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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
April 07 2019 12:16 GMT
#221
On April 07 2019 17:57 Elentos wrote:
People who don't vote for RorO are factually wrong btw.


That group has Has, objectively the best player in not only this group, but any group, ever.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
April 07 2019 12:28 GMT
#222
Marineking was the greatest discussion over thanks for stopping by.
ok
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 07 2019 13:48 GMT
#223
On April 07 2019 17:57 Elentos wrote:
People who don't vote for RorO are factually wrong btw.

True, one of the forgotten GSL champions.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 13:58:13
April 07 2019 13:56 GMT
#224
Guys, vote for Thorzain for winning one of the greatest tournaments ever, TSL3!

Who can forget that final game?? Chill get out!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 14:01:10
April 07 2019 13:59 GMT
#225
Guys, vote for RorO for winning one of the greatest tournaments ever, GSL 2013 Season 1!

Who can forget that final game?? Chill get out!


Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
April 07 2019 14:12 GMT
#226
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7033 Posts
April 07 2019 14:23 GMT
#227
On April 07 2019 22:59 Charoisaur wrote:
Guys, vote for RorO for winning one of the greatest tournaments ever, GSL 2013 Season 1!

Who can forget that final game?? Chill get out!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCUflLNuNj0&t=242s


That is one of the ugliest things I have ever seen
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18193 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 14:25:45
April 07 2019 14:23 GMT
#228
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point, whereas Thorzain was the foreigner hope and brought us many great moments!

Best of which was, of course, his TSL 3 victory, but he also won Dreamhack, and was the first foreigner to win a match in Proleague (for you Korean elitists where nothing outside Korea counts) in god knows how long, and was MVP of the league.

As for skill, I can only find a single match between them, in an MLG invitational. And it was a 1-1 draw. So that's a wash. Chill get out!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
April 07 2019 14:32 GMT
#229
ThorZain > Roro easily.
Wasn’t Roro only relevant during the PatchZerg era?
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
April 07 2019 14:35 GMT
#230
I don't think skin color should be factored in when judging greatness.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 14:40:52
April 07 2019 14:37 GMT
#231
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18193 Posts
April 07 2019 14:51 GMT
#232
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol

So did Sniper. What's your point?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
April 07 2019 14:59 GMT
#233
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol


Every tournament has a winner, but not every tournament has Has.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 15:10:18
April 07 2019 15:02 GMT
#234
On April 07 2019 23:51 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol

So did Sniper. What's your point?

How are you not the best Zerg player in the world if you beat Life, MC, smash Taeja (who had eliminated Soulkey) and Symbol?
People act like RorO's GSL win was a patchzerg fluke, but he played better Starcraft than anyone else at the time (at least better than any other Zerg).
How can you even fucking say that the guy who won the hardest tournament on the planet, with all the best players participating was not the best player of his race? It takes some amazing mental gymnastic skills to justify that, and I simply can't wrap my head around it.

If RorO beats the best ZvZ player, the best TvZ player (arguably, he defeated Mvp and TaeJa, but sadly didn't get to play INnoVation) and one of the strongest PvZers in the history of the game (MC), to then take the tournament where all the best players in the world compete, how is he not at least the best player OF HIS RACE?
Unless all Zergs were terrible and carried by brood lord/infestor, and the one that was "the best" is your fan favorite, by some obscure personal metric, then it might not be RorO


If you want to recap yourself a GSL run from back when every Korean played the tournament (including "the runners" like MC and Taeja) and even Code A was stacked with massive talent (Rain didn't even make it to code S), you can go through RorO's GSL run here:
(Wiki)2013 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code S

edit:
and all of the above is obviously irrelevant to the fact that RorO also acted as Samsung KHAN's ace player in Proleague up until his retirement
truly, a WoL-only relevant foreigner was the better, more accomplished player
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
April 07 2019 15:46 GMT
#235
On April 07 2019 23:51 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol

So did Sniper. What's your point?

I also voted Sniper. People are unfairly discrediting their victories just because they happened to be in an era where Zerg was arguably slightly stronger than the other races.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 07 2019 16:58 GMT
#236
Noo elfi
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 18:44:46
April 07 2019 18:36 GMT
#237
On April 08 2019 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:51 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol

So did Sniper. What's your point?

I also voted Sniper. People are unfairly discrediting their victories just because they happened to be in an era where Zerg was arguably slightly stronger than the other races.

''slightly''. 55% winrate in both matchups and 2 ZvZ finals in a row @GSL. Even so, Roro GSL win is bigger than anything Thorzain has done, be it with or without infestor broodlord. Anyway neither of them are even close to the top 32 so its barely worth discussing. I wonder if the OP picked too many players, some of these polls just have objectively right and wrong answers. I think the same amount of polls with a selection of 32 players could have yield better results. I mean, who the fuck would vote for Yonghwa or Bly over Dear and Rogue? I can't imagine someone doing that even if they were on crack.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 07 2019 18:51 GMT
#238
Swap soO's first and second places and he is easily GOAT. (this will be true with Stats soon too)
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 07 2019 20:45 GMT
#239
On April 08 2019 03:36 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:51 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol

So did Sniper. What's your point?

I also voted Sniper. People are unfairly discrediting their victories just because they happened to be in an era where Zerg was arguably slightly stronger than the other races.

''slightly''. 55% winrate in both matchups and 2 ZvZ finals in a row @GSL. Even so, Roro GSL win is bigger than anything Thorzain has done, be it with or without infestor broodlord. Anyway neither of them are even close to the top 32 so its barely worth discussing. I wonder if the OP picked too many players, some of these polls just have objectively right and wrong answers. I think the same amount of polls with a selection of 32 players could have yield better results. I mean, who the fuck would vote for Yonghwa or Bly over Dear and Rogue? I can't imagine someone doing that even if they were on crack.


I'm even more curious for the one who voted for Sound, someone who has never won a single GSL match, not even a single code A match.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
April 07 2019 21:16 GMT
#240
On April 08 2019 05:45 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:36 Morbidius wrote:
On April 08 2019 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:51 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:37 Ej_ wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
On April 07 2019 23:12 Durnuu wrote:
RorO is literally 10x the player Thorzain was

Didn't we *just* establish that Idra got voted not necessarily based on quality, but because of what he meant to the scene? So regardless of RorO's actual skill... he was never even remotely the best zerg at any point

he won a GSL lol

So did Sniper. What's your point?

I also voted Sniper. People are unfairly discrediting their victories just because they happened to be in an era where Zerg was arguably slightly stronger than the other races.

''slightly''. 55% winrate in both matchups and 2 ZvZ finals in a row @GSL. Even so, Roro GSL win is bigger than anything Thorzain has done, be it with or without infestor broodlord. Anyway neither of them are even close to the top 32 so its barely worth discussing. I wonder if the OP picked too many players, some of these polls just have objectively right and wrong answers. I think the same amount of polls with a selection of 32 players could have yield better results. I mean, who the fuck would vote for Yonghwa or Bly over Dear and Rogue? I can't imagine someone doing that even if they were on crack.


I'm even more curious for the one who voted for Sound, someone who has never won a single GSL match, not even a single code A match.

Yeah. Can only be a troll vote, with 128 players competing there are clearly ''wrong'' answers which makes a lot of these polls silly.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
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