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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 03 2018 18:36 GMT
#1481
On March 04 2018 03:33 leublix wrote:
"Zerg late game is hard but if Zerg plays it well it's very hard for Protoss to win" - Serral on point analysis.

Why is Classic's PvZ hyped so hard atm? I don't remember seeing him play many Zergs lately.

He's lost one set in 2018 to zerg. 26-6 in games in the matchup.

2-3 Dark, 3-1 Dark, 2-0 Solar, 2-1 soO, 2-0 Impact, 2-1 Elazer. Man can do no wrong.
Writermaru pls
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 03 2018 18:36 GMT
#1482
On March 04 2018 03:33 leublix wrote:
"Zerg late game is hard but if Zerg plays it well it's very hard for Protoss to win" - Serral on point analysis.

Why is Classic's PvZ hyped so hard atm? I don't remember seeing him play many Zergs lately.

It has been 2 months since he has dropped a series to a Zerg.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 03 2018 18:36 GMT
#1483
On March 04 2018 03:35 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:33 leublix wrote:
"Zerg late game is hard but if Zerg plays it well it's very hard for Protoss to win" - Serral on point analysis.

Why is Classic's PvZ hyped so hard atm? I don't remember seeing him play many Zergs lately.

http://aligulac.com/players/186/results/?after=2017-12-01&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

wow that scrub lost to soO and Dark a few 2 months ago, no chance against Serral
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
March 03 2018 18:36 GMT
#1484
On March 04 2018 03:35 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:32 D-light wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Diabolique wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:30 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:29 Diabolique wrote:
Where are the Finnish gifs?

Sadly TL bans if you post them... so the Finnish guys have to wait for the grand final.

But when will they post them when Serral loses to Classic tomorrow? Their last chance is today ...

It's either championship or drunk santa.

Nothing in-between.

OK, then I will wait for them for tomorrow :-)

you can always post them yourself :D
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1485
lmao

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1750 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1486
On March 04 2018 03:35 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:33 leublix wrote:
"Zerg late game is hard but if Zerg plays it well it's very hard for Protoss to win" - Serral on point analysis.

Why is Classic's PvZ hyped so hard atm? I don't remember seeing him play many Zergs lately.

http://aligulac.com/players/186/results/?after=2017-12-01&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=


dayum. that's some intensive win streak right there
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1487
Serral so good, very good mental resilience to come back from that game 3 and 0-2.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1488
On March 04 2018 03:36 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:33 leublix wrote:
"Zerg late game is hard but if Zerg plays it well it's very hard for Protoss to win" - Serral on point analysis.

Why is Classic's PvZ hyped so hard atm? I don't remember seeing him play many Zergs lately.


Yeah I really like this quote.

What Serral pulled off is extreeeemely hard and skill intensive, but once you pull it off it's very hard for protoss


Serral is basically saying to Zergs everywhere to git gud
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1489
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1490
On March 04 2018 03:36 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:33 leublix wrote:
"Zerg late game is hard but if Zerg plays it well it's very hard for Protoss to win" - Serral on point analysis.

Why is Classic's PvZ hyped so hard atm? I don't remember seeing him play many Zergs lately.


Yeah I really like this quote.

What Serral pulled off is extreeeemely hard and skill intensive, but once you pull it off it's very hard for protoss

Yeah the multiprong attack looked really sweet. Which i normally would see from a terran player going bio
this is a quote
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
March 03 2018 18:37 GMT
#1491
jesus I didn't realize classic's winrates were that good

wtf he has been so underrated for so long until now.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 03 2018 18:38 GMT
#1492
Also, ignoring Serral, Algiulac has Classic, TY, and Solar as the best of each race, which I'd say is pretty damn accurate.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 03 2018 18:38 GMT
#1493
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
March 03 2018 18:38 GMT
#1494
On March 04 2018 03:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:29 Lexender wrote:
Why dont zergs do this multidrop play more? Is seems more effective that bashing your head against a wall of Sus and immortals


Because they don't need to.

I've been saying this shit for years. Zerg has all the tools to be an EXTREMELY mobile style with Overlords and Nydus Worms, but teching to Hive is so much safer and way less APM intensive so most players don't bother.

They haven't been forced into the style the way Terran has. They have the tools to do it though vs Protoss.

you are stupid, the reason progamers dont do certain builds isnt because they dont have the apm (LOL), its because it doesnt work. nydus and drops cost gas, they are prone to being scouted and killed off
how entitled do you have to be in your ignorance to think that you have better understanding of this game than people who play it for money, 8 hours a day, at the highest possible level?



What I'm saying is that the normal traditional method of teching to Hive is easier, safer, and generally more effective so that's what most Zergs do.

But, the drop play option is always there and against slow clunky ass units like Immortals it works VERY well. BTW just concerning the gas argument. Roaches are super cheap, and they are better when the unit numbers are smaller vs Protoss (IE 4 roaches vs 4 Stalkers is a better match up for the Roaches than 12 Roaches vs 12 Stalkers)

Clearly the play can work. It also happens to be a big counter to Immortal heavy play as we just witnessed. Zergs don't do it not because it doesn't work, they don't do it because the other methods are easier and safer.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 18:39:42
March 03 2018 18:39 GMT
#1495
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Good for her. She also didn't even qualify for this tournmanet. Eliminated by TRUE and Guru

Oh and didn't even reach the bracket stage at last WCS
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
March 03 2018 18:39 GMT
#1496
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

And she can't get out of group stage in WCS.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 03 2018 18:39 GMT
#1497
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL


She also happened to wreck him in IEM Pyeongchang
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 03 2018 18:40 GMT
#1498
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Scarlett can't play vs bad foreigner zergs and Neeb, but she's godly vs koreans and good foreign zergs. FeelsBadMan.
Writermaru pls
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 03 2018 18:41 GMT
#1499
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

Yeah, though he hasn't had to focus on high school the last year, so before that he ended up taking breaks from practicing a lot, then possibly having some weaker match-up and losing to some other quality player. And now also seemingly getting a bit more relaxed out there on the bigger stages also.
why even
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 03 2018 18:42 GMT
#1500
On March 04 2018 03:39 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
[quote]
I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Good for her. She also didn't even qualify for this tournmanet. Eliminated by TRUE and Guru

I didn’t know this IEM was the be all end all lmao

I’m getting a lot of blowback from Serral fans which is puzzling because I have literally only said nice things about him. I made a mere suggestion that some foreigners may be close to him
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