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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Poll: Who Advances?Stats & sOs (18) 38% TY & Stats (15) 32% sOs & TY (7) 15% Keen & Stats (3) 6% Keen & TY (2) 4% sOs & Keen (2) 4% 47 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Stats & sOs (Vote): Keen & TY (Vote): TY & Stats (Vote): sOs & Keen (Vote): Keen & Stats (Vote): sOs & TY
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I think sOs comes last in this group, stats gets out for sure, TvT decider between Keen and TY.
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On August 23 2018 17:30 Zaros wrote: I think sOs comes last in this group, stats gets out for sure, TvT decider between Keen and TY. Probably. Bet on Keen / TY for the giggles.
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i just want good games... and TY and Stats to get to ro8
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Keen hasn't been to a ro8 since 2011...like before ro16 groups were even a thing. It'd be crazy if he somehow made it
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Stats raising the bar for sOs already.
edit: sOs would have sent a second probe in so that the scouting probe doesn't show up at a suspicious time. But this is working out for Stats anyways.
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Stats the best macro/defensive toss feeling that cheddar today.
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Repeat cheese. But KeeN has to be suspicious with the identical late probe timing.
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RIP Terrans on ladder facing this build
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Keen didn't need to bring along the tank to take out that proxy gate....
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Stats had a small edge out of the opening despite the insta-scout by KeeN (before he even caught out all those units at the gateway). It really shows the gap between these two.
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Might be wrong, but without looking at aligulac I feel like sOs is TY's worst nemesis
every encounter I can remember, sOs spanks him
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On August 25 2018 13:38 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Might be wrong, but without looking at aligulac I feel like sOs is TY's worst nemesis
every encounter I can remember, sOs spanks him
I did look at aligulac and it says:
–20 Dark –15 herO –8 INnoVation –7 sOs –7 PartinG
TY has lots of quite bad nemeses. He's no INnoVation in that respect (though he isn't at the level of Bly either).
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Can we get some not cheese please?
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The scv drill was just perfect
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rofl, everyone is in a hurry today
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Terran cheese = OMG GENIUS GOD
Protoss cheese = OMG PROTOSS
I kid, I kid
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This is getting quite funny.
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What the hell was TY's plan, though?
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On August 25 2018 13:45 SaffronSage wrote: What the hell was TY's plan, though?
Fake proxy to hide tech and get sOs to freak out. MaSa did ten games of alternating real and fake proxies in WCS NA last season if you want to see how it can work out.
But it didn't work out too well this game. Can't bamboozle the master bamboozler.
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On August 25 2018 13:38 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Might be wrong, but without looking at aligulac I feel like sOs is TY's worst nemesis
every encounter I can remember, sOs spanks him
So much for that
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TY outplayed sOs so hard :D
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Weird game. The game was pretty even until sOs decided not to build probes and whittle all his units away in attacks that did nothing. I don't get what he was trying to achieve by stopping at 48 probes.
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Sc2 is turning into Red Alert.
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Everyone is trying to top each other for the worst ro16 group xD
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Another game another proxy
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We're only 5/5 for proxies. We could be at 10/5.
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I think I can officially date my StarCraft 2 knowledge with saying that I thought cyclones were still tech lab units
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Proxy shenanigans not working against Stats, surprise surprise
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I like how TY's anti-disruptor instincts make him sacrifice an SCV to detonate the nova despite the fact that it's going to time-out and that there's nothing else in range.
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These ro16 groups feel straight out of 2011 for some reason
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Has GSL been calling the map "Blue Shift" rather than "Blueshift" the entire round?
And yeah! Another proxy.
And Stats finds it instantly because he was going to proxy something there too
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TY needs to win. I sense funkiller Stats getting 1st and eliminating Leenock
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Can't blame TY, he knows he can't win in a straight up game against Stats.
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1) Why did TY build the barracks out there?
2) Why the hell did Stats scout for it so specifically?
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Distal is the word they're looking for
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On August 25 2018 14:18 theunabletable wrote: 1) Why did TY build the barracks out there?
2) Why the hell did Stats scout for it so specifically?
1) To hide it from scouting
2) I'd have to rewatch this, but I think Stats was thinking of aggressively proxying something there.
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On August 25 2018 14:18 theunabletable wrote: 1) Why did TY build the barracks out there?
2) Why the hell did Stats scout for it so specifically?
For your 2nd question, as someone already mentioned, Stats was probably gonna proxy at that spot but managed to see the rax by accident.
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wtf is with this group lol
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WAT A GAME edit: crazy Splyce on Splyce violence
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On August 25 2018 14:18 Kommander wrote: Can't blame TY, he knows he can't win in a straight up game against Stats.
I don't think any terran can, even Maru proxies 89% of his games.
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Fuck yeah. 8/7.
And TY is definitely the Korean MaSa (or the more Korean MaSa).
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On August 25 2018 14:26 SaffronSage wrote: MAKA RAX MAKA FACTORY
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On August 25 2018 14:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Fuck yeah. 8/7.
And TY is definitely the Korean MaSa (or more Korean MaSa).
Except this rax belonged to Maka 8 years ago
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Dustin Browder and Greg Black would be so proud. They've brought the Red Alert meta to SC2... it only took 8 years.
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On August 25 2018 14:28 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Fuck yeah. 8/7.
And TY is definitely the Korean MaSa (or more Korean MaSa). Except this rax belonged to Maka 8 years ago
Acknowledged. When I wrote that it hadn't gotten instantly scouted yet.
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The widow mines got me, I'm dying of laughter now
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Watch the group get weirder where sOs will play...normal o.o
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Four stalkers died to SCVs, this game is absurd.
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Good TY, you did your job. TY vs Leenock it is
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Somewhere in America, Idra lies awake, filled with furious rage but not understanding why
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Cyclone still best early game unit
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I don't understand how Stats lost at the point it was stalkers vs scvs
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Happy for TY advancing considering he got screwed out of the Masters Cup
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On August 25 2018 14:33 Fango wrote: I don't understand how Stats lost at the point it was stalkers vs scvs It turns out when you get surrounded and can't micro stalkers actually lose to SCVs.
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"I feel like the Non-Korean players are getting better"-TY 2018
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On August 25 2018 14:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:33 Fango wrote: I don't understand how Stats lost at the point it was stalkers vs scvs It turns out when you get surrounded and can't micro stalkers actually lose to SCVs. I think when you can't micro your stalkers they actually lose to basically everything.
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This music pretty much sums up the group
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No surprise then, when you have NoRegret as coach you end up playing weird stuff all the time.
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On August 25 2018 14:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:33 Fango wrote: I don't understand how Stats lost at the point it was stalkers vs scvs It turns out when you get surrounded and can't micro stalkers actually lose to SCVs. PartinG would have won that.
He's experienced in playing against stupid builds by practicing at 5K MMR as well. Truly ahead of the game.
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For the first time in ages, it's not #FuckTY
it's
#FuckEveryoneButTY
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On August 25 2018 14:33 SaffronSage wrote: Somewhere in America, Idra lies awake, filled with furious rage but not understanding why post of the day
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Rogue has a disgustingly easy path to the final now.
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On August 25 2018 14:44 Fango wrote: Rogue has a disgustingly easy path to the final now. I think TY is the opposite of easy but I guess there's also a chance Leenock reverse sweeps him.
Still, if Rogue doesn't make it past the Ro8 this season of all seasons, he is a cursed existence.
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sOs doesn't disappoint.
edit: Oh just a scout. Well we can hope for a later proxy.
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On August 25 2018 14:44 Fango wrote: Rogue has a disgustingly easy path to the final now.
Honestly wouldn't say that. Neeb is probably going to go down unless rogue has an off day, but TY is terrifying, and Leenock has some strong ZvZ IIRC
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On August 25 2018 14:46 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:44 Fango wrote: Rogue has a disgustingly easy path to the final now. I think TY is the opposite of easy but I guess there's also a chance Leenock reverse sweeps him. Still, if Rogue doesn't make it past the Ro8 this season of all seasons, he is a cursed existence. TY isn't usually an easy opponent. In a group stage I think him and Rogue are quite even. But in a ro4 I can't see him not breaking.
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On August 25 2018 14:47 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:46 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2018 14:44 Fango wrote: Rogue has a disgustingly easy path to the final now. I think TY is the opposite of easy but I guess there's also a chance Leenock reverse sweeps him. Still, if Rogue doesn't make it past the Ro8 this season of all seasons, he is a cursed existence. TY isn't usually an easy opponent. In a group stage I think him and Rogue are quite even. But in a ro4 I can't see him not breaking. I think TY first is still the worst result for Rogue from this group.
Meanwhile, 2 players looking like they might play a game of Starcraft.
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These are relatively normal builds from both and yet the end result fits in perfectly with the rest of this group.
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gdi i forgot we start earlier tonight. anyone feeling kind enough to sum up how the games have been thus far?
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Is this for the first time non-SC music in the background?
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On August 25 2018 14:51 litLikeBic wrote: gdi i forgot we start earlier tonight. anyone feeling kind enough to sum up how the games have been thus far?
Proxy-raxes or proxy-gateways in literally every single game before this one.
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On August 25 2018 14:49 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:47 Fango wrote:On August 25 2018 14:46 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2018 14:44 Fango wrote: Rogue has a disgustingly easy path to the final now. I think TY is the opposite of easy but I guess there's also a chance Leenock reverse sweeps him. Still, if Rogue doesn't make it past the Ro8 this season of all seasons, he is a cursed existence. TY isn't usually an easy opponent. In a group stage I think him and Rogue are quite even. But in a ro4 I can't see him not breaking. I think TY first is still the worst result for Rogue from this group. Stats would probably be harder. He doesn't choke in as many playoff matches as TY, to whom it seems to be a recurring theme.
In a random match however, I would agree that TY is a tougher opponent for him than Stats or sOs
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On August 25 2018 14:51 litLikeBic wrote: gdi i forgot we start earlier tonight. anyone feeling kind enough to sum up how the games have been thus far?
First 7 games were proxies, this (eight) one is first one without proxy
Stats vs KeeN - Stats onesidedly 2-0ed KeeN sOs vs TY - TY won convincingly, fun series, worth watching Stats vs TY - super fun series TY wins 2:1, watch vod for sure
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On August 25 2018 14:51 litLikeBic wrote: gdi i forgot we start earlier tonight. anyone feeling kind enough to sum up how the games have been thus far? This is the first game today where neither player built any production structures outside of their main base.
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On August 25 2018 14:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:51 litLikeBic wrote: gdi i forgot we start earlier tonight. anyone feeling kind enough to sum up how the games have been thus far? Proxy-raxes or proxy-gateways in literally every single game before this one. You also have do distinguish between real proxies and fake proxies.
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okies, thanks for catching me up
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On August 25 2018 14:55 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 14:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 25 2018 14:51 litLikeBic wrote: gdi i forgot we start earlier tonight. anyone feeling kind enough to sum up how the games have been thus far? Proxy-raxes or proxy-gateways in literally every single game before this one. You also have do distinguish between real proxies and fake proxies.
TY did do three fake proxies, but in one of the games he did the follow-up real proxy starport, and in another Stats also proxied, so those two still count as real proxy games. So we have one 'fake proxy' game to count.
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Despite the lack of (fake or real) proxies this game fit in pretty perfectly with the lack of this group.
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Oh and we're at 8 out of 9.
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Aaaaaand back to the proxy
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sOs placed the pylon correctly this time to prevent the wall-off.
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this is the funniest thing ive ever seen
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"I feel like I'm at a very weird circus right now"
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If PvT's like this, it'll be a treat to see what PvP is like.
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I don't think I've ever seen a GSL group like this ever
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We need sOs vs Stats to be cannon rush vs proxy robo or this group won't be complete tbh.
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I feel like no one is in control of this group and every single person is just along for the ride, including the players
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Reminder that at the beginning of the cast Artosis said something to the effect that "I feel like this group really has the potential to deliver the best games of the Ro16".
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Whatever version of Crawling in my Skin they're using is ear grating and painful
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Can you ever have too much cheese?
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On August 25 2018 15:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Reminder that at the beginning of the cast Artosis said something to the effect that "I feel like this group really has the potential to deliver the best games of the Ro16". These were the best of games, these were the worst of games.
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Honestly I'm just waiting for Tasteless and Artosis to start making jokes about owen wilson, that feels like where this is going
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This group is an irl response to the "why were early sc2 players so bad" thread.
edit: this entire ro16 is tbh
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On August 25 2018 15:12 Fango wrote: This group is an irl response to the "why were early sc2 players so bad" thread.
edit: this entire ro16 is tbh
The RO16 started with maru proxy 2raxing neeb and has only gone downhill from there
edit: or uphill, depending on how you look at it
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On August 25 2018 15:11 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Reminder that at the beginning of the cast Artosis said something to the effect that "I feel like this group really has the potential to deliver the best games of the Ro16". These were the best of games, these were the worst of games. this was the group of wisdom, this was the group of foolishness
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On August 25 2018 15:14 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:12 Fango wrote: This group is an irl response to the "why were early sc2 players so bad" thread.
edit: this entire ro16 is tbh The RO16 started with maru proxy 2raxing neeb and has only gone downhill from there edit: or uphill, depending on how you look at it I'm pretty sure from group A we went a bit uphill in B, slightly downhill again for C, then lost control and violently flew off a giant cliff today.
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Ok I am convinced that the GSL guy in charge of the music is actively trolling us
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On August 25 2018 15:14 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:12 Fango wrote: This group is an irl response to the "why were early sc2 players so bad" thread.
edit: this entire ro16 is tbh The RO16 started with maru proxy 2raxing neeb and has only gone downhill from there And everyone thought that group was a joke at the time. Unknowing it wasn't an anomaly, but a trendsetter.
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Looks I missed some dank shit. I'll watch the VODs for sure
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Gumiho, sOs, Dear, Trap, soO are all within 600 wcs points and fighting for rank 8.
sOs chances at blizzcon probably double, if not triple, should he win here.
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On August 25 2018 15:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:11 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2018 15:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Reminder that at the beginning of the cast Artosis said something to the effect that "I feel like this group really has the potential to deliver the best games of the Ro16". These were the best of games, these were the worst of games. this was the group of wisdom, this was the group of foolishness The foolishness part is certainly undeniable.
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"The most orthodox vs the most unorthodox" can we talk about how sOs has proxied the least buildings in this group
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On August 25 2018 15:19 Elentos wrote: "The most orthodox vs the most unorthodox" can we talk about how sOs has proxied the least buildings in this group So technically he is the most unorthodox, by the standards of this group at least.
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On August 25 2018 15:20 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:19 Elentos wrote: "The most orthodox vs the most unorthodox" can we talk about how sOs has proxied the least buildings in this group So technically he is the most unorthodox, by the standards of this group at least. sOs is always the weird one of the group, even if everyone else in the group is being weird
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On August 25 2018 15:20 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:19 Elentos wrote: "The most orthodox vs the most unorthodox" can we talk about how sOs has proxied the least buildings in this group So technically he is the most unorthodox, by the standards of this group at least.
I don't think this group comes down to orthodoxy, more to orthopraxy and orthoproxy.
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sOs could have just killed all the oracles with his pheonixes?
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Quick, we have 4 minutes to get this group done in under 2.5 hours!
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I can't remember the last time Stats lost a PvP series.
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Are cannon rushes still a thing?
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On August 25 2018 15:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Are cannon rushes still a thing?
I don't really think so but for the sake of this group I hope it happens
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On August 25 2018 15:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Are cannon rushes still a thing?
You definitely still see them from time to time especially in PvZ. The printf special of cannon rushes into proxying the rest of your stuff including a ton of shield batteries plus a robo for immortals has really come into its own this year with some pros busting it out. And Has has done a handful of PvT cannon rushes on Lost and Found recently.
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I hope sOs wins this game so we can go into a super crazy game 3 to cap off this group properly
edit: to be clear, i don't really care between these two who gets out of the group, i just want to see a proper conclusion to this absolute clusterfuck of a group
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Why would you leave three sentries as oracle defense...
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On August 25 2018 15:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Why would you leave three sentries as oracle defense... Hey it worked well against the hallucinated one
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Stats making six pylons at once lol
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"4 Guardian Shields! If you get a 5th one, you can make the Olympic rings with it...and then lose the game"
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On August 25 2018 15:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Why would you leave three sentries as oracle defense... He killed an oracle in the middle of the map so I don't think he expected there to still be 2.
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Imagine sOs counts on PVP and TY choke to get to the finals.
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On August 25 2018 15:37 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 15:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Why would you leave three sentries as oracle defense... He killed an oracle in the middle of the map so I don't think he expected there to still be 2.
Even so I don't think that makes leaving three sentries there sound like a good idea.
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On August 25 2018 15:38 yht9657 wrote: Imagine sOs counts on PVP and TY choke to get to the finals. Whoever wins this will be on the opposite side of the bracket from TY, playing Zest and then the winner of Maru vs Gumiho
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If sOs wins this game Zest is gonna make top 4 again, I swear. Favourable groups and brackets galore.
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sOs needs this win a lot more than Stats for Blizzcon.
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Stats, killed by standard adept and oracle play or something
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How is Stats in such a decent spot after that start.
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On August 25 2018 15:41 Durnuu wrote: Stats, killed by standard adept and oracle play or something Not as bad as game 2 though, so that's cool
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On August 25 2018 15:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote: How is Stats in such a decent spot after that start. sOs made 3 defensive batteries in his main instead of expanding, didn't work out very well I guess.
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Again, I can't remember the last time Stats lost a PvP series.
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Some poor positioning from sOs at the end there, shame :/
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On August 25 2018 15:51 Kommander wrote: Again, I can't remember the last time Stats lost a PvP series. In the all PvP group of Season 1. He lost to Trap then beat him in the decider match
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I think Stats qualified for Blizzcon with that win
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On August 25 2018 15:53 Inflicted wrote: I think Stats qualified for Blizzcon with that win
I'm a bit surprised that he wasn't guaranteed to qualify for Blizzcon previously.
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On August 25 2018 15:53 Inflicted wrote: I think Stats qualified for Blizzcon with that win He was already at 5775, with #9 being 3300. It would have taken an outragous scenario for him not to have made it. Like someone out of the top 8 winning Code S, TY making the final, Gumiho winning supertournament, and Dark getting 2nd in supertournament.
And Stats not scoring any more points this year.
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The Ro8 is now fully ex-KT vs Jin Air vs ex-FXO btw.
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did Tasteless just forget about Idra???
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GSL cheer french / girl
GSL Artosis ahh ah ahhh ahhhhh Artosis experiences the pain from stacraft units
GSL sos pose / music
GSL cheer girl
GSL maybe sos's body is falling aparat like JD
GSL TY interview
GSL Roti was right / audience
GSL you should write an article Tasteless about how Sos is washed up and Mvp would beat all of them
GSL Artosis that is some scarry stuff Tay Tay
GSL Artosis are u going to have time with the proxys?
GSL tastless the MacGyver napkin
GSL cheer art Sneak
GSL Artosis starcraft more possible games than atoms in chess board
GSL starcraft of proxy chicken
GSL today's sesame street letter is P for Proxy
GSL audience
GSL Artosis i hate gsl fans
GSL Artosis de-teched
GSL Tastelss boxy boxy with a "P" proxy proxy
GSL Sos is an alien and his fav alien-robot is Innovation
GSL Artosis waddup
GSL cheer boxr bois watching? baneling
GSL Tastosis the story of Artosis talking to Grubby
GSL muted stream coz tasteless
GSL Tasteless Starcraft Warcraft 3 MOBAS
GSL Stats interview
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Actually I'm not sure if Stats couldn't have qualified for blizzcon even if he lost here. The only player in the GSL ro8 outside top 8 in wcs is Leenock, and it's impossible for him and TY to both make the final.
Maybe if it was a Gumiho vs Leenock final, with Leenock winning. And TY winning supertournament, with Dark getting 2nd in it. And Stats not getting any more points. Then I think it would have been a tiebreaker between Gumiho and Stats for the 8th spot. Then Stats might not have qualified. That's the only scenario I can think of.
edit: as of what actually happened: Maru, Stats, Classic, Serral, and Rogue are 100% in. Everyone else is still maybe.
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On August 25 2018 16:37 sashkata wrote: Any recommended games? Either every game or none at all, this group is a package deal.
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Actually, why is Classic guaranteed for the Blizzcon spot? He didn't won anything this year, right? Even he lost the spot in Ro8 Code S Season 3.
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On August 25 2018 18:26 swarminfestor wrote: Actually, why is Classic guaranteed for the Blizzcon spot? He didn't won anything this year, right? Even he lost the spot in Ro8 Code S Season 3. He didn't win anything but his results overall this year were so strong that he has so many WCS points that he can't drop out of the top 8 anymore with the amount of events left.
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Fuck yeah TY and Stats as I predicted! Gogo TY blizzcon year
However 6am is very bad, why put Terrans in the 6am groups instead of leenock and Protoss?
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Quite a hilarious display of... well, I'm not too sure, but that was definitely a display of something, and that something was definitely worth watching.
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Definitely think TY's pretend proxy into SCV surround is the [amused shrug] game of this GSL so far
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Todays games were really something special.
Tasteless was hilarious.
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what a weird group
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On August 25 2018 19:05 Poopi wrote: Fuck yeah TY and Stats as I predicted! Gogo TY blizzcon year
However 6am is very bad, why put Terrans in the 6am groups instead of leenock and Protoss? good point, gsl should play favorites *eyeroll*
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