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Poll: Dark vs TY Dark Wins (38) TY Wins (22) 60 total votes Your vote: Dark vs TY | ||
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sneakyfox
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DieuCure
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
All 4 players who make it to this round are seeded in next season's Code . Code what? Code A? XD | ||
BisuDagger
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catplanetcatplanet
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On May 13 2020 07:16 catplanetcatplanet wrote: If big boi makes round of 8 i will eat a tater tot If big boi makes ro4 I will order ihop for breakfast | ||
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Zambrah
United States7291 Posts
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seemsgood
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fulfill your destiny ! | ||
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pvsnp
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4906 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
Maru vs Parting has the potential to be a 30 minute long clown fiesta | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On May 20 2020 16:27 BerserkSword wrote: TY vs Dark has the potential to be a 2 hour series full of macro games. Maru vs Parting has the potential to be a 30 minute long clown fiesta TY vs Dark also has the potential to be a 30 minute clown fiesta, which worries me. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
I love Parting, but Bunny is a couple of Tiers below Maru. So that doesn t tell anything about this match. Maru is going to stomp him. | ||
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HolydaKing
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
 (it's not impossible, especially on this side of bracket)edit> actually, if Trap finds his lost mojo, he will beat Inno, Dear can beat Cure. | ||
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darklycid
3460 Posts
On May 20 2020 17:40 deacon.frost wrote: Imagine 4 T in RO8, 0 in RO4 and all the balance whiners in the recent balance update thread wouyld have brain exploded (it's not impossible, especially on this side of bracket)edit> actually, if Trap finds his lost mojo, he will beat Inno, Dear can beat Cure. I mean that's the fun thing with this bracket it could be a 0 terran ro4 but also a 3 terran ro4 could be easily possible :D | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 17:44 darklycid wrote: I mean that's the fun thing with this bracket it could be a 0 terran ro4 but also a 3 terran ro4 could be easily possible :D Currently it should be 2 T in RO4 on paper, Maru & Inno. Dear should advance over Cure and Dark over TY/ My view on the chances is 1 T > 2 T > 0 T > 4 T = 3 T | ||
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darklycid
3460 Posts
On May 20 2020 17:47 deacon.frost wrote: Currently it should be 2 T in RO4 on paper, Maru & Inno. Dear should advance over Cure and Dark over TY/ My view on the chances is 1 T > 2 T > 0 T > 4 T = 3 T I'd say Dear Cure is pretty even as both are kinda incosistent, it's hard to predict and in st Cure won 3:1 so he had the upper hand recently, which is why i'd put 3t not equal to 4t but between 2 and 0t. | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On another hand, it won't prevent terran fans to harass/insult players and whine all the time so, yeah, go Dark,. | ||
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2214 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 17:54 darklycid wrote: I'd say Dear Cure is pretty even as both are kinda incosistent, it's hard to predict and in st Cure won 3:1 so he had the upper hand recently, which is why i'd put 3t not equal to 4t but between 2 and 0t. I'd say Dear should prepare better than Cure. Different views  | ||
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darklycid
3460 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:12 deacon.frost wrote: I'd say Dear should prepare better than Cure. Different views It's still Dear tho, i kinda gave up predicting his results :D | ||
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Gina
241 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:15 darklycid wrote: It's still Dear tho, i kinda gave up predicting his results :D I agree on that, to be fair we should get 3 T 1 Z into RO4 based on the previous results and form. Which makes me think that Trap will play better and maybe even Dear. But yeah, Dear is... Dear | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On May 20 2020 16:34 Elentos wrote: TY vs Dark also has the potential to be a 30 minute clown fiesta, which worries me. pls no | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Poopi
France12796 Posts
Hopefully he manages to qualify I liquibet on TY although he never beats Dark but hey maybe I can hope | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Avatar of Rogue lmao. | ||
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Penev
28475 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:36 pvsnp wrote: No wrist pain for Dark, TY is doomed. which means dude dint pratice whatsoever! a lack of pratices dark is a daed dark ez for my man castuerrr | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:38 Morbidius wrote: Where is Gyuri's mask?! its just a flu bro | ||
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Elentos
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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HeroSandro
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sneakyfox
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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pvsnp
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
E: looks dead though | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:46 dbRic1203 wrote: Let s see, if this is Dark is behind into win or Dark is behind into dead E: looks dead though If Dark wins this game TY can retire on the spot. | ||
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seemsgood
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:48 Zealously wrote: Really tough position for Dark. We're headed for AfreecaTVT Calm down, it's only one map, and BOs were very favorable for TY + unscouted. Plus there is reverse sweep curse if TY wins this map too | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: Calm down, it's only one map, and BOs were very favorable for TY + unscouted. Plus there is reverse sweep curse if TY wins this map too I'm not going to calm down until we're back in 2011 | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:52 Morbidius wrote: I prefer to call Rogue, Dark and Serral the axis of evil. Let's throw in Reynor, simply because he's Italian | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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sneakyfox
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On May 20 2020 18:51 Zealously wrote: I'm not going to calm down until we're back in 2011 I admire your position, good sir | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:51 Zealously wrote: I'm not going to calm down until we're back in 2011 we need 2 moar TvT finals to ever consider that | ||
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Penev
28475 Posts
uh oh.. | ||
TheOneAboveU
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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XDEKSDEEXD
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seemsgood
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On May 20 2020 18:55 deacon.frost wrote: That's a late baneling thingy, isn't it? i wonder does the dmg nerf have effect on hellbat tho | ||
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Penev
28475 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:57 seemsgood wrote: i wonder does the dmg nerf have effect on hellbat tho isn't helbat light? | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:57 Penev wrote: TY is just setting himself up for the reverse sweep guys Am i evil for wanting this more than anything right now? | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
oh... one fucking moment i were an idiot ;] | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Penev
28475 Posts
On May 20 2020 18:58 Morbidius wrote: Am i evil for wanting this more than anything right now? you should at least consider joining the axis probably | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
This is a game of pure Terran beauty | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:00 Penev wrote: you should at least consider joining the axis probably he can be azmodan;oo since serral is baal,dark is diablo and rogue is mephisto already | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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seemsgood
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On May 20 2020 19:08 dbRic1203 wrote: that high ground lurker looks sick we lost temple now ;oo | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
E: or not anymore | ||
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Lorning
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Penev
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seemsgood
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sneakyfox
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dbRic1203
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atrox_
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Elentos
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seemsgood
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2214 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Hands down game of the year | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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pvsnp
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:13 Elentos wrote: Did TY snipe all the swarm hosts off-screen? maybe nuked, there has been some dead drones too | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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Anc13nt
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TheOneAboveU
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dbRic1203
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Penev
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NoS-Craig
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:12 dbRic1203 wrote: Look at the Bank True gamers only look at the souply | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
And Dark somehow held on through all that and basically went through the entire Zerg arsenal too. GOTY | ||
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yht9657
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Nopeudon
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Epic gamer moment | ||
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Schelim
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Zealously
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DBooN
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atrox_
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sneakyfox
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Oh, thought he was going to pool the marines | ||
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dbRic1203
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:15 Zealously wrote: I mean at this point you probably just proxy 3 times, pretty decent chance of hitting one win moar like 2 raxes 3 times ;oo because that build never loses | ||
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Gina
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:17 Gina wrote: I get this feeling that the stream picture (but not the sound!) is 1-2 sec delay. I can t watch with sound anyways atm, so no idea | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:17 Gina wrote: I get this feeling that the stream picture (but not the sound!) is 1-2 sec delay. I'm not having that issue at all | ||
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Anc13nt
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
E: nvm | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Penev
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
Probably still wrist issues, like he said after his GSL Group. Realy sad for him | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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Elentos
55511 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:23 Andi_Goldberger wrote: looks like juanito got a really nice birthday present ^_^ I'm betting he gave TY some extra special advice ahead of today's games, seems to have worked out | ||
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Anc13nt
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:24 Zealously wrote: I'm betting he gave TY some extra special advice ahead of today's games, seems to have worked out They said Rogue  | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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Penev
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TheSneak
Australia118 Posts
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seemsgood
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:21 Penev wrote: Dark did collapse a bit tho, it's not all TY imo Dark not having his best day on top of TY having his. | ||
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darklycid
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Special is the master puppeteer of the Korean scene, any advice TY got from Rogue originally came from Special  | ||
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Mozdk
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atrox_
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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sneakyfox
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yht9657
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Penev
28475 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:26 Elentos wrote: Dark not having his best day on top of TY having his. Yeah, that's a bit unfortunate, oh well | ||
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Elentos
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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XDEKSDEEXD
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
 TY was the Terran who was leasty likely to advance in my eyes, let s see what the other 3 matches hold for us.. | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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Zealously
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sneakyfox
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Andi_Goldberger
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agsub
Singapore368 Posts
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seemsgood
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On May 20 2020 19:27 Pursuit_ wrote: TY is really good at making builds that hit with like 3-4 timings one after another, none of them are super scary on their own but if you mess up in defending even one then it makes defending the next one impossible. Dark didn't even defend the proxy 2 rax's well the problem with the 2 raxes is it never loses ;] | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:27 Zealously wrote: Special is the master puppeteer of the Korean scene, any advice TY got from Rogue originally came from Special Nah. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:27 Zealously wrote: Special is the master puppeteer of the Korean scene, any advice TY got from Rogue originally came from Special Or very much not. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Penev
28475 Posts
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:28 Andi_Goldberger wrote: 4 Terran Ro4 Dream is alive That is not a dream. That is a nightmare. | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Go and grab this Code S, Tae Yang!! | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
everybody wants sc2 to go back to the 2011 glory days, this is the first step towards it :DD | ||
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umelbumel
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:29 pvsnp wrote: They're gonna nerf bunker build time aren't they bunker is just a decoy,but dat 2 raxes tho... it just never loses tastelessss | ||
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Shathe
Hungary422 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:30 Andi_Goldberger wrote: everybody wants sc2 to go back to the 2011 glory days, this is the first step towards it :DD When it's 4 Zerg it's a nightmare, everyone knows 4/4 Terran is how it was originally meant to be. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:29 Morbidius wrote: Terrans saying the balance is good for Terran=Game more imbalanced than WoL, Protoss and Zergs run for the hills. Can you point out the moments where you defended T/P during the zerg heavy years we just had? Just being curious where your standards were then. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
That's why Aligulac is a terrible metric. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:30 umelbumel wrote: Had a Bet on a 3:0 for this game, thinking Dark would crush TY. Still won the bet... in an unexpected way. Any score would be more believable than a 3-0 for TY. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:31 Shathe wrote: TY gained a huge advantage early game in all 3 games with his cheese. Thats how it was done. I hope blizzard doesnt let terran be as op as zerg was. A drone scout and don't rely on ovie? | ||
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:30 Andi_Goldberger wrote: everybody wants sc2 to go back to the 2011 glory days, this is the first step towards it :DD Well we had Broodlord Infestor last year, does that mean that next year we're gonna go back to worker pulls and 1 supply roaches? | ||
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Anc13nt
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ScrappyRabbit
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fastr
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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HolydaKing
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On May 20 2020 19:31 DieuCure wrote: TY lost to Elazer 2-0 yesterday. That's why Aligulac is a terrible metric. Obviously Elazer is the best Zerg now, he won in TSL while all other Zergs seem to be lost atm. | ||
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darklycid
3460 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:31 DieuCure wrote: TY lost to Elazer 2-0 yesterday. That's why Aligulac is a terrible metric. You can make every metric terrible if you want | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:31 DieuCure wrote: TY lost to Elazer 2-0 yesterday. That's why Aligulac is a terrible metric. How should that show that Aligulac is a terrible metric? It might show that online tournaments played right before important offline events are a terrible metric. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:27 Elentos wrote: Also TY is like the only player in GSL who has his own victory theme that plays every time he advances a round. I never noticed that, how interesting | ||
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looken
727 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:31 deacon.frost wrote: Can you point out the moments where you defended T/P during the zerg heavy years we just had? Just being curious where your standards were then. Can you point out how something that was wrong in the past can justify something that is wrong now? | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:32 Anc13nt wrote: wonder why terran suddenly doing better. It looked like a continuation of zerg domination just a few months ago. Is it mainly due to random chance or just the meta has changed a lot? the map pool isnt zerg favored anymore | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:32 Anc13nt wrote: wonder why terran suddenly doing better. It looked like a continuation of zerg domination just a few months ago. Is it mainly due to random chance or just the meta has changed a lot? Well, Rogue and soO were just bad. | ||
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ScrappyRabbit
200 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:31 Xain0n wrote: When it's 4 Zerg it's a nightmare, everyone knows 4/4 Terran is how it was originally meant to be. Is it...wrong that I kinda agree with this because TvT is a lot more fun than ZvZ? I mean, I definitely want the game to be perfectly balanced, but also... /looks around nervously, jumps out of 2nd-floor window | ||
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Penev
28475 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Why do you think people go to Special's "birthday parties"? I'll tell you why: to get a load of the super secret strategies | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:32 Anc13nt wrote: wonder why terran suddenly doing better. It looked like a continuation of zerg domination just a few months ago. Is it mainly due to random chance or just the meta has changed a lot? It never looked like before the last patch, even if Zerg were winning; there are new maps, in any of case. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:34 looken wrote: Can you point out how something that was wrong in the past can justify something that is wrong now? I'm not advocating for that, I am advocating for the fact that many people are not for balance. We had 2 unbalanced years and many were silent while they're just now woken up and have to say - wait, not now. Also if Zergs had their reign, why not terrans for a while. | ||
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darklycid
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:34 ScrappyRabbit wrote: Is it...wrong that I kinda agree with this because TvT is a lot more fun than ZvZ? I mean, I definitely want the game to be perfectly balanced, but also... /looks around nervously, jumps out of 2nd-floor window Let's be real the only true mirror is PvP ;p I take your 5 hour tank lines and raise you a proxy robo. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:33 Xain0n wrote: How should that show that Aligulac is a terrible metric? It might show that online tournaments played right before important offline events are a terrible metric. It favors online tournament heroes, Zest out of the top 10 is just how bad it is. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:33 Xain0n wrote: How should that show that Aligulac is a terrible metric? It might show that online tournaments played right before important offline events are a terrible metric. Just look at Aligulac's '''Top 10'', anyone who believes that accurately represents the best players atm is delusional. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:31 DieuCure wrote: TY lost to Elazer 2-0 yesterday. That's why Aligulac is a terrible metric. Aligulac isn't a "metric" though, right? It's just an aggregate of data. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:32 Anc13nt wrote: wonder why terran suddenly doing better. It looked like a continuation of zerg domination just a few months ago. Is it mainly due to random chance or just the meta has changed a lot? i think in this match up, early game is way way way too important i dont want queen getting nerf for a reason | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:34 ScrappyRabbit wrote: Is it...wrong that I kinda agree with this because TvT is a lot more fun than ZvZ? I mean, I definitely want the game to be perfectly balanced, but also... /looks around nervously, jumps out of 2nd-floor window Macro ZvZ is so much better than TvT if you don't love positional play; don't worry, you are not alone! There are many people who share your point of view. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:35 Zealously wrote: Why do you think people go to Special's "birthday parties"? I'll tell you why: to get a load of the super secret strategies Uh, i rather not say why they do go there XD | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:33 Musicus wrote: Blizzcon champion losing to a caster . hey its TAE "CASTUERR" YANG ! | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:36 Zealously wrote: Aligulac isn't a "metric" though, right? It's just an aggregate of data. Yes, but it does somewhat present itself as a metric (ranking list on front page) and people definitely try to use it as one. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:36 Zealously wrote: Aligulac isn't a "metric" though, right? It's just an aggregate of data. but it is used by many as a metric and many also say that every match values the same. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:38 Pursuit_ wrote: Yes, but it does somewhat present itself as a metric (ranking list on front page) and people definitely try to use it as one. And the lagging/leading race. | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:39 Anc13nt wrote: if aligulac did like a separate offline only elo rating, I think it would be really good but that might take really long time to make.. More sorting / query options would be pretty amazing, yeah. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2020 19:36 DieuCure wrote: It favors online tournament heroes, Zest out of the top 10 is just how bad it is. That's another discussion, and Zest is ALSO an online hero; Aligulac has its flaws but it's generally a very useful tool. In any of case, Dark being favored over TY was perfectly understandable and in no way Aligulac's fault. | ||
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looken
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On May 20 2020 19:35 deacon.frost wrote: I'm not advocating for that, I am advocating for the fact that many people are not for balance. We had 2 unbalanced years and many were silent while they're just now woken up and have to say - wait, not now. Also if Zergs had their reign, why not terrans for a while. We had unbalaned years since the beginning of SC as there will never be perfect balance. However, attacking people that speak up now for not having done so earlier seems silly. | ||
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seemsgood
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its castuerr privilege ;] | ||
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Xain0n
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Go go PartingU! | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:40 Xain0n wrote: That's another discussion, and Zest is ALSO an online hero. Most sucessful and consistent Protoss in SC2 history is now an ''online hero''. | ||
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Why do you insist on that butchered spelling Also in case anyone was wondering, every time TY advances a round they play (variations/remixes of) Blind Channel - Out of Town | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:41 SamirDuran wrote: Any link of first person of players? http://play.afreecatv.com/afgsl3/ http://play.afreecatv.com/afgsl4/ | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:42 Morbidius wrote: Most sucessful and consistent Protoss in SC2 history is now an ''online hero''. Not sure consistent is a word I'd use to describe zest | ||
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stilt
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On May 20 2020 19:35 deacon.frost wrote: I'm not advocating for that, I am advocating for the fact that many people are not for balance. We had 2 unbalanced years and many were silent while they're just now woken up and have to say - wait, not now. Also if Zergs had their reign, why not terrans for a while. You're just contradicting yourself. | ||
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sneakyfox
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According to aligulac, TvZ has been perfectly balanced for the last three months. So yeah we can definitely discuss the upcoming balance patch but today was not about balance. | ||
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DieuCure
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On May 20 2020 19:42 Morbidius wrote: Most sucessful and consistent Protoss in SC2 history is now an ''online hero''. There is also the fact that ping favors EU players over KR so it's easier to get results. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:43 atrox_ wrote: Not sure consistent is a word I'd use to describe zest He's consistent like Innovation is consistent, sure he has embarassing moments and big slumps, but its someone we know can bounce back to the top at any time. | ||
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deacon.frost
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On May 20 2020 19:41 looken wrote: We had unbalaned years since the beginning of SC as there will never be perfect balance. However, attacking people that speak up now for not having done so earlier seems silly. well, it's not. In my view they were fine with zergs being strong while other races were not. Now the card flips and they're in uproar. It;s hypocritical imo nad I don't like it./ Also if 2019 tought us something, iot's that heavy racial inbalance in 1 tourney isn't a reason to change balance - e.g. ST1 with so many protosses. | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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I wanna cheer for parting because hes the big boy obviously but I want 4 Terrans in the RO4 for the meme (and the dumb reddit posts). such a dilemma | ||
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Pursuit_
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Yeah his argument is stupid. Goal should be to keep the game relatively balanced, not to give each race their time to shine. There have been issues in PvZ consistently for awhile now, it needs to be fixed. Terran has been looking strong since the map changes, worth keeping an eye on but since it's relatively recent and there's no dominant strategy that seems game breaking I think it's better to not have a huge knee jerk reaction right now, but definitely keep watching it. | ||
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Anc13nt
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On May 20 2020 19:42 Morbidius wrote: Most sucessful and consistent Protoss in SC2 history is now an ''online hero''. I think it's fair to say since Zest plays a lot of online these days. I do think Aligulac favours online heroes in general but there are always exceptions to any rule. For example, INnoVation and Cure probably have been ranked higher than their true rank for multiple months (although now, I do think their aligulac rank closely corresponds to actual rank). There were also times where Showtime, Uthermal and Solar had very high elo but it did not really materialize into great results. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:46 Andi_Goldberger wrote: the 71%WR vs toss, good luck parting Maru won most of his GSLs on the back of Protoss butchering. Maru got 1st map pick because he finished 2nd in his group. As if he needed the advantage | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:48 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: will we see at least one maxpax? would be disappointing if not | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:48 Pursuit_ wrote: Yeah his argument is stupid. Goal should be to keep the game relatively balanced, not to give each race their time to shine. There have been issues in PvZ consistently for awhile now, it needs to be fixed. Terran has been looking strong since the map changes, worth keeping an eye on but since it's relatively recent and there's no dominant strategy that seems game breaking I think it's better to not have a huge knee jerk reaction right now, but definitely keep watching it. OK, so let's talk abalnce. Point out where WC Dark lost to a balance issue Point out where WC Rogue lost to a balance issue Point out where the upcoming changes would make it worse for both reinging world champions. Bonus points for pointing these things out on soO's games. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:44 sneakyfox wrote: It's a bit sad to have all this balance talk on top such great play from TY rather than just enjoying the games (unless you're a Dark fan, that is understandable). Dark didn't lose because of balance, he lost because of TY playing amazing and Dark not having a good day. According to aligulac, TvZ has been perfectly balanced for the last three months. So yeah we can definitely discuss the upcoming balance patch but today was not about balance. yeah there wasn't very much that was super new in terms of meta that TY did in the series. | ||
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Schelim
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On May 20 2020 19:48 Morbidius wrote: I love how Parting has a big speech for what his chances today are, while Maru is like ''He's doable','' Parting is extremely "doable" if you catch my drift | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:51 Schelim wrote: Parting is extremely "doable" if you catch my drift What are you on about? You trying to make him pull out his ruler again? | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:45 Morbidius wrote: He's consistent like Innovation is consistent, sure he has embarassing moments and big slumps, but its someone we know can bounce back to the top at any time. Since 2018, Zest has been winning a lot of online events while not doing great offline. This year he looked very strong again(except that in the last week) but a lot of his Aligulac points come from online tournaments. This statement has nothing to do with how relevant or successful Zest's career has been. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:46 deacon.frost wrote: well, it's not. In my view they were fine with zergs being strong while other races were not. Now the card flips and they're in uproar. It;s hypocritical imo nad I don't like it./ Also if 2019 tought us something, iot's that heavy racial inbalance in 1 tourney isn't a reason to change balance - e.g. ST1 with so many protosses. well because technically we r all terrans ;] | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:51 Schelim wrote: Parting is extremely "doable" if you catch my drift Maru is doable too if you catch my drift. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:35 Penev wrote: I want to go back to when protoss :D | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:56 Anc13nt wrote: aw that dive in was not really worth it right? Maybe not but it was very Parting. I would not want to be in this low-tech situation against Parting no matter what my position relative to Parting was economically. He just seems to eke out more advantages over time. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:49 deacon.frost wrote: OK, so let's talk abalnce. Point out where WC Dark lost to a balance issue Point out where WC Rogue lost to a balance issue Point out where the upcoming changes would make it worse for both reinging world champions. Bonus points for pointing these things out on soO's games. If I'm not wrong, you were advocating for immediate nerfs to Protoss. Blizzard got it extremely wrong with the August patch and Zerg favored maps weren't evidently rotated out fast enough, that's what lead to Zerg domination. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:58 Xain0n wrote: If I'm not wrong, you were advocating for immediate nerfs to Protoss. Blizzard got it extremely wrong with the August patch and Zerg favored maps weren't evidently rotated out fast enough, that's what lead to Zerg domination. Yes and I was wrong in that, not denying that, what's the connection to the post you're quoting though? Did you read what you were replying to? | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:57 Zealously wrote: Maybe not but it was very Parting. I would not want to be in this low-tech situation against Parting no matter what my position relative to Parting was economically. He just seems to eke out more advantages over time. picking off tanks in that situation is REALLY valuable. if the tank counts gets too high, there is 0 chance of the stalkers winning. So its worth to trade badly if you can pick off tanks. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:59 Andi_Goldberger wrote: picking off tanks in that situation is REALLY valuable. if the tank counts gets too high, there is 0 chance of the stalkers winning. So its worth to trade badly if you can pick off tanks. thats good to know. i kind of want to try that build out on ladder now lol. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:59 Andi_Goldberger wrote: picking off tanks in that situation is REALLY valuable. if the tank counts gets too high, there is 0 chance of the stalkers winning. So its worth to trade badly if you can pick off tanks. Not that at that point PartinG had to win with the stalkers. | ||
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stilt
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And then serral is streaming, well, Dark's defeat is rough but this is a nice day overall. | ||
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Z3nith
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On May 20 2020 20:00 Morbidius wrote: Is Parting the best Protoss in the world if he wins this? You know he might be. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:00 Morbidius wrote: Is Parting the best Protoss in the world if he wins this? he has better pvz and pvp than trap so YES | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:00 Anc13nt wrote: thats good to know. i kind of want to try that build out on ladder now lol. its really trash if you dont have parting level blink control but I believe :D | ||
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He might have better PvT too. | ||
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stilt
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On May 20 2020 20:00 Morbidius wrote: Is Parting the best Protoss in the world if he wins this? I will always put him in position for the biggest upset or performance on a bo5 but he always failed in finals of big tourney :/ | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:03 stilt wrote: I will always put him in position for the biggest upset or performance on a bo5 but he always failed in finals of big tourney :/ He(and Life) are the biggest wastes of potential in SC2, he got back to the top so fast after not playing for years, its unreal. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:03 stilt wrote: I will always put him in position for the biggest upset or performance on a bo5 but he always failed in finals of big tourney :/ He had the the misfortune of playing Life at his peaks in two big finals, against most players I think Parting is in a strong position to upset or even favored in a longer series | ||
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I'm pretty sure Trap has for sure better PvP, PvT I'd give an edge to Trap but not as big as it would've been last year. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:05 Morbidius wrote: He(and Life) are the biggest wastes of potential in SC2, he got back to the top so fast after not playing for years, its unreal. Life achieved his potential. He just threw it away for the $$$ from match fixing. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:06 royalroadweed wrote: Life achieved his potential. He just threw it away for the $$$ from match fixing. He may have reached his peak, but he could still ride on it for years. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:59 deacon.frost wrote: Yes and I was wrong in that, not denying that, what's the connection to the post you're quoting though? Did you read what you were replying to? Hm, it was meant to reply to one of your earlier posts to be honest. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:06 royalroadweed wrote: Life achieved his potential. He just threw it away for the $$$ from match fixing. I don't think there's any reason to believe he wouldn't have won several more championships if he hadn't been banned. Unlike sAvior in BW who was past the point where he seemed like he could win tournaments, Life was banned just months after finishing second at Blizzcon 2015. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:09 Zealously wrote: I don't think there's any reason to believe he wouldn't have won several more championships if he hadn't been banned. Unlike sAvior in BW who was past the point where he seemed like he could win tournaments, Life was banned just months after finishing second at Blizzcon 2015. Especially considering his age, he would be in a similar position to Maru right now, where all the big names are going to the army and GSLs get easier an easier for him. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:11 Morbidius wrote: Especially considering his age, he would be in a similar position to Maru right now, where all the big names are going to the army and GSLs get easier an easier for him. that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 seemsgood wrote: that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo That Life dude had the balls to go play in GSL. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 Morbidius wrote: MaxPax or DT rush incoming. Yes please | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 seemsgood wrote: that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo Playstyles are very different. Reynor is much more comparable imo. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 seemsgood wrote: that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo life played very aggressive and Maru-esque style(or MAru plays Life-esque ). Serral plays the opposite. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 seemsgood wrote: that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo Life and Serral are too stylistically different, I've seen more comparison between Reynor and Life. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 Morbidius wrote: That Life dude had the balls to go play in GSL. Well played | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:22 Z3nith wrote: Life and Serral are too stylistically different, I've seen more comparison between Reynor and Life. IMO serral plays more like soulkey and 2013 soo | ||
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What was it in the shit-talking group selection from some Zerg ... something about that you know what Parting has coming, and still end up losing to it. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:21 seemsgood wrote: that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo (Full disclosure: my passion for Starcraft was directly contingent on Life playing the game) There is no real comparison between the two because they are very, very different players both in terms of disposition and playstyle. Serral was hardly noteworthy by the time Life was banned, so there's no direct comparison to be made between them in that sense either. But Life was a very special player gameplay-wise, which is why he's not usually the player other Zergs are compared against. Much better to set a "standard" Zerg as the metric than some insane kid. Maybe Reynor is a fair comparison? I still don't think so but their approaches are far more similar, whereas Serral is a the archetypal control Zerg. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:24 Danglars wrote: Maru has been playing so well, but Parting has coped with some really tough situations and shown that he deserves this stage. These have been really exciting matches. What was it in the shit-talking group selection from some Zerg ... something about that you know what Parting has coming, and still end up losing to it. big boi is clinging on blunk stalkers way too much... | ||
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BerserkSword
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On May 20 2020 20:24 SamirDuran wrote: IMO serral plays more like soulkey and 2013 soo I would say the most apt comparison to Serral is ByuL especially in his 2015 peak. | ||
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stilt
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On May 20 2020 20:21 seemsgood wrote: that life dude would ve retired old players even faster but hey,we have serral as a great replacement right ? weird thing is i ve never seen people comparing him vs life ;oo That's quite petty. Some people compared Reynor to Life and I am pretty sure you will say the spaghetti boi is a trash player. The reason why there are not compared is because Serral is a pure macro Zerg (like a very upgraded version of Stephano) while Life is a very agressive one. It's more about style rather than perf. And before you begin some other attacks, I rank Life ahead of Serral... and Maru. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:25 Zealously wrote: (Full disclosure: my passion for Starcraft was directly contingent on Life playing the game) There is no real comparison between the two because they are very, very different players both in terms of disposition and playstyle. Serral was hardly noteworthy by the time Life was banned, so there's no direct comparison to be made between them in that sense either. But Life was a very special player gameplay-wise, which is why he's not usually the player other Zergs are compared against. Much better to set a "standard" Zerg as the metric than some insane kid. Maybe Reynor is a fair comparison? I still don't think so but their approaches are far more similar, whereas Serral is a the archetypal control Zerg. but still ...one aspect i find both are ridiculously insane is the ling runby tho in da past,ive asked many times who got better ling runby between the two | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:28 Anc13nt wrote: i hope parting is able to reach his full potential soon. his games often look weird in a good way. but in the enddd,it doesnt even matter | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:27 Elentos wrote: I would say the most apt comparison to Serral is ByuL especially in his 2015 peak. Having to deal with an autoloss if you reach an even lategame against Terran or Protoss is something Serral never had to deal with(well he had, but he could not win shit and no one cared about him). | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:30 Morbidius wrote: Having to deal with an autoloss if you reach an even lategame against Terran or Protoss is something Serral never had to deal with(well he had, but he could not win shit and no one cared about him). It's a comment on playstyle not career. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:33 Elentos wrote: Alright I guess PartinG is hoping it gets to game 5 so he can then use his 2nd build. He was known for spamming one build in PvZ in WoL, i wouldn't expect too much | ||
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but byul sometimes cheeses tho.serral is "not a flying fuck given" guy | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:35 seemsgood wrote: but byul sometimes cheeses tho.serral is "not a flying fuck given" guy They both sometimes cheese but not very often. And there were more options in terms of outright cheese available in HotS. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:37 Zealously wrote: Maybe I'm grossly underestimating Parting but I wouldn't ever öit myself in a late-game position against Maru if I were the big boy DTs though | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:37 Zealously wrote: Maybe I'm grossly underestimating Parting but I wouldn't ever put myself in a late-game position against Maru if I were the big boy | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:45 Schelim wrote: these dudes sure make for a fun series IKR? So much micro and tactics from both, i want a BO69. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:45 deacon.frost wrote: If Parting will advance, I expect him play like trash against TY because he's the bane of Maru and not TY TY is 7-14, 1-7 in offline matches vs PartinG | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:45 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: I don't really believe it's possible, but my ideal universe right now has Parting winning this GSL. I wanted trap or cure to win....but between this series micro and the micro vs ragnarok....god dayum | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:45 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: I don't really believe it's possible, but my ideal universe right now has Parting winning this GSL. No more Zergs, best Terran is gone if he wins. His chances are actually good if he gets to the RO4. | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:25 seemsgood wrote: big boi is clinging on blunk stalkers way too much... If it puts you 2-2 against Maru, I can’t call it clinging. I say go what you’re comfortable with and what works in practice games. Seeing that last game, Parting wasn’t out of sorts having to multitask against 4-base maru. Also DTs chargelots and drops would be fine while poking. Those disruptor shots when Maru was forced to look somewhere else were something else on top of it all. Literally saving DTs while this was all going on. | ||
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KEEP THINKING | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:59 Zealously wrote: Uhhh that was questionable Parting but its cool as fuck ;oo | ||
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On May 20 2020 20:59 Zealously wrote: Uhhh that was questionable Parting it was a good idea until turrets almost killed 2 colossi | ||
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0/2 bets | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:03 Schelim wrote: *checks calendar for current year* It's 201520 | ||
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Thanks Maru for taking one for the team and ensuring the mine buff goes thru. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:04 SamirDuran wrote: Welp both of the champions are now out. Happy for parting! technically we still have a world champ in the semi-finals, but yes, no GSL champs on this side | ||
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inb4 he loses to TY's turtlemech | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:04 AzAlexZ wrote: this proves Neeb is GSL Round of 4 material (cuz he beat Parting yesterday XD) PvP sucks so it doesnt matter ;oo | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:05 Schelim wrote: TY vs Parting is gonna be a wild series every Parting match is a wild series lol | ||
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crazy absolutely crazy.. edit: he just said it in his interview.. he knew his micro was better! played to it! crazy.. | ||
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Still super glad for both of them, especially PartinG | ||
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was a joke but touche | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:04 NoS-Craig wrote: 1/1 on my LB. Picked Dark and PartinG to advance tonight. that's 1/2 then but gratz, went with todays most popular 0/2 myself :p | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:04 AzAlexZ wrote: this proves Neeb is GSL Round of 4 material (cuz he beat Parting yesterday XD) Neeb has already made a GSL round of 4. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:03 Zealously wrote: That really was the most deserved fingerwag in Starcraft perhaps of all time I like how he looked like he himself couldn't believe what just happened while doing it. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:05 BerserkSword wrote: parting is a god inb4 he loses to TY's turtlemech PartinG vs TY mech games are always fun though. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:06 DBooN wrote: I like how he looked like he himself couldn't believe what just happened while doing it. Yeah he seems really stunned and genuinely moved right now, I don't think I've ever really seen Parting like this? Straight-up no braggadocio is so uncharacteristic of this guy | ||
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He puts the question to Terran: can you really even lose a double medicac drop (for Maru, triple), and still defend two bases at once from my harass and main army? Disruptor colo blink means base trade is a poor poor option. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:08 sudete wrote: Parting vs TY is the classic streamer vs caster battle we've all been waiting for lmao | ||
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<3 this season of GSLOn May 20 2020 21:09 Olli wrote: LOL this piano version of the coffin meme Actually, it sounds very cute | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:06 Penev wrote: that's 1/2 then but gratz, went with todays most popular 0/2 myself :p Well yer that's what I meant my bad. I was trying to say 1 right and 1 wrong. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:09 Elentos wrote: PartinG honestly didn't look too thrilled when thinking about playing TY. Imagine running the full Maru-TY-Inno gauntlet though as PartinG. Yeah and it's even going to be Bo7 from now on. Say he meets Inno in the finals, it's going to be hard to surprise. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:10 Xain0n wrote: Now give me Trap and Cure for my dream ro4! i just want bogus wins it all ;o | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:14 -KG- wrote: Guess TY needs to prepare his blink/collosus defense :p Mech is good against those things | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:10 Xain0n wrote: Now give me Trap and Cure for my dream ro4! That would sound amazing | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:13 Weavel wrote: Really gotta watch more Parting streams. his streams are nothing like what he exhibited today even his non GSL tournament games arent what he exhibted today and vs ragnarok Parting plays like a lunatic when he cares, it seems | ||
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It is until PartinG is in your main, natural, third and fourth with blink DTs and you've lost all your expands. | ||
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second mech hokage avilo dies to blink stalkers everytime :[ | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:16 BerserkSword wrote: his streams are nothing like what he exhibited today even his non GSL tournament games arent what he exhibted today and vs ragnarok Parting plays like a lunatic when he cares, it seems You keep saying RagnaroK but surely you mean the Ro16 games against soO. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:16 BerserkSword wrote: his streams are nothing like what he exhibited today even his non GSL tournament games arent what he exhibted today and vs ragnarok Parting plays like a lunatic when he cares, it seems I was blown away at this last two games. His blink stalkers looked liked his ladder games, but Eternal Empire and Zen, he looked like a completely different beast. | ||
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On the flip side, Parting'a idea of making extra expansions and perfectly having probes ready to spot drops was straight up brilliant and probably won him both games. Well deserved, even though DTs are annoying and disruptors are stupid units. | ||
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He might even demonstrate mid game and late game PvT macro in two more PvT series for the championship. This kind of happens at a time where the latest bright stars of Protoss have been dying, but an older generation is trying to sieze back the mantle. He’ll need more than two or three flavors of the same build. But if he has the passion now... | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:21 Olli wrote: I need someone to fix Mvp's wrists so he can join this 2012 revival If this season is a revival of old forms i want 2013 Dear back please | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:21 Olli wrote: I need someone to fix Mvp's wrists so he can join this 2012 revival you mean make him prosthetic arms ? | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:17 Elentos wrote: You keep saying RagnaroK but surely you mean the Ro16 games against soO. damn i meant soo yea LOL | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:16 Anc13nt wrote: pretty exciting to see a lot of players coming out of their slumps. parting actually retired for a couple of years, wouldnt call it a slump | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:21 Olli wrote: I need someone to fix Mvp's wrists so he can join this 2012 revival I need Nestea to come back and make the Nestea award challenging again | ||
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Whatever it takes On May 20 2020 21:23 Penev wrote: I need Nestea to come back and make the Nestea award challenging again The one who made it truly challenging was the gatekeeper though. Curious, stop casting and fire up some games! | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:24 Elentos wrote: I'm surprised stuchiu hasn't completed Mvp's exoskeleton yet. I was sure he'd be done at this point. I wouldn't trust him with the re-activation of former players, lest we get Sniper back | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:26 Olli wrote: I wouldn't trust him with the re-activation of former players, lest we get Sniper back Sniper comeback would be the peak of comedy though. And then he wins another GSL and retires to become a Valorant pro. | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:26 Elentos wrote: Sniper comeback would be the peak of comedy though. And then he wins another GSL and retires to become a Valorant pro. Ok, you've convinced me | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:26 Elentos wrote: Sniper comeback would be the peak of comedy though. And then he wins another GSL and retires to become a Valorant pro. Missed his chance in 2019. | ||
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On May 20 2020 19:13 Elentos wrote: Did TY snipe all the swarm hosts off-screen? Also upon watching the FPV VOD it turns out that TY indeed found the SH by themselves and killed all but 2 with his ghosts at which point Dark left. | ||
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But as a diehard SKT fan, seeing the 0-3 from Dark just broke my heart... But PartinG eliminated Maru and prevented the G5L so that’s good news. Now nothing stands in INnoVation’s way! | ||
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On May 20 2020 22:15 Elentos wrote: Also upon watching the FPV VOD it turns out that TY indeed found the SH by themselves and killed all but 2 with his ghosts at which point Dark left. makes sense i was wondering how Dark's supply crashed so fast. | ||
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On May 20 2020 23:04 Seeker wrote: As a man, I am not supposed to cry easily... But as a diehard SKT fan, seeing the 0-3 from Dark just broke my heart... But PartinG eliminated Maru and prevented the G5L so that’s good news. Now nothing stands in INnoVation’s way! dude crying is amazing. let it out. I hardly ever cried as a child but ever since like my mid-20ies i love that shit | ||
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On May 20 2020 12:26 catplanetcatplanet wrote: If big boi makes ro4 I will order ihop for breakfast Thank u big boi for enabling me to order ihop for breakfast Recommended games from maru v parting? | ||
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On May 21 2020 00:01 Lexender wrote: Something tells me Maru will never get the G5L. Goddamn. Maru already has(or should have); there is no reason for Super Tournaments not to count while GSL vs the World does! Every GSL tournament should count, it's not restricted to Code S only. | ||
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On May 21 2020 01:04 PartyBiscuit wrote: Are TY's games worth watching, or should I head straight to big boy? Game 2 is already a candidate for GOTY. Amazing series of tech switches and awesome lategame play from TY. Game 3 was also good if you like TY, but propably too onesided for a general audience. | ||
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On May 21 2020 01:04 PartyBiscuit wrote: Are TY's games worth watching, or should I head straight to big boy? TY/Dark is a great series. Any idea why the Parting/Maru matches haven't popped up on the Youtube channel yet? As an old school Parting fan, it's great to see him during this run. As long as he or sOs are around, I'll keep watching. | ||
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On May 21 2020 00:33 catplanetcatplanet wrote: Thank u big boi for enabling me to order ihop for breakfast Recommended games from maru v parting? def g4 g5, game 1, also | ||
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On May 21 2020 01:10 TradeMark wrote: TY/Dark is a great series. Any idea why the Parting/Maru matches haven't popped up on the Youtube channel yet? As an old school Parting fan, it's great to see him during this run. As long as he or sOs are around, I'll keep watching. The original broadcasted stream was taken down due to a copyright claim against one of the songs that was played during one of the breaks. For now, the original video has presumably been made private and the AfreecaTV crew working on the youtube side of things should have the Parting v Maru VOD up slightly later (with the offending soundtrack removed) | ||
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On May 20 2020 21:23 Elentos wrote: I think it's kinda funny that PartinG would have practiced with Cure, who's going to play Dear who practiced with Inno, who's going to play Trap who practiced with Maru. PartinG mentioned on his stream he practiced with Byun, Taeja and Cure to prepare for Maru. | ||
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On May 21 2020 01:09 sneakyfox wrote: Game 2 is already a candidate for GOTY. Amazing series of tech switches and awesome lategame play from TY. Game 3 was also good if you like TY, but propably too onesided for a general audience. Just finished game 2 - did I miss something -for sure TY was clamping the map and about to win, but we were watching BL/infestor and Dark was down to ~175 supply, he then suddenly drops to 145 and gg's but I'm not sure what died. Was there a mass snipe or something that killed his swarm hosts on the other side of the map? | ||
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On May 21 2020 01:53 PartyBiscuit wrote: Just finished game 2 - did I miss something -for sure TY was clamping the map and about to win, but we were watching BL/infestor and Dark was down to ~175 supply, he then suddenly drops to 145 and gg's but I'm not sure what died. Was there a mass snipe or something that killed his swarm hosts on the other side of the map? Per earlier comments in the thread, it does indeed appear that the SHs were sniped off-screen at which point Dark conceded | ||
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On May 21 2020 01:54 Zealously wrote: Per earlier comments in the thread, it does indeed appear that the SHs were sniped off-screen at which point Dark conceded Yeah, sadly the observer missed it entirely but you can see it in the VODs for the FPV streams. TY kills all but 2 SHs with the ghosts. On May 21 2020 01:19 TradeMark wrote: Dadgummit, how am I going to get my parting fix today? Appreciate the insight! On May 21 2020 01:43 vagabunka wrote: WHERE IS PARTING vs MARU VOD ?¿ ? ? ? ? ? Until there's a Youtube VOD, stick to the Afreeca one: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/56775225 | ||
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Dark vs TY was a really good setup to the finale that was PartinG vs Maru. That was epic. | ||
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Really awesome ro4 coming up and the fact that one of those two will be in the finals is so sick | ||
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Really hope he doesn't play sick against Maru then shit the bed in the next round. We've seen Stats do it before. If he keeps his form up PartinG is winning this season. Terran can't do anything to him and he's always been an extremely underrated PvPer. edit: sad we couldn't get a PartinG Maru finals though, had Maru finished first in his group it would have probably happened | ||
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After giving a bit of a though to Parting style. I think he relies too much in his vision to make those sick moves with the stalkers, I feel like any Terran that watches the replays and wants to hard counter the style will favor a raven and a viking as a tag team to snipe those pesky observers, something that Maru has already done in the past, rather than open 3 cloaked banshees. I mean you can go banshee viking raven instead. So I am not sure what Parting will bring in the Ro4 vs TY but I cant wait to watch it. | ||
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On May 21 2020 05:04 D-light wrote: The Maru vs PartinG yt vid finally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOqxkPW9iFA I like how they start out with talking about one of the "craziest upsets" ... not knowing they were going to cast a much crazier upset in the very next series. PartinG the Big Boy. | ||
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Probably if Dark goes pool first then he is ahead, and it all plays out vice versa. Funny how an opening can change things. | ||
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There were points in that game where I was pretty sure any Diamond terran could have closed it out. | ||
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On May 21 2020 08:09 Rucho wrote: Wow congrats parting. Although I'm pretty sure Maru would have had this in the bag had he not absolutely donated game 1. He did so many bonehead things, most of all, allowing your opp to have free obs in your base even when you have 3 OCs, plus stim and medivacs seemed late. There were points in that game where I was pretty sure any Diamond terran could have closed it out. Parting is the greatest PvTer of all time and is legendary for his unparalleled blink stalker pressure. And you think a diamond Terran is going to stop it? | ||
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I didn't realize that Parting was on DPG. That team is starting to overtake JinAir in my mind as the best Sc2 team. | ||
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On May 21 2020 09:14 BerserkSword wrote: Parting is the greatest PvTer of all time and is legendary for his unparalleled blink stalker pressure. And you think a diamond Terran is going to stop it? This is a classic case of a "forum telephone", and it's frustrating to witness. Rucho states that Maru let PartinG's obs go untouched in his base for minutes on end and had late upgrades, and you're just like "BUT STALKER MICRO THO". Rucho is right. Diamond Terrans would have probably scanned and killed the obs, and probably would have been less facepalmy in that game. An overexaggeration, sure. But I'll never understand why someone quotes a comment and then just responds to what they heard in their head rather than what the person actually said. PartinG's micro would have been much less relevant if Maru took care of the stated mistakes in his own play. | ||
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On May 21 2020 11:05 RogerChillingworth wrote: This is a classic case of a "forum telephone", and it's frustrating to witness. Rucho states that Maru let PartinG's obs go untouched in his base for minutes on end and had late upgrades, and you're just like "BUT STALKER MICRO THO". Rucho is right. Diamond Terrans would have probably scanned and killed the obs, and probably would have been less facepalmy in that game. An overexaggeration, sure. But I'll never understand why someone quotes a comment and then just responds to what they heard in their head rather than what the person actually said. PartinG's micro would have been much less relevant if Maru took care of the stated mistakes in his own play. I am responding exactly to what rucho said. Rucho said that Maru "donated" the game and shouldve wasted money on upgrades and tech when the greatest blink stalker pvter of all time, bar none, is going ham inside your base, and that replacing a Terran horseman with a diamond player wouldve done things that wouldve made the game less parting favored....LOL I don't think you understand how powerful blink stalkers are against early game terran. if you don't get enough fighting units you just die. Stim, medivacs, and observer sniping isnt going to save you if you simply don't have the army supply to contend with the stalkers Maru didnt donate any game, all 5 games were excellent. Maru lost game 1 it happens | ||
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On May 21 2020 04:40 Fango wrote: edit: sad we couldn't get a PartinG Maru finals though, had Maru finished first in his group it would have probably happened It's fine, INno already told us he's winning this season so that wouldn't have happened anyway | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On May 21 2020 13:53 Russano wrote: Parting's Observer placement in game 1 was perfect. It gave him vision of exactly what he needed. It was in an usual position, and it was on top of a barracks to make the shimmer hard to see. Maru scanned multiple times in his base but was just slightly too far left to hit it. His observer placement was really good throughout the series, I thought. Felt like he almost always had vision+detection where he needed it. I was watching this on youtube last night and it got cut off going into Maru-Parting game 4. Maru looked like he outclassed Parting SO HARD in games 2 and 3, I can't believe he went on to lose. I wonder if Maru got a bit cocky in game 4 especially, like "Yeah, I got your number, I can just do whatever I like and win, GTFO," because it really looked like he should win straight-up games, but his decision to cheese put him way behind early on. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17671 Posts
On May 21 2020 00:36 Xain0n wrote: Maru already has(or should have); there is no reason for Super Tournaments not to count while GSL vs the World does! Every GSL tournament should count, it's not restricted to Code S only. I think only Code S should count, I love Inno but if he gets his G5L trophy before Maru does that's gonna be so dumb, GSL vs The World is a popularity contest of showmatches it shouldn't count | ||
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Roadog
Canada1670 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17671 Posts
On May 21 2020 05:25 Argonauta wrote: Just saw the games. Really surprised by TY crushing 3-0 Dark. Also Parting defeating Maru means there is whole of new fresh air to the code S even if it pains me a lot, not just watching Maru lose, but knowing I will not see him play until next GSL. After giving a bit of a though to Parting style. I think he relies too much in his vision to make those sick moves with the stalkers, I feel like any Terran that watches the replays and wants to hard counter the style will favor a raven and a viking as a tag team to snipe those pesky observers, something that Maru has already done in the past, rather than open 3 cloaked banshees. I mean you can go banshee viking raven instead. So I am not sure what Parting will bring in the Ro4 vs TY but I cant wait to watch it. I think a raven is too easy to snipe with blink stalkers, combined with a viking that means like 3 less medivacs (can't build raven on a reactor) the old counter to blink stalkers when they were killing terrans left and right was a missile turret | ||
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