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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 02 2019 13:10 GMT
#2981
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 02 2019 13:26 GMT
#2982
I went to bed happy last night, after the first 3 best of 5s, pretty much exactly what i was hoping for.
Then this morning i watched the VOD, and pretty much my worst case scenario played out.
Dark cleared out the bottom half easily, Reynor sniped Serral, then fell apart in the finals.

Congratz to Dark, very dominating performance, just not really the fun ride i was hoping for
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 02 2019 13:40 GMT
#2983
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

He looked pretty bad vs soO, soO just played worse than him.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
November 02 2019 13:51 GMT
#2984
Damn. Really wanted Reynor to win but deep down I knew he wouldn't beat Dark.... GGs to everyone though. Congrats Dark.
Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil273 Posts
November 02 2019 13:52 GMT
#2985
Damn. Serral vs Reynor will be the 2020 theme. Hyped
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
November 02 2019 14:11 GMT
#2986
For the second year in a row, the finals has been a disappointment in terms of matchup and hype. Last year it should’ve been Serral Maru: sOs ruined that. This year it should’ve been Serral Dark: Reynor ruined that. If you’re going to mess up our dream scenario finals at least have the decency to not fall apart immediately afterwards. 😜
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-02 14:53:06
November 02 2019 14:14 GMT
#2987
Damn Dark crushed him!

Congratz to the champ, and to all those zerg whiner, lets wait and see how well Dark does in the next moth before bringing out the P word

Also:


And final also: Would be nice to have a more experienced observer next time, it wasn't great (it wasn't terrible either but it's Blizzcon) either Mapu or Shine would have been nice. No hate on whoever did it, (aparently it was someone named awesomeSauce?) but it would be nice to give him more event to work in if they have him next time.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Justinian
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
November 02 2019 14:32 GMT
#2988
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

Yeah, this was so confusing - he didn't seem like Serral at all in game 5. It was one of the biggest throws I've ever seen.

The decision to go ultras was bizarre. He had Reynor backed into a corner, losing drones left and right. He had 6 or 7 bases to Reynor's 4. Reynor had zero presence on Serral's side of the map for 10 minutes. He had all the time in the world to go into lurkers or anything else for that matter, and he chooses... ultras. Maybe it was something to do with melee upgrades, but Dark showed on the same map shortly afterwards that you can do a lurker transition in that position, no problem. Any choice but ultras and Serral would have made it to the final and we would likely have had a much better contest on our hands.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 02 2019 14:40 GMT
#2989
On November 02 2019 22:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

He looked pretty bad vs soO, soO just played worse than him.


Serral looked ok against soO, who did pretty well.
What series were you watching?

Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
November 02 2019 14:47 GMT
#2990
On November 02 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 22:40 Ej_ wrote:
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

He looked pretty bad vs soO, soO just played worse than him.


Serral looked ok against soO, who did pretty well.
What series were you watching?



I feel like the history of judging games went:

He's such a god - He has superior knowledge of the game - IMBA - lol what a throw - They are both shit
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Justinian
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
November 02 2019 14:50 GMT
#2991
Can anyone explain to me why Reynor refused to wall off the corners of his mineral lines at his third and fourth with an evo chamber or two on Disco Bloodbath against both Serral and Dark? There was an unending tide of baneling runbys coming in, over and over again, and he was losing 10-20 drones each time. It's so cheap to make an extra evo or two. Am I missing something - is it not effective for some reason? I know a few banes might still get through, but surely it would have helped. They needn't be in an exposed position and he had spores and queens in range, so they wouldn't have died to the mutas.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 02 2019 14:56 GMT
#2992
On November 02 2019 23:32 Justinian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

Yeah, this was so confusing - he didn't seem like Serral at all in game 5. It was one of the biggest throws I've ever seen.

The decision to go ultras was bizarre. He had Reynor backed into a corner, losing drones left and right. He had 6 or 7 bases to Reynor's 4. Reynor had zero presence on Serral's side of the map for 10 minutes. He had all the time in the world to go into lurkers or anything else for that matter, and he chooses... ultras. Maybe it was something to do with melee upgrades, but Dark showed on the same map shortly afterwards that you can do a lurker transition in that position, no problem. Any choice but ultras and Serral would have made it to the final and we would likely have had a much better contest on our hands.

Not to mention he just showed how to crush this muta-bane into ultralisk style in game 4.
If i didnt know any better, i d say he was trying to style-on Reynor, like ”yeah, u cant win with that strat, but I can”- but that would be so out of character for Serral, i dont believe that's what happened
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
November 02 2019 15:00 GMT
#2993
On November 02 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Pretty crazy that Smix said that WCS is returning in 2020. Will be very interesting to see in what form. And is it really true?!


Really? Unfortunately I fell asleep at around ~2.00 AM so I didn't catch anything that happened after that time. I'd be happy if we have another year of SC II.

Did they talk about inControl at some point?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 02 2019 15:11 GMT
#2994
On November 02 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 22:40 Ej_ wrote:
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

He looked pretty bad vs soO, soO just played worse than him.


Serral looked ok against soO, who did pretty well.
What series were you watching?


Well "ok" is pretty bad comparatively
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StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
November 02 2019 15:20 GMT
#2995
On November 03 2019 00:00 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Pretty crazy that Smix said that WCS is returning in 2020. Will be very interesting to see in what form. And is it really true?!


Really? Unfortunately I fell asleep at around ~2.00 AM so I didn't catch anything that happened after that time. I'd be happy if we have another year of SC II.

Did they talk about inControl at some point?


They started their show with a tribute to him.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
November 02 2019 15:23 GMT
#2996
On November 02 2019 23:47 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On November 02 2019 22:40 Ej_ wrote:
On November 02 2019 22:10 Shikyo wrote:
Why did Serral make Ultras in game 5, made no sense... Even if he was behind in upgrades, he still had an extremely good chance of overwhelming Reynor with his Viper and Infestor combo. He died with some 2.5k in the bank, too. Why does he always play so awful vs Reynor? He looked so much better vs SoO.

He looked pretty bad vs soO, soO just played worse than him.


Serral looked ok against soO, who did pretty well.
What series were you watching?



I feel like the history of judging games went:

He's such a god - He has superior knowledge of the game - IMBA - lol what a throw - They are both shit

Dont forget the "he wasn't in top form"
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
November 02 2019 15:23 GMT
#2997
On November 02 2019 23:14 Nakajin wrote:
Damn Dark crushed him!

Congratz to the champ, and to all those zerg whiner, lets wait and see how well Dark does in the next moth before bringing out the P word

Also:
https://twitter.com/TSG_Solar/status/1190507281625931776

And final also: Would be nice to have a more experienced observer next time, it wasn't great (it wasn't terrible either but it's Blizzcon) either Mapu or Shine would have been nice. No hate on whoever did it, (aparently it was someone named awesomeSauce?) but it would be nice to give him more event to work in if they have him next time.


AweesomeSauce is a up and coming observer on the scene: he did every match this year in the last two seasons of EU/NA Challenger. He was probably a sensible hire being based in the SoCal area already instead of flying someone in from Europe.
Sviru1
Profile Joined January 2017
30 Posts
November 02 2019 15:26 GMT
#2998
idk. Serral threw game 5 / 80 vs 40 workers... and lose on this lvl is out of this world.
Dark vs Serral would be much better finals. Disappointing. Happy for Reynor but again - hoped for more.
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
November 02 2019 15:28 GMT
#2999
On November 03 2019 00:26 Sviru1 wrote:
idk. Serral threw game 5 / 80 vs 40 workers... and lose on this lvl is out of this world.
Dark vs Serral would be much better finals. Disappointing. Happy for Reynor but again - hoped for more.


he had inferior tech tho. nevertheless that was quesitonable build to put it lightly. g2 was questionable too.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
November 02 2019 15:33 GMT
#3000
Dark may have won Blizzcon, but Classic won our hearts.
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