EPT[GSL 2018] Season 3 - Grand Finals - Page 38
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote: Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking? difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5. But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals. There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:56 BaneRiders wrote: Maru in 10 years or so: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/M0nSFzI.png) Hopefully there's still enough tournaments around in Korea for him to win ;; | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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jjmmtt
Australia995 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:59 Inflicted wrote: KeeN and Classic only players to take a series of Maru this year in Code S KeeN the goat | ||
hexhaven
Finland931 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote: difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5. But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals. There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS. Counterpoint ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/fmSSASx.jpg) | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote: difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5. But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals. There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS. I'm not saying that Serral is definitely better than those names you listed....but Serral did beat Stats and Dark in GSL v the World. And he beat Rogue in IEM Katowice. He has shown that he can beat top Koreans. | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:50 Psychonian wrote: I just cant see rogue as a better zerg than serral the sample size is still only one single tournament. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On September 15 2018 20:00 Kommander wrote: I'm not saying that Serral is definitely better than those names you listed....but Serral did beat Stats and Dark in GSL v the World. And he beat Rogue in IEM Katowice. He has shown that he can beat top Koreans. ofc that's why I said he is around the same level. But from reading the comments here and listening to Artosis hype it feels a lot of people think he's much better than those guys. | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote: Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru. Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote: difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5. But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals. There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS. Well he did beat Stats and Dark recently at GSL vs the world and crushed Inno who had just crushed Rogue. But yeah I 2-5 is reasonable, there is certainly not enough data vs Koreans. I still put him at 2 though. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
only Inno in the way now | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
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Penev
28481 Posts
Doesn't count, he used a spine | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
I'm aware but it's only 1 tournament. top koreans trade series with each other all the time, it proves he's around the same level as them but not that he's clearly standing above them. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon. | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote: There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon. Serral is not "just a foreigner". Plus TvZ is incredibly difficult on the new maps since the raven nerf | ||
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Melix
United States89 Posts
Winning three series against Koreans like that is essentially the equivalent of winning one GSL Round of 16 and then winning a quarterfinal. And since Stats went up 3-2 in that match it's not even that. | ||
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