maybe the next challenge is to cast at the same time he plays?
yeah casually streaming and commentating his play while winning the finals. That would be golden ^^
On June 06 2020 19:20 Elentos wrote: I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.
That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo.
On June 06 2020 19:20 Elentos wrote: I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.
That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo.
god Mvp vs squirtle was so good. such an awesome memory. I need to rewatch soulkey vs inno aswell. for how shitty most finals were - including this one- those two alone put up an argument for never missing one. cant wait for season 2!
On June 06 2020 19:41 Andi_Goldberger wrote: god Mvp vs squirtle was so good. such an awesome memory. I need to rewatch soulket vs inno aswell. for how shitty most finals were - including this one- those two alone put up an argument for never missing one. cant wait for season 2!
haha I was rewatching Mvp Squirtle g7 myself. Even more incredible for me since I picked up the game a bit more seriously during that season and I remember my sheer amazement and excitement when watching that finals live, no wonder I sticked with the game for quite some time
The series would be a lot better with a stronger showing from Cure, but why are these finals even debated as being the all time worst? The off-meta strats in G1 and clutch push in G3 should be plenty to save it from that!
wow TY had the stone cold killer look in a good way. He just dispatched Dark, Parting and Cure. I think Parting was the only one who had a chance of beating him in hindsight.
decent finals but Cure was inexperienced congrats to TY, showing some fun TvT but other than the first map where it was a bit different, the last 3 weren't that great...
But then again, slightly boring GSL finals had always been the norm rather the exception heh... can't wait for the next season!
Edit: Watching the VOD, IDK if it's because I haven't have a life event in so long, but the GSL intro is giving me nerdchills, an 90K on the youtube page seems pretty good.
Just watched the finals and I don't understand why there is a discussion that this finals was one of the worst. Sure, it wasn't a great final but it had redeeming features.
Game1: Creative BC play by TY Game2: Bad Game3: Amazing! Game4: Decent
So, not a fantastic final a reasonable one, probably rank it below average in terms of the other finals, but definitely not in the bottom rungs.
Fantastic series by TY. It was truly very like BW TvT.
I enjoyed it. It was like watching SkyHigh at his best in the same match up.
[edit] SkyHigh was never as good in the other match ups as TY is but TY's understanding of Terran in a mirror match almost reaches the same level. Extraordinary.
GG to TY. Despite the hate coming in for the final I think you did a great job. As SeigeTankEmAll said 3-0 Dark 4-2 Parting 4-0 Cure Well deserved GSL title.