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On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations.
Yeah mine too, always expect protoss to advance =D
Only had time to watch some of the PvP games so cant say much about these games but the results keeps worrying me. Also so sad soO vs Classic straight away, those are my favorites in this bracket and one of them has to go. What a hypeless GSL season
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man, if Special had made a couple of widow mines or even a third cyclone instead of a siege tank in that second game he would've been fine, those phoenix stole an easy easy win
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On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations.
Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green
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On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green
The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player.
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On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green
Yeah, suddenly out of nowhere we have heavy Protoss GSL ST, heavy Protoss GSL Code S, no Terran IEM, just a coincidence, all the Protoss are just better players. Where did I hear that the last time, hmmm
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On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player.
Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group.
You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....
herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue.......
So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing.
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On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea
To clarify, he didn't "consider" transfering to Circuit. As far as I'm aware he tried (and is probably still trying?) for over a year and was unable to despite PsiStorm's support.
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On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing.
Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously.
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Certain players just became better in 2019: Trap is finally looking like top tier, Patience is back to his 2016 levels and Ragnarok totally stepped up his play, I doubt he still wants to go to the Circuit considering he seems ready to win korean titles(he just has to improve his ZvP but it's not a problem he, alone, is experimenting); Bunny seemed to have a similar evolution but he has recently regressed, Fantasy is slowly improving.
On the other hand, Zest has been subpar in offline tournaments this year while TY and Rogue disappeared in the last two months.
From Super Tournament onwards, however, Protoss have been overperforming in GSL(at the very least, they jumped ahead of the meta in PvZ); that's mostly due to PartinG's resurgence and Hurricane's rise; the latter might be suspicious considering Hurrican's absymal winrate in PvP.
Expecting four Protoss in ro8 this season was not unreasonable the moment Maru lost against Patience(after one year and half, I would say he's allowed to), we may very well have five after all, Dark and Inno are not weaklings.
Warp Prism's range pickup most likely needs to be tweaked but at worst this would be the second consecutive GSL tournament with an overabundance of Protoss in the final bracket(and maybe a Protoss victory), we have seen worse situations in the past.
This mass hysteria is partly due to fact people love to hate Protoss in general: "balance is temporary, whining is eternal".
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On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously.
What.. Maru made it to ro4 and ro8 in 2017
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On May 30 2019 00:09 Xain0n wrote:
Certain players just became better in 2019: Trap is finally looking like top tier, Patience is back to his 2016 levels and Ragnarok totally stepped up his play, I doubt he still wants to go to the Circuit considering he seems ready to win korean titles(he just has to improve his ZvP but it's not a problem he, alone, is experimenting); Bunny seemed to have a similar evolution but he has recently regressed, Fantasy is slowly improving.
On the other hand, Zest has been subpar in offline tournaments this year while TY and Rogue disappeared in the last two months.
From Super Tournament onwards, however, Protoss have been overperforming in GSL(at the very least, they jumped ahead of the meta in PvZ); that's mostly due to PartinG's resurgence and Hurricane's rise; the latter might be suspicious considering Hurrican's absymal winrate in PvP.
Expecting four Protoss in ro8 this season was not unreasonable the moment Maru lost against Patience(after one year and half, I would say he's allowed to), we may very well have five after all, Dark and Inno are not weaklings.
Warp Prism's range pickup most likely needs to be tweaked but at worst this would be the second consecutive GSL tournament with an overabundance of Protoss in the final bracket(and maybe a Protoss victory), we have seen worse situations in the past.
This mass hysteria is partly due to fact people love to hate Protoss in general: "balance is temporary, whining is eternal".
This guy gets it. Thumbs up
Some players get better, some player declines (due to age).
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On May 30 2019 00:14 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously. What.. Maru made it to ro4 and ro8 in 2017
So? Neeb went to RO4, and people on TL try to dismiss that accomplishment. So when Maru does it, it's great?
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On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously.
What o_o
I never said Trap is a scrub, I'm a fan of Trap, his play recently has been great, that doesn't mean him topping his group is an obvious expected result.
Do you even read the comment i replied to? He was saying all the protoss were exptected to move on because they are superior players than the zergs and terrans in their group. I simply disagree with that, Trap, Hurricane and herO were not clear favorites to move on. That was all I said, that a player isn't a favorite to move on from a group doesn't equal me calling them a scrub...... Please elaborate your agument.
Also the kid had actually already gotten a double crown before 2018, both an OSL and SSL championship as well as (unlike Trap whom never made RO8 and still isn't a scrub) three GSL seminfinals appearences.
Edit: In response to your latest post, Neebs semifinals in GSL is a huge achivement, who the hell is downplaying that. He is the third foreigner to ever manage such a feat, to me (a GSL elitist, you might say) comparable to his kespa cup victory.
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On May 30 2019 00:17 NbaLover wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2019 00:14 Need wrote:On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously. What.. Maru made it to ro4 and ro8 in 2017 So? Neeb went to RO4, and people on TL try to dismiss that accomplishment. So when Maru does it, it's great?
Ah, you're trolling
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On May 30 2019 00:17 NbaLover wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2019 00:14 Need wrote:On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously. What.. Maru made it to ro4 and ro8 in 2017 So? Neeb went to RO4, and people on TL try to dismiss that accomplishment. So when Maru does it, it's great?
Maru was the best player in proleague, he also won his GSLs when all the other terrans managed to win 3 bananas, a handshake and 5 dollars of prize pool, unlike all the toss players winning everything left and right nowadays.
Jesus, the shite I have to read.
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On May 30 2019 00:09 Xain0n wrote:
We have seen worse situations in the past.
This mass hysteria is partly due to fact people love to hate Protoss in general: "balance is temporary, whining is eternal".
Thats the point, when was the last time we some it to this level?
2014 Blink era
2011 GomTvT (yes not even BL/Infestor went to these levels)
Don't talk like balance like this is super common, because its not, and just because it happened before doesn't mean we should repeat the same past mistakes.
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In the GSL Super Tournament, there were 7 of 8 Protoss players in the Round of 8. Never in the history of SC2 or even BW, for a premier Korean tournament, were there 7 players of the same race in the Round of 8.
Now there will be at least 5 Protoss players in the Round of 8 for this GSL. Unfortunately, this is not very good for viewership.
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On May 30 2019 00:09 Xain0n wrote:
we have seen worse situations in the past.
No we have not. As I mentioned already, in the GSL Super Tournament, there were 7 of 8 Protoss players in the Round of 8. Never in the history of SC2 or even BW, for a premier Korean tournament, were there 7 players of the same race in the Round of 8.
And competitive professional BW tournaments in Korea go back to 1999.
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On May 30 2019 00:18 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously. What o_o I never said Trap is a scrub, I'm a fan of Trap, his play recently has been great, that doesn't mean him topping his group is an obvious expected result. Do you even read the comment i replied to? He was saying all the protoss were exptected to move on because they are superior players than the zergs and terrans in their group. I simply disagree with that, Trap, Hurricane and herO were not clear favorites to move on. That was all I said, that a player isn't a favorite to move on from a group doesn't equal me calling them a scrub...... Please elaborate your agument. Also the kid had actually already gotten a double crown before 2018, both an OSL and SSL championship as well as (unlike Trap whom never made RO8 and still isn't a scrub) three GSL seminfinals appearences.
Oh so now other championships BESIDES GSL mean something? Or does that only work when we talk about any Terran players? For the past year didn't most korean elitist dumped on all of serral's accomplishment outside of GSL?
I believe most people had herO and Trap as the favorites out of the group. No one was too surprised by it. I think more people would have been surprised if Special got out of the group in first.
Hurricane really? Worst case it was a coin flip between him and Rag. Fantasy has no business advancing to RO8 and I was cheering for him too.
Don't know why terran's just cant accept that as of right now, there are just more toss players that are just better than terran players.
Zerg haven't won jack in GSL for years, but we don't see them complaining and crying about balance as much as terrans.
When a average Terran player upset a top Zerg/Toss.
Terran defense "he played BAD! had an OFF day. But Toss and zerg still Op!" (I.e Stats losing in RO32)
When the opposite happens. Terran tear army "demands nerf for other races and buff for terrans, etc etc"
Let's all be honest here, Maru entered the s2 scene at a very very young age. Maru winning these GSLs were simply because the other top korean pros are declining and not in their prime anymore. If you can't at least see this fact, I don't know what to say to you
I personally rank Innovation above him
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On May 30 2019 00:44 NbaLover wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2019 00:18 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 30 2019 00:06 NbaLover wrote:On May 29 2019 23:32 Shuffleblade wrote:On May 29 2019 23:08 Boggyb wrote:On May 29 2019 22:48 Need wrote:On May 29 2019 22:26 JoeCool wrote:On May 29 2019 21:58 showstealer1829 wrote:
Yet another flawless group for Glorious Protoss Master Race Is this really because they are protoss or were they the better players? Unfortunately I can't watch GSl this season but so far the results kinda line up with my expectations. Really? How many of the current RO8 Protoss players are in their first RO8 for a long time/ever? Did they all simultaneously improve on the most recent patch? The results line up with my expectations only because I've adjusted my expectations to expect lots of green The only real "Protoss OP" result we've seen in the ro16 is Parting winning group B and it is counteracted by Dear going 0-4. Hurricane getting out of Group A doesn't apply since RagnaroK is a player who was considering joining the WCS Circuit because he was getting no results in Korea and FanTaSy is just out of retirement and was never a top player. Well RO32 had Patience taking out Maru and Inno to top his group. You make it sound like all we have seen are expected results, you know Trap has been playing GSL since 2012 and he has NEVER made ro8 until this year. Yeah sure, Trap was obvious pick for first in his group into ro8.....herO recently came back to sc2 and is rusty, expecting him to easily win as if its exptected is not for sure either. Sure he's posted good results so its not surprising but if he wasn't protoss he wouldn't really be especially favored in the group. Just to be clear, I hope you consider that Impact topped his group against Zest, Gumiho and Trust, its not like he got out of an easy group. And that both Special and Ragnarok got here knocking out TY and sOs, not easy opponents either, you make it sound like Ragnarok, SpeCial and Fantasy lucked out by beating Armani or something to get to RO16. Fantasy moved on by defeating Leenock and Rogue....... So to summarize we have multiple up and coming (back and coming) zerg/terran players that are seriously posting good results, like defeating TY, sOs, Zest and Gumiho. The same can be said for the protoss players, Hurricane defeated Solar to move on and Parting took down Cure. But for some reason its seems its always the protoss players that win out, over and over again multiple tournaments in a row. AfreecaPvP should be a thing. Lol based on this argument against Trap. I guess Maru is a scrub as well. The kid has won nothing in GSL until last year and all a sudden he wins 4 straight GSL. But the terran fan army will say "Maru GOAT". That is why majority of fans/players don't take Terrna fanboys opinion seriously. What o_o I never said Trap is a scrub, I'm a fan of Trap, his play recently has been great, that doesn't mean him topping his group is an obvious expected result. Do you even read the comment i replied to? He was saying all the protoss were exptected to move on because they are superior players than the zergs and terrans in their group. I simply disagree with that, Trap, Hurricane and herO were not clear favorites to move on. That was all I said, that a player isn't a favorite to move on from a group doesn't equal me calling them a scrub...... Please elaborate your agument. Also the kid had actually already gotten a double crown before 2018, both an OSL and SSL championship as well as (unlike Trap whom never made RO8 and still isn't a scrub) three GSL seminfinals appearences. Oh so now other championships BESIDES GSL mean something? Or does that only work when we talk about any Terran players? For the past year didn't most korean elitist dumped on all of serral's accomplishment outside of GSL? I believe most people had herO and Trap as the favorites out of the group. No one was too surprised by it. I think more people would have been surprised if Special got out of the group in first. Hurricane really? Worst case it was a coin flip between him and Rag. Fantasy has no business advancing to RO8 and I was cheering for him too. Don't know why terran's just cant accept that as of right now, there are just more toss players that are just better than terran players. Zerg haven't won jack in GSL for years, but we don't see them complaining and crying about balance as much as terrans. When a average Terran player upset a top Zerg/Toss. Terran defense "he played BAD! had an OFF day. But Toss and zerg still Op!" (I.e Stats losing in RO32) When the opposite happens. Terran tear army "demands nerf for other races and buff for terrans, etc etc" Let's all be honest here, Maru entered the s2 scene at a very very young age. Maru winning these GSLs were simply because the other top korean pros are declining and not in their prime anymore. If you can't at least see this fact, I don't know what to say to you I personally rank Innovation above him
So just to be clear, you're saying the Protoss players improved and are just better players but Maru, who joined the scene at a young age, is only good because people are declining? It couldn't possibly be that a young player improves over time especially when most of the Koreans at that time were mostly veterans from BW.
I wonder what your previous account was and when it got banned.
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