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Map Pool Group B![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4729.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2106.jpg)  Dark vs  GuMiho![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1099.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/663.jpg) Rogue vs INnoVationResults+ Show Spoiler [Matchlist] + CSS: FO-nTTaX Awesomeness: Panda Banner: GSL | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Poll: Who Advances? Rogue & Dark (19) INnoVation & Dark (18) Rogue & INnoVation (17) GuMiho & Rogue (12) GuMiho & Dark (12) INnoVation & GuMiho (5) 83 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Rogue & Dark | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
My liquidbets are gonna be ruined for sure. I voted for INnoVation but I feel like he can only disappoint this season. Serral is probably the best ZvT player in the world right now tho, so maybe INno has a shot in spite of his result at GSL vs The World | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Dark 1-2 GuMihoRogue 1-2 BogusGuMiho 2-0 BogusDark 1-2 RogueRogue 2-0 BogusMaru vs Rogue part 3! Les go | ||
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Ej_
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
GuMiho and Rogue will make it out, but I might want Rogue and Dark. | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
It's impossible for me to predict who's going to get out of this group haha. | ||
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
INnoVation & Dark are more likely to advance. Also I hope that Dark dosn't advance first, would hate to see him bop  Neeb again. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
On August 17 2018 03:39 starkiller123 wrote: I want the same just to see Neeb's redemption. Anyways I think Dark and Inno will make out of this group. I want Dark to get 1st just so he can smash Neeb yet again | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2889 Posts
Gumiho > Dark Rogue > Innovation Gumiho > Rogue Dark > Innovation Dark > Rogue Gumiho and Dark advance. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
Here's my guess at predictions: Dark 2-0 Gumiho Innovation 2-1 Rogue Dark 2-0 Innovation Rogue 2-1 Gumiho Rogue 2-1 Innovation Here's my heart's predictions (which in this group are totally possible, since anyone can make it out): Dark 2-0 Gumi Rogue 2-1 Inno Dark 2-1 Rogue Gumiho 2-0 Inno Gumiho 2-1 Rogue !!! I want Gumi to make it more than anyone else <3 I do think Dark is just a bit better than the rest of the players. | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1119 Posts
when gumi competes in an online tourna, he uses the opportunity to hammer out a specific build over and over, without the mystery of barcodes. for example, he played fastest possible banshee every game vs soo in olimoleague (delayed reactor, techlab pre-built, starport started on pre-built techlab). in the next cup, he tried 3cc ultra greedy, delayed hellbat / upgraded marine push every game. I think he does this in online cups to help inform his build choices when it matters in gsl. that's why they call him "the build master" | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 17 2018 06:56 Paljas wrote: People still doubting Rogue smh maybe i'm metagaming it by not voting for him since im so bad at this now | ||
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Rodya
546 Posts
Dark 2 - 0 GuMihoRogue 2 - 1 INnoVationRogue 2 - 0 DarkGuMiho 2 - 1 INnoVationDark 2 - 1 GuMihoTvZ is tough for Terran right now. If I'm wrong I think it will be because INnoVation beats Rogue in the first round of matches. In that case I think Rogue will make a run back through the two terran and advance anyway. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 17 2018 06:56 Paljas wrote: People still doubting Rogue smh Rogue performs well in every other tournament. GSL Season 1 - flop IEM Katowice - dominates Supertournament - flop GSL Season 2 - dominates GSL vs The World - flop So I guess he should dominate this GSL season, flop in supertournament, then win blizzcon. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
Dark 2-0 GuMihoRogue 2-1 INnoVationRogue 2-1 DarkINnoVation 2-0 GuMihoINnoVation 2-1 DarkI bet for Rogue and Innovation to advance from group B. Rogue I guess for 'maximum entertainment value', due to their back and forth record, I'd really like to see Rogue vs Neeb play and go to 4 games or even to all 5 games. Not Dark bopping Neeb 3-0 again. I say this, but then this also depends on which Neeb and which Rogue shows up on the day. If both of them show up on point, I think this is going to be a great series. Inno because it's freaking season 3 of GSL, so Inno bops people left and right. This makes the Ro8 that I hope to be: Maru vs Innovation Leenock vs TY Neeb vs Rogue Stats vs Zest | ||
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EEk1TwEEk
Russian Federation146 Posts
(Z)Dark 0-2 (T)GuMiho (Z)Rogue 2-0 (T)INnoVation (Z)Rogue 2-0 (Z)GuMiho (T)INnoVation 2-1 (T)Dark (T)INnoVation 1-2 (Z)GuMiho | ||
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ValM
India408 Posts
On August 17 2018 17:38 EEk1TwEEk wrote: It should be a terran 2nd place. Or Maru will win his 3rd championship -_- (Z)Dark 0-2 (T)GuMiho (Z)Rogue 2-0 (T)INnoVation (Z)Rogue 2-0 (Z)GuMiho (T)INnoVation 2-1 (T)Dark (T)INnoVation 1-2 (Z)GuMiho After winning his group Maru said he wants Terrans over Zergs in the coming rounds. Even though we havent seen Maru's TvT recently except his series against Forte, there is no reason to assume it would be weak. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 17 2018 17:38 EEk1TwEEk wrote: It should be a terran 2nd place. Or Maru will win his 3rd championship -_- Maru likes TvT now. It's TvZ he needs to avoid if he wants a 3rd title. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 18 2018 04:20 Fango wrote: Maru likes TvT now. It's TvZ he needs to avoid if he wants a 3rd title. He'd rather play TvT than TvZ because he has trouble with TvZ. But he'd still rather play a TvZ than a TvT vs TY. This stuff's complicated now. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 04:42 Elentos wrote: He'd rather play TvT than TvZ because he has trouble with TvZ. But he'd still rather play a TvZ than a TvT vs TY. This stuff's complicated now. He wanted to play a TvZ against Reynor rather than a TvT against TY. That's not complicated, TY is the #1 or #2 TvTer in the world, Reynor isn't close to being the best ZvT player. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 18 2018 04:46 Fango wrote: He wanted to play a TvZ against Reynor rather than a TvT against TY. That's not complicated, TY is the #1 or #2 TvTer in the world, Reynor isn't close to being the best ZvT player. TY is literally the player in GSL Maru wants to play the least out of everyone. Those are his words, and that's not restricted to Reynor. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 05:01 Elentos wrote: TY is literally the player in GSL Maru wants to play the least out of everyone. Those are his words, and that's not restricted to Reynor. Maru is just being nice. TY is a scrub | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
Aaaand Gumi goes and donates tanks lol | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Topin
Peru10080 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Artosis is being more reserved tonight. Maybe Olli finally got through to him Rogue hasn't played yet | ||
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SaffronSage
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Artosis is being more reserved tonight. Maybe Olli finally got through to him Still cursing people though. First Impact, then now probably Rogue. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Topin
Peru10080 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:26 Shellshock wrote: Gumi could have used some more speed banshees or a BC You were saying? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
good strats | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
A well spent 400 resources. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
Losing strats too by the look of things lol | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:38 Kommander wrote: Losing strats too by the look of things lol it was the execution not that strat brah | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:40 Shellshock wrote: it was the execution not that strat brah Making no attempt to use his speed banshees is certainly poor execution, even if we ignore that attack. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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yht9657
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DubiousC2
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:52 JJH777 wrote: Even though it failed horribly I thought that was a cool unique push. It would probably destroy someone on ling/bane. It's probably quite good against ling/bane--I wouldn't go so far as saying it would destroy it. Which makes the fact that he decided to pull out this strat. against Dark all the more puzzling. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Topin
Peru10080 Posts
edit: i mean.. using barracks to block looks nice | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Shellshock
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Shellshock
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ZigguratOfUr
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SaffronSage
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"I'll try something new!", said Innovation, and failed, and died. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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fishinbigpond
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:09 fishinbigpond wrote: Is it only me or are tastosis really lacking energy today? Olli ruined them | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
It's either Olli or Jaedong. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:09 fishinbigpond wrote: Is it only me or are tastosis really lacking energy today? They casted KSL last night so they're probably still tired. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:06 IshinShishi wrote: the group of death is giving us the weakest sc2 in ages, looks like sc2 in korea really is in decline, that rush legit looked like the one I do to get fast to masters, especially the shitty scv micro, lmao. Rogue and INno being two of the biggest names in sc2 makes people forget how not good they are sometimes. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Topin
Peru10080 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
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Shellshock
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Kommander
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:17 Kommander wrote: The way everyone's playing so far, Serral would beat them all He pretty much did the other week? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Rogue dodged him. too scared | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Free banshee. Inno choking under the pressure classic inno | ||
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yht9657
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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dummy1
420 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:28 Shellshock wrote: unfortunately mirrors now Dark vs Rogue is at least interesting to see, even if the games end up being bad. They've only played offline twice in LotV, once in proleague where Rogue did a crazy swarmhost build, and once at IEM Shangai last year where Rogue won 3-0. | ||
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ionONE
Germany605 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:32 ionONE wrote: Underwhelming games so far, worst games i have watched in some time. I can tell you didn't watch the last gsl group. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:33 Fango wrote: I can tell you didn't watch the last gsl group. Maru vs Neeb was elite | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:37 Noonius wrote: why do I wake up to zvz? it's your true calling | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Ah Roach vs Roach, a true classic true likes mass lings and classic plays protoss | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:48 IshinShishi wrote: dark seemed to be doing great, and then he died. Lurkers > doing great | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
Still refuses to make lurkers | ||
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Latr02
United States268 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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dave81
United States50 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:52 dave81 wrote: Really need anyone but Inno to get through so I'm rooting for Dark/Rogue. Only person that could catch and overtake SoS in the WCS standings. Because as much as I like Trap he is not getting past ro16. Gumiho is ahead of Inno but behind sOs so he could catch him the same way | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:55 Shellshock wrote: Gumiho is ahead of Inno but behind sOs so he could catch him the same way If Gumi and INno both lose this group, then their chances for blizzcon are basically over unless everyone above them also loses in the ro16. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:56 IshinShishi wrote: I think Neeb can take Inno down if he keeps playing league, but otherwise he will get bopped. There was no chance of him playing Inno after Inno lost the earlier series | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
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swissman777
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ZigguratOfUr
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Shellshock
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dave81
United States50 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:55 Shellshock wrote: Gumiho is ahead of Inno but behind sOs so he could catch him the same way Does Gumi have good matchups outside of TvT? | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:59 IshinShishi wrote: someone needs to tell tasteless to stop using the word calculus, I'm fine with his use of "equity", but he needs to let go of his passion for calculus. Someone probably told him that the secondary meaning of calculus is "system of reasoning", and since then he uses it non-stop. We just need someone to inform him of the tertiary meaning, which is that a kidney stone is also called a calculus. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:03 IshinShishi wrote: is tasteless translating himself or is someone feeding it ? Someone's translating for him. Tasteless and Artosis speak almost no Korean despite having lived in Korea for so long afaik. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On August 18 2018 14:59 IshinShishi wrote: someone needs to tell tasteless to stop using the word calculus, I'm fine with his use of "equity", but he needs to let go of his passion for calculus. let the man use his "word a day" toilet paper knowledge | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:00 dave81 wrote: Does Gumi have good matchups outside of TvT? He's got a mean TvP as well. Really, Gumi should never be underestimated in any matchup. He's always been able to upset anyone. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: He's got a mean TvP as well. Really, Gumi should never be underestimated in any matchup. He's always been able to upset anyone. He's good but I don't see him ever beating the top Z/Ps in a longer series (Classic, Stats, Dark, Rogue) | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:08 Charoisaur wrote: He's good but I don't see him ever beating the top Z/Ps in a longer series (Classic, Stats, Dark, Rogue) He doesn't usually get far enough in tournaments to actually play a longer series. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:11 OhThatDang wrote: IMO I feel a lot better knowing Neeb is vs Rogue and not Dark, Dark just plays a wild style vs Foreigners and toppled Neeb twice now I think? I think Rogue would play more straight up and at least we would see how he stacks up vs the champ. Unless Rogue remembers the lessons from last Blizzcon and just ling rushes Neeb. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:11 OhThatDang wrote: IMO I feel a lot better knowing Neeb is vs Rogue and not Dark, Dark just plays a wild style vs Foreigners and toppled Neeb twice now I think? I think Rogue would play more straight up and at least we would see how he stacks up vs the champ. Neeb can handle Rogue better. They pretty much have a rivalry going on since Kespa Cup, and have been going back and forth. Neeb beat him recently so let's see if Rogue can get back at him | ||
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CloudCat
Singapore159 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33399 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:04 Noonius wrote: let the man use his "word a day" toilet paper knowledge wait I can buy word a day toilet paper? on a totally unrelated note, Rogue has become a surprisingly decent interview :o | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:15 Waxangel wrote: wait I can buy word a day toilet paper? on a totally unrelated note, Rogue has become a surprisingly decent interview :o TL writers use it exclusively | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:22 Noonius wrote: how are marines healed thru all that armor? magic | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:20 IshinShishi wrote: inno is so sloppy today, even forgot combat shiled Did he forget it or was it just really delayed? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1119 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:23 Fango wrote: Did he forget it or was it just really delayed? Pretty sure he forgot it since he was well into 2/2 when he started the upgrade, Idk the math but I think combat shield is more valuable than the armor upgrade. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:26 IshinShishi wrote: Pretty sure he forgot it since he was well into 2/2 when he started the upgrade, Idk the math but I think combat shield is more valuable than the armor upgrade. The techlab that was getting stim got killed and he had to restart it. But he started combat shield only a few seconds after stim finished, it was just very late. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:28 Shellshock wrote: https://twitter.com/feardragon64/status/997168194291875840 Not the first map to have easter eggs of the sort either. The tile art on Echo had symbols from Conway's Game of Life, and TLMC finalist Annihilation Station had numbers to do with electron shell numbers. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Not the first map to have easter eggs of the sort either. The tile art on Echo had symbols from Conway's Game of Life, and TLMC finalist Annihilation Station had numbers to do with electron shell numbers. theres one map that had SGTK on it somewhere cause he helped the guy test it I believe. one of those golden protossy looking ones | ||
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Shellshock
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FrostedMiniWheats
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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dave81
United States50 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:24 JoeCool wrote: It's been quite a while since Innovation lived up to his status. I personally feel since he left the skt team house he is overrated from past accomplishments. This year he has 2 ro16 finishes and 1 ro8. He was a very good player but now he is no longer a top contender. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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yht9657
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:36 dave81 wrote: I personally feel since he left the skt team house he is overrated from past accomplishments. This year he has 2 ro16 finishes and 1 ro8. He was a very good player but know he is no longer a top contender. The year after he left skt he got 4 championships and a bucket load of top 8 finishes. | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:36 dave81 wrote: I personally feel since he left the skt team house he is overrated from past accomplishments. This year he has 2 ro16 finishes and 1 ro8. He was a very good player but know he is no longer a top contender. Uhh innovation won another GSL a year after SKT disbanded... | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:37 IshinShishi wrote: inno was looking amazing yesterday on ladder too, but today he looked like he had been playing fortnite for a month. Gumiho was getting trashed by PartinG on ladder this morning as well. It really isn't always telling | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:36 dave81 wrote: I personally feel since he left the skt team house he is overrated from past accomplishments. This year he has 2 ro16 finishes and 1 ro8. He was a very good player but know he is no longer a top contender. well you are wrong | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
check LB's fucking shitballs fetal position try to cheer for a Korean zerg cry play wow | ||
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Anc13nt
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:37 yht9657 wrote: No Innovation at Blizzcon it seems I fear a retirement tweet | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:33 Shellshock wrote: theres one map that had SGTK on it somewhere cause he helped the guy test it I believe. one of those golden protossy looking ones I think that's also Echo. SGTK helped test out the performance or something. | ||
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Anc13nt
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:39 Noonius wrote: be me check LB's fucking shitballs fetal position try to cheer for a Korean zerg cry play wow TL Writers got me. They get you too? RIP | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Meh he's had a good run, what with being the GOAT and all. Not to mention he sucks at Blizzcon anyway. It's like the lone environment he's never done great in. | ||
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New Zealand15076 Posts
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dave81
United States50 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:37 Fango wrote: The year after he left skt he got 4 championships and a bucket load of top 8 finishes. How many of those 4 where actual premier events? I know 1 was the GSL win was 1 blizzcon as well can't remember off the top of my head?. But it doesn't change this year's results which have been lackluster. This year the only thing he won was a homestory cup. And while it is a fun event for the community lets be real it isn't very highly regarded. Last year I would argue his results where based off of still being a sharpened blade from his team house. But over the past year no one can argue that he hasn't dulled. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:45 dave81 wrote: How many of those 4 where actual premier events? I know 1 was the GSL win was 1 blizzcon as well can't remember off the top of my head?. But it doesn't change this year's results which have been lackluster. This year the only thing he won was a homestory cup. And while it is a fun event for the community lets be real it isn't very highly regarded. Last year I would argue his results where based off of still being a sharpened blade from his team house. But over the past year no one can argue that he hasn't dulled. All of them. IEM Gyeonggi, SSL, GSL, GSL vs TW. You cannot argue his wins last year were based on his form from the team house. During his last year on SKT, his best result in anything was a single ro16 in SSL, where he went 0-4. He was so irrelevant during the last year of SKT that people have completely forgotten about it. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:45 dave81 wrote: How many of those 4 where actual premier events? I know 1 was the GSL win was 1 blizzcon as well can't remember off the top of my head?. But it doesn't change this year's results which have been lackluster. This year the only thing he won was a homestory cup. And while it is a fun event for the community lets be real it isn't very highly regarded. Last year I would argue his results where based off of still being a sharpened blade from his team house. But over the past year no one can argue that he hasn't dulled. GSL, GSL vs The World 2017, IEM Gyeonggi, and SSL season 2 2017 2017 was arguably his best year | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:45 dave81 wrote: How many of those 4 where actual premier events? I know 1 was the GSL win was 1 blizzcon as well can't remember off the top of my head?. But it doesn't change this year's results which have been lackluster. This year the only thing he won was a homestory cup. And while it is a fun event for the community lets be real it isn't very highly regarded. Last year I would argue his results where based off of still being a sharpened blade from his team house. But over the past year no one can argue that he hasn't dulled. that would be pretty strange seeing as he probably had the worst year he ever had in 2016 while he was still on SKT, he had extremely strong results last year and was easily in the top 2-3 best players | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:48 Anc13nt wrote: It sucks because I feel like Innovation was in pretty decent form for most of this year but was pretty unlucky. Are you sure you're not getting him mixed up with Cure? Easy mistake to make. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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dave81
United States50 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:49 Noonius wrote: when are we gonna see marauders again? And that big terran flying thing that has not been part of meta for years scouting factory? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:47 Fango wrote: All of them. IEM Gyeonggi, SSL, GSL, GSL vs TW. You cannot argue his wins last year were based on his form from the team house. During his last year on SKT, his best result in anything was a single ro16 in SSL, where he went 0-4. He was so irrelevant during the last year of SKT that people have completely forgotten about it. i remember him losing in coda a to Dark lol, yeah that was a terrible year for inno | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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dave81
United States50 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:53 Fango wrote: It's always annoyed me that Dark has some of the best ZvT lategame ever yet he tries these stupid cheesy builds so often. I think he just does it too vary his builds.Throw some deception into the mix so people cannot always predict what he will do. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:55 dave81 wrote: I think he just does it too vary his builds.Throw some deception into the mix so people cannot always predict what he will do. I don't see any terran player beating him in the lategame though. Regardless if they know he's pushing for it. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:55 dave81 wrote: I think he just does it too vary his builds.Throw some deception into the mix so people cannot always predict what he will do. Throwing in some cheeses to stay unpredictable and thus strengthen your macro games is a worthwhile strategy. In the case of Dark he occasionally throws in excellent macro games to strengthen his cheese. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 18 2018 15:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Throwing in some cheeses to stay unpredictable and thus strengthen your macro games is a worthwhile strategy. In the case of Dark he occasionally throws in excellent macro games to strengthen his cheese. Dark is hyvaa 2.0 | ||
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dave81
United States50 Posts
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Durnuu
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ZigguratOfUr
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
well that was good for dark | ||
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yht9657
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Anc13nt
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ZigguratOfUr
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:12 IshinShishi wrote: why were so many tanks unsieged? whats going on today, kinda frustrating to watch Because you can't just sit there, you have to push forward at some point. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:12 IshinShishi wrote: why were so many tanks unsieged? whats going on today, kinda frustrating to watch. dark should never be able to beat that army down 30 supply vs 18 spread out siege tanks That was hardly the big problem. Losing everything to the ling attack before was. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That was hardly the big problem. Losing everything to the ling attack before was. Dark shouldnt be able to stop a decent leap frog, I dont think the ling attack was enough, it was a mech army 30 supply up vs mostly ling bane hydra | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:12 IshinShishi wrote: why were so many tanks unsieged? whats going on today, kinda frustrating to watch. dark should never be able to beat that army down 30 supply vs 18 spread out siege tanks zerg imba | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1119 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Shellshock
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SHODAN
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Durnuu
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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starkiller123
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yht9657
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FrostedMiniWheats
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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dummy1
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Rogue still the Korean alpha Zerg after all Beat the worst player in the group amd won a ZvZ ;o | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:24 dummy1 wrote: Ro8. Maru vs Gumiho rematch, wow. is it a rematch? last season I'm pretty sure one of the quarter finals was TY-GuMiho which TY won 3-2 | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
I keep running this through my head. Why would Dark pick Gumiho? Why does he keep creating all those groups of deaths to screw himself over? Why, Dark, why? | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:26 xelnaga_empire wrote: Why did Dark pick Gumiho? Why? He had so many weaker players to choose from. Even if Dark was confident in his TvsZ, he could have picked Keen. I keep running this through my head. Why would Dark pick Gumiho? Why does he keep creating all those groups of deaths to screw himself over? Why, Dark, why? Dark does this every season, I'm not sure why anyone is surprised when he picks stupidly hard groups | ||
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dummy1
420 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:25 starkiller123 wrote: is it a rematch? last season I'm pretty sure one of the quarter finals was TY-GuMiho which TY won 3-2 2017 gsl s2 maru 2-4 gumiho. | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:24 Fango wrote: To think Dark could have picked like Keen instead of Gumi Exactly. Even if Dark was confident in his TvsZ, just pick Keen instead of Gumiho! Dark 100% deserves this. It was good for him to lose because he does this to himself. How can you be a top player "inside" the game but "outside" the game, you make stupid decisions that sabotage your own tournament results? | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
ah ok yes i forgot about that, to be fair by now most ro8 and on matches are probably rematches | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:24 Ej_ wrote: Beat the worst player in the group amd won a ZvZ ;o after also finishing higher than Dark in the previous season against superior opponents and only narrowly falling to the champ ;o | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
He wins one GSL off his TvT then gets eliminated from 3 GSLs by TvT | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:26 xelnaga_empire wrote: Why did Dark pick Gumiho? Why? He had so many weaker players to choose from. Even if Dark was confident in his TvsZ, he could have picked Keen. I keep running this through my head. Why would Dark pick Gumiho? Why does he keep creating all those groups of deaths to screw himself over? Why, Dark, why? Probably because he thinks he's superior (Dark always is pretty confident, so much that it often can be seen as arrogant) so he just picked him for fun or because he doesn't like him (they didn't shake hands after all). | ||
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dummy1
420 Posts
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:27 starkiller123 wrote: Dark does this every season, I'm not sure why anyone is surprised when he picks stupidly hard groups It's so weird. He is a pro gamer. Him getting further in tournaments means he gets more money, more prestige, and even more sponsor interest! Dark doesn't have a sponsor now. He doesn't get as far in the GSL, given his skill level. He keeps sabotaging his own career. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: after also finishing higher than Dark in the previous season against superior opponents and only narrowly falling to the champ ;o Last season he literally beat INnoVation twice in ro16 :D. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:26 xelnaga_empire wrote: Why did Dark pick Gumiho? Why? He had so many weaker players to choose from. Even if Dark was confident in his TvsZ, he could have picked Keen. I keep running this through my head. Why would Dark pick Gumiho? Why does he keep creating all those groups of deaths to screw himself over? Why, Dark, why? I heard somebody said that he wanted to be the best player among the seconds of all the time, | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:37 Fango wrote: Dark would do much better in GSL if he never got first pick in groups selections. All three times he's had it he's lost to whoever he picks. Because he doesn't pick the weakest player available. He goes and picks some of the hardest players to beat. Maybe he is rich, I dunno. But even if Dark is rich and doesn't need the money, since he is a pro SC2 player, wouldn't he want to get further in the GSL and eventually win one? | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 18 2018 16:26 xelnaga_empire wrote: Why did Dark pick Gumiho? Why? He had so many weaker players to choose from. Even if Dark was confident in his TvsZ, he could have picked Keen. No, he couldn't have picked KeeN because Stats got to pick before Dark. But Dark wanted to play a Terran. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 18 2018 17:10 Kommander wrote: And if Maru has one matchup that can be considered his weakest, it's TvT. There's no proof of that, and Maru said he'd rather play a Terran from this group than a Zerg. | ||
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DubiousC2
129 Posts
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On August 18 2018 17:10 Kommander wrote: Maru did beat Gumiho 2-0 in Ro16 of GSL S1. Keen almost beat him though if it wasn't proxy reapers lol. So Gumi being the TvT god that he is, has a real good possibility of knocking Maru out. And if Maru has one matchup that can be considered his weakest, it's TvT. Considering how fast form is changing in SC2 we can say just about 0 about either players chances here. | ||
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Topin
Peru10080 Posts
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