On July 01 2019 02:41 Kuleto69 wrote: Sick great play by Serral, but yeah agree TY needs ghosts, I would say a ground component like thors as well but acually with that many vipers they could just be abducted. Same for ghosts exccept the ghosts can snipe the overseers and cloak so ghosts best and yeah...just the best late game unit imo in the game.Im protoss player.
Thors are actually worse against infestors than BCs are.
On July 01 2019 02:09 Ej_ wrote: [quote] There's maybe 1 person on the planet that can and that guy still curses on stream when Maru starts sniping hia infestors.
wut? and whu?
As if it's not obvious that would be Dark.
you mean Dark is the only one that can beat Maru/TY lategame. As it should be - only top players can beat other top players. Pretty sure other Zergs can beat Keen's/alive's Heromarine's lategame
So Serral is not even a top player? That's frankly embarassing, "here you lost all of your credibility".
Serral in 2018 was stronger than he is nowadays, but surely he can lose series without necessarily playing bad.
We're talking about TvZ lategame here in which Serral has barely any practice vs top players. This should be self-explanatory but no wonder you get offended immediately.
but Serral is winning this vs TY
Yes, because TY is playing terribly. He is not exactly well renown for being the best late game TvZ, and this game he is even playing with a bad composition. Dark would have crushed him like 10 minutes ago.
What are you smoking super late game is literally what TY is known for. The only other terran that is equal or better to him at it is Maru and maaaaaaaaaaybe innovation
With mass landed vikings and air only? What are you smoking?
Not saying TY chose a good strategy this game but saying TY is not known for his late game is stupid.
I like what Solar said - this is a built that if unscouted is an auto win for terran, and if scouted it's really hard in the lategame. serral had good scouting
On July 01 2019 02:10 deacon.frost wrote: [quote] wut? and whu?
As if it's not obvious that would be Dark.
you mean Dark is the only one that can beat Maru/TY lategame. As it should be - only top players can beat other top players. Pretty sure other Zergs can beat Keen's/alive's Heromarine's lategame
So Serral is not even a top player? That's frankly embarassing, "here you lost all of your credibility".
Serral in 2018 was stronger than he is nowadays, but surely he can lose series without necessarily playing bad.
We're talking about TvZ lategame here in which Serral has barely any practice vs top players. This should be self-explanatory but no wonder you get offended immediately.
but Serral is winning this vs TY
Yes, because TY is playing terribly. He is not exactly well renown for being the best late game TvZ, and this game he is even playing with a bad composition. Dark would have crushed him like 10 minutes ago.
What are you smoking super late game is literally what TY is known for. The only other terran that is equal or better to him at it is Maru and maaaaaaaaaaybe innovation
With mass landed vikings and air only? What are you smoking?
Not saying TY chose a good strategy this game but saying TY is not known for his late game is stupid.
I like what Solar said - this is a built that if unscouted is an auto win for terran, and if scouted it's really hard in the lategame. serral had good scouting
Saying TY is bad at late game is like saying sOs is known for his macro and Rain is known for his cheese play. It's just objectively wrong. Just ask Tastosis about TY's late game
On July 01 2019 02:10 deacon.frost wrote: [quote] wut? and whu?
As if it's not obvious that would be Dark.
you mean Dark is the only one that can beat Maru/TY lategame. As it should be - only top players can beat other top players. Pretty sure other Zergs can beat Keen's/alive's Heromarine's lategame
So Serral is not even a top player? That's frankly embarassing, "here you lost all of your credibility".
Serral in 2018 was stronger than he is nowadays, but surely he can lose series without necessarily playing bad.
We're talking about TvZ lategame here in which Serral has barely any practice vs top players. This should be self-explanatory but no wonder you get offended immediately.
but Serral is winning this vs TY
Yes, because TY is playing terribly. He is not exactly well renown for being the best late game TvZ, and this game he is even playing with a bad composition. Dark would have crushed him like 10 minutes ago.
What are you smoking super late game is literally what TY is known for. The only other terran that is equal or better to him at it is Maru and maaaaaaaaaaybe innovation
With mass landed vikings and air only? What are you smoking?
Not saying TY chose a good strategy this game but saying TY is not known for his late game is stupid.
I like what Solar said - this is a built that if unscouted is an auto win for terran, and if scouted it's really hard in the lategame. serral had good scouting
Serral won by the scout 30 minutes ago and you're defending him because of this game... again, what are you smoking?
On July 01 2019 02:41 Kuleto69 wrote: Sick great play by Serral, but yeah agree TY needs ghosts, I would say a ground component like thors as well but acually with that many vipers they could just be abducted. Same for ghosts exccept the ghosts can snipe the overseers and cloak so ghosts best and yeah...just the best late game unit imo in the game.Im protoss player.
Thors are actually worse against infestors than BCs are.
Alone they are but if there is mass lib/tank/Viking support thore are FAR better. Also Zerg has nothing like corrupts that hard counter thors like they do bcs.
never thought about it, but creep mechanics allows zerg to delay a bit more bases to other races. Serral can kill and take bases quicker than T, who needs to clear creep and wait until creep dissapears.
On July 01 2019 02:07 Quasarrion wrote: Serral cant beat top terrans in lategame?
There's maybe 1 person on the planet that can and that guy still curses on stream when Maru starts sniping hia infestors.
wut? and whu?
As if it's not obvious that would be Dark.
you mean Dark is the only one that can beat Maru/TY lategame. As it should be - only top players can beat other top players. Pretty sure other Zergs can beat Keen's/alive's Heromarine's lategame
So Serral is not even a top player? That's frankly embarassing, "here you lost all of your credibility".
Serral in 2018 was stronger than he is nowadays, but surely he can lose series without necessarily playing bad.
We're talking about TvZ lategame here in which Serral has barely any practice vs top players. This should be self-explanatory but no wonder you get offended immediately.
but Serral is winning this vs TY
Yes, because TY is playing terribly. He is not exactly well renown for being the best late game TvZ, and this game he is even playing with a bad composition. Dark would have crushed him like 10 minutes ago.
What are you smoking super late game is literally what TY is known for. The only other terran that is equal or better to him at it is Maru and maaaaaaaaaaybe innovation
I disagree. TY is known for his tactical play, insane multitasking, and cheese defense. Inno, Maru and Dark have better mechanics so they are a lot better at late game TvZ. Just go look up Aligulac. Dark is like 20:7 against TY I think? That's speaks for itself.
On July 01 2019 02:11 Elentos wrote: [quote] As if it's not obvious that would be Dark.
you mean Dark is the only one that can beat Maru/TY lategame. As it should be - only top players can beat other top players. Pretty sure other Zergs can beat Keen's/alive's Heromarine's lategame
So Serral is not even a top player? That's frankly embarassing, "here you lost all of your credibility".
Serral in 2018 was stronger than he is nowadays, but surely he can lose series without necessarily playing bad.
We're talking about TvZ lategame here in which Serral has barely any practice vs top players. This should be self-explanatory but no wonder you get offended immediately.
but Serral is winning this vs TY
Yes, because TY is playing terribly. He is not exactly well renown for being the best late game TvZ, and this game he is even playing with a bad composition. Dark would have crushed him like 10 minutes ago.
What are you smoking super late game is literally what TY is known for. The only other terran that is equal or better to him at it is Maru and maaaaaaaaaaybe innovation
With mass landed vikings and air only? What are you smoking?
Not saying TY chose a good strategy this game but saying TY is not known for his late game is stupid.
I like what Solar said - this is a built that if unscouted is an auto win for terran, and if scouted it's really hard in the lategame. serral had good scouting
Serral won by the scout 30 minutes ago and you're defending him because of this game... again, what are you smoking?
but Serral didn't win yet, you know why? cuz TY is great at late game (and mid game), get it in your thick skull buddy. If TY was a lesser Terran Serral would've killed him already, what does that tell you about TY's Macro and late game?
On July 01 2019 02:11 Elentos wrote: [quote] As if it's not obvious that would be Dark.
you mean Dark is the only one that can beat Maru/TY lategame. As it should be - only top players can beat other top players. Pretty sure other Zergs can beat Keen's/alive's Heromarine's lategame
So Serral is not even a top player? That's frankly embarassing, "here you lost all of your credibility".
Serral in 2018 was stronger than he is nowadays, but surely he can lose series without necessarily playing bad.
We're talking about TvZ lategame here in which Serral has barely any practice vs top players. This should be self-explanatory but no wonder you get offended immediately.
but Serral is winning this vs TY
Yes, because TY is playing terribly. He is not exactly well renown for being the best late game TvZ, and this game he is even playing with a bad composition. Dark would have crushed him like 10 minutes ago.
What are you smoking super late game is literally what TY is known for. The only other terran that is equal or better to him at it is Maru and maaaaaaaaaaybe innovation
With mass landed vikings and air only? What are you smoking?
Not saying TY chose a good strategy this game but saying TY is not known for his late game is stupid.
I like what Solar said - this is a built that if unscouted is an auto win for terran, and if scouted it's really hard in the lategame. serral had good scouting
Saying TY is bad at late game is like saying sOs is known for his macro and Rain is known for his cheese play. It's just objectively wrong. Just ask Tastosis about TY's late game
Never said he is bad at lategame lol. He is just not on the level of Maru and Inno. Plus this game he is playing with a terrible strategy, which doesn't help either
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