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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On June 06 2019 14:30 Anc13nt wrote: I think he's probably in top 15 but winning 2 Blizzcon is not as impressive as winning 6 Starleagues as Maru did. sOs is easily top 3 1. Maru/Inno 2. Maru/Inno 3. sOs 4. Zest 5. Life 6. Mvp 7. soO 8. Stats 9. Classic 10. herO | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18002 Posts
On June 06 2019 16:53 Charoisaur wrote: sOs is easily top 3 1. Maru/Inno 2. Maru/Inno 3. sOs 4. Zest 5. Life 6. Mvp 7. soO 8. Stats 9. Classic 10. herO Your list is wrong | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18002 Posts
On June 06 2019 17:25 Harris1st wrote: Sorry MVP, Stephano is just the greatest baller or all time xD Yeah. I wanted to vote for him too, but we're looking for the greatest player, not the greatest baller. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
My list is correct | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18002 Posts
We had this discussion about 5 pages ago. You're still wrong  | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
On June 06 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: Yeah. I wanted to vote for him too, but we're looking for the greatest player, not the greatest baller. I must have missread the OP by "accident" xD On June 06 2019 16:53 Charoisaur wrote: sOs is easily top 3 1. Taeja 2. Taeja 3. Taeja 4. Taeja 5. Taeja 6. Taeja 7. Taeja 8. Taeja 9. Taeja 10. Taeja Fixed that for you  | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Not even discussing the ranking, it's subjective; however, no Taeja or MC? Meh. sOs seems pretty out of place too judging by your own standards, you value Code S so much and then give the third spot to a guy who "only" lost two finals? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25419 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On June 06 2019 21:22 Xain0n wrote: Not even discussing the ranking, it's subjective; however, no Taeja or MC? Meh. sOs seems pretty out of place too judging by your own standards, you value Code S so much and then give the third spot to a guy who "only" lost two finals? I don't value Code S higher than Blizzcon/IEM Katowice out of which sOs has won 3. add his other results and his Proleague performance and there's not really another player you could place above him. TaeJa and MC have no significcant Proleague results which is a huge minus already and they have won only a few (In TaeJa's case 0) tournaments where all the best players in the world competed. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18002 Posts
On June 06 2019 21:58 Charoisaur wrote: I don't value Code S higher than Blizzcon/IEM Katowice out of which sOs has won 3. add his other results and his Proleague performance and there's not really another player you could place above him. TaeJa and MC have no significcant Proleague results which is a huge minus already and they have won only a few (In TaeJa's case 0) tournaments where all the best players in the world competed. You have Classic at 9 and Nestea at > 10. It's obviously wrong, lol. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On June 06 2019 21:58 Charoisaur wrote: I don't value Code S higher than Blizzcon/IEM Katowice out of which sOs has won 3. add his other results and his Proleague performance and there's not really another player you could place above him. TaeJa and MC have no significcant Proleague results which is a huge minus already and they have won only a few (In TaeJa's case 0) tournaments where all the best players in the world competed. Not really, I could see many; your tastes, anyway. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On June 06 2019 21:58 Charoisaur wrote: I don't value Code S higher than Blizzcon/IEM Katowice out of which sOs has won 3. add his other results and his Proleague performance and there's not really another player you could place above him. TaeJa and MC have no significcant Proleague results which is a huge minus already and they have won only a few (In TaeJa's case 0) tournaments where all the best players in the world competed. I mean TaeJa once ace a playoff bracket against Yughio-sOs-Life-INnovation mid 2013 (also beating Symbol and Avenge in group stage), I get that it's not a GSL with everyone but it has to count as the best in the world. On June 06 2019 12:14 Morbidius wrote: That would be amazing, i think everyone should post what they think were the best games of these fantastic players. Oh yes you should do that! | ||
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On June 06 2019 16:53 Charoisaur wrote: sOs is easily top 3 1. Maru/Inno 2. Maru/Inno 3. sOs 4. Zest 5. Life 6. Mvp 7. soO 8. Stats 9. Classic 10. herO sOs is definitely not top 3. Yeah he's double blizzcon champion and iem world champ, but a huge negative is that arguably even when he was winning these tournaments he was probably never the best player in the world. he just showed up and beasted some tournaments, but I don't think anyone would say he was the best player at the time. And even if you said "Ok, at that time he was the best" those times are sooo few and far between. Like 2-3 months total maybe. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On June 06 2019 16:53 Charoisaur wrote: sOs is easily top 3 1. Maru/Inno 2. Maru/Inno 3. sOs 4. Zest 5. Life 6. Mvp 7. soO 8. Stats 9. Classic 10. herO I'd move Mvp, Life, sOs and soO respectively to top 3-6 and put Stats and Zest at 7 and 8 respectively. I'd also put MC and Nestea at 9 and 10 respectively. Classic and herO I'd put at 11 and 12. I think Maru barely beats Inno too as best player. Edit: I swapped soO and sOs because sOs actually had a lot of silvers too. | ||
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RatzBarcode
United States98 Posts
On June 06 2019 16:53 Charoisaur wrote: sOs is easily top 3 1. Maru/Inno 2. Maru/Inno 3. sOs 4. Zest 5. Life 6. Mvp 7. soO 8. Stats 9. Classic 10. herO Taeja? you're ranking Zest and hero really high. MC or nestea? | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
MC is a protoss Puma who went around the world poaching foreign titles due to his very rich sponsors.it usually was a showmatch between him and the best foreigner, sometimes against another Korean. But what happens when you have to play top tier players? Taeja dumpstered him, Life dumpstered him, even Sacsri dumpstered him.His GSL wins came at a time when most of his workload was killing Terrans who only got far due to PvZ imbalance (Hi Jinro! And Terran Rain). MC was never the greatest at handing players at their best, but god knows he knew how to wipe out weaker opposition. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 07 2019 15:34 Morbidius wrote: Very controversial opinion coming, i might use some strong words to get to the point: MC is one of the most overrated Players in SC2 history. MC is a protoss Puma who went around the world poaching foreign titles due to his very rich sponsors.it usually was a showmatch between him and the best foreigner, sometimes against another Korean. But what happens when you have to play top tier players? Taeja dumpstered him, Life dumpstered him, even Sacsri dumpstered him.His GSL wins came at a time when most of his workload was killing Terrans who only got far due to PvZ imbalance (Hi Jinro! And Terran Rain). MC was never the greatest at handing players at their best, but god knows he knew how to wipe out weaker opposition. I mean you're wrong, but I'm more interested in what "terrans who only got far due to PvZ imbalance" even means and why you think Jinro and Rain fall into that category. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25419 Posts
On June 07 2019 15:34 Morbidius wrote: Very controversial opinion coming, i might use some strong words to get to the point: MC is one of the most overrated Players in SC2 history. MC is a protoss Puma who went around the world poaching foreign titles due to his very rich sponsors.it usually was a showmatch between him and the best foreigner, sometimes against another Korean. But what happens when you have to play top tier players? Taeja dumpstered him, Life dumpstered him, even Sacsri dumpstered him.His GSL wins came at a time when most of his workload was killing Terrans who only got far due to PvZ imbalance (Hi Jinro! And Terran Rain). MC was never the greatest at handing players at their best, but god knows he knew how to wipe out weaker opposition. Muh BossToss  ‘Twas a different time and era, I have a hard time balancing innovation from execution in RTS games. MC and Nestea mapped out stuff that would eventually be incorporated into standard play and have that aspect to their legacy over a hell of a lot of other players. | ||
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