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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On July 11 2019 20:01 deacon.frost wrote: If the way the polls are written follow bracket, then the next matches are Inno v soO Maru v Mvp I wouldn't be so sure about this. Well considering I had people vote between Zest and Kiwikaki I don't think I will stop now  Also write-up are finally done | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26785 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On July 12 2019 02:26 Wombat_NI wrote: Yay writeups incoming I've added them to the first page  | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 11 2019 22:43 Xain0n wrote: If Maru retired before 2018 Stats would have been so much ahead it would be laughable to even compare them. Only if Stats picked up a bunch of wins in Maru's absence. Pre-2018 did people really have Stats higher in the GOAT list than Maru? | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
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Moonerz
United States461 Posts
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Dave4
494 Posts
It's no surprise that Maru can win under the GSL planning format but can't win weekenders that test your underlying ability to endure a gauntlet of many different players with different styles. To me Stats has shown he can do both on his own. | ||
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RatzBarcode
United States98 Posts
And yet, ever since Maru upset innovation in OSL 2013, I've wanted to see Maru win, even when they play. how he nonchalantly shakes his wrists after a win. how we watched a shy kid grow up. innovations peaks are prolly higher. but innovation and getting knocked out by an inferior protoss, name a more iconic duo. Maru is prolly the most feared player in any GSL. how many times has he made someone look like they didn't even belong in pro play? that's the basis of his 4-0 sweeps in under an hour of play. Maru is the best player, with inno a close second. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On July 13 2019 07:11 Dave4 wrote: Maru has done very well for himself lately, but he is not my number 1. He is the king of prep style in an era where there is only one team house. In my view you simply can't ignore that fact. It's not a level playing field when he can draw on so many other full time resources for map planning, scouting and replicating opponents' builds, and working out patterns in their play. It's no surprise that Maru can win under the GSL planning format but can't win weekenders that test your underlying ability to endure a gauntlet of many different players with different styles. To me Stats has shown he can do both on his own. OSL, SSL. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On July 13 2019 07:11 Dave4 wrote: Maru has done very well for himself lately, but he is not my number 1. He is the king of prep style in an era where there is only one team house. In my view you simply can't ignore that fact. It's not a level playing field when he can draw on so many other full time resources for map planning, scouting and replicating opponents' builds, and working out patterns in their play. It's no surprise that Maru can win under the GSL planning format but can't win weekenders that test your underlying ability to endure a gauntlet of many different players with different styles. To me Stats has shown he can do both on his own. Well, he was also destroying everyone in Proleague in an era when everyone good was in a teamhouse, while also winning OSL, SSL, achieving multiple GSL top4 and getting second in IEM Taipei only because he didnt close his depos against Life in 2 or 3 games (he should have won Taipei was the superior player there by far). So Maru would definitely be in the top 10 regardless of the 4 GSL wins in a row. That just puts him to the top, alongside Innovation. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
Results:  Maru: 95 votes Stats: 15 votesMaru goes to the round of 4!Placement match TaeJa: 65 votes NesTea: 37 votesNesTea ends up at 7-8th place and we'll see if TaeJa can make the top 5 | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
This poll is closed The poll are open until Write-up are up on the first page This poll is closed | ||
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esReveR
United States567 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On July 15 2019 14:11 esReveR wrote: @ OP: What about MVP's 2011 WCG win? How can I forget about it! I also forgot about Maru Asian Games win. (But seriously tho I don't list every win cause there's just a lot for some, so I tend to focus on what I think were the most impressive, in which kind WCG as a kind of Blizzcon could have been it I guess, but for exemple Mvp also has an IEM and Zest as a Master Coliseum) | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7200 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 15 2019 14:18 Nakajin wrote: How can I forget about it! I also forgot about Maru Asian Games win. (But seriously tho I don't list every win cause there's just a lot for some, so I tend to focus on what I think were the most impressive, in which kind WCG as a kind of Blizzcon could have been it I guess, but for exemple Mvp also has an IEM and Zest as a Master Coliseum) I don't think Master's Coliseum or Asian Games can be compared to IEM and WCG; also, since we are entering the latest stages of the competition, listing all the victories shouldn't add too much work. Your effort is, in any of case, greatly appreciated. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On July 15 2019 18:05 Harris1st wrote: Voted for Zest cause we need a Protoss in Top 4 :D I did to actually, I think Zest is the GOAT toss while mvp is my 3rd terran, and I feel like we are way to close to have 1-2-3 as T haha. | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
2.- Innovation. 3.- MVP 4.-Taeja. 5.-Zest After Life retired lvl went down a lot, now even foreigners defeat regularly koreans. Even Maru who was a second tier won 3 gsl. SC2 decadent begun that year =( | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
On July 16 2019 01:08 Nakajin wrote: I did to actually, I think Zest is the GOAT toss while mvp is my 3rd terran, and I feel like we are way to close to have 1-2-3 as T haha. This reasoning doesn't make sense. If the top 3 GOATs are Terrans then so be it. Personally, I think the top 3 GOATs are 2 terrans and a zerg (who shall not be named), but lacking that certain zerg, it's 3 terrans. I don't really see how you can make a case for Zest being greater than Mvp unless you put a huuuuuge value on longevity (even if it's longevity without top results). | ||
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