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redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1746 Posts
March 03 2018 18:43 GMT
#1501
Serral vs TY finals incoming
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
March 03 2018 18:43 GMT
#1502
Not a big fan of pvp's so see you guys on the tvz's
this is a quote
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 03 2018 18:43 GMT
#1503
On March 04 2018 03:42 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:39 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
[quote]
I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Good for her. She also didn't even qualify for this tournmanet. Eliminated by TRUE and Guru

I didn’t know this IEM was the be all end all lmao

I’m getting a lot of blowback from Serral fans which is puzzling because I have literally only said nice things about him. I made a mere suggestion that some foreigners may be close to him

Honestly, Serral's the best foreigner right now by a pretty significant margin. He shitstomped more or less everyone in WCS; he won the event with, like, 3 losses the whole way. Now he's trashing koreans, too, having won sets vs Trap, Zest, Rogue and Impact. You can't really say 'yeah, but Scarlett is top 8 in korea' because she's one of the few foreigners to really dedicate herself to GSL, so it's not an equal comparison. However, with Scarlett disappointing at both WCS and IEM, and Neeb not quite finding himself, Serral's left as the best foreigner by far right now. They can catch up - but it's going to be hard if Serral keeps this up.
Writermaru pls
Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
March 03 2018 18:44 GMT
#1504
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:31 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:25 Uberfather wrote:
Give serral 1 more year and all his games will look like this

I’ve been hearing that Serral is a god since like 2014. I’ll believe it when I see it consistently

But he played amazing that last game that was awesome

I mean, he's been consistent this year. Dominated WCS (didn't he go like, 17-4?) and outside of the first two games here, dominated IEM WC too. He has an 88% win rate this year, going 25-4 in matches, with 3 of his 4 losses being in g5/g3 situations. He's just been a monster, and I'm kind of sad I didn't have more faith in him when I made my PR.

Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.


OK. Assuming he continues this progression he is showing, i expect him to become more consistent with good games in important moments like a playoffs against good koreans. Like what NOT happened this series

I mean in this series imo he wasn't as crisp in his mechanics as yesterday, at least there were signs like in defense against oracles, ling harassing wall etc, where he had some mistakes that to me showed nerves.

Maybe he will never be that consistent but i believe he will continue improving and get there
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1746 Posts
March 03 2018 18:45 GMT
#1505
Serral somehow reminds me of Stephano back in WoL days.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 03 2018 18:46 GMT
#1506
On March 04 2018 03:45 redloser wrote:
Serral somehow reminds me of Stephano back in WoL days.

He seems to have the same knack for beating Koreans
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 03 2018 18:46 GMT
#1507
Serral needs to try and qualify for GSL. Train in the foreigner house even. Korea could do wonders for him.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 03 2018 18:46 GMT
#1508
How many people are in the SC2 audience at IEM Katowice?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 03 2018 18:46 GMT
#1509
On March 04 2018 03:43 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:42 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:39 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
[quote]
Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Good for her. She also didn't even qualify for this tournmanet. Eliminated by TRUE and Guru

I didn’t know this IEM was the be all end all lmao

I’m getting a lot of blowback from Serral fans which is puzzling because I have literally only said nice things about him. I made a mere suggestion that some foreigners may be close to him

Honestly, Serral's the best foreigner right now by a pretty significant margin. He shitstomped more or less everyone in WCS; he won the event with, like, 3 losses the whole way. Now he's trashing koreans, too, having won sets vs Trap, Zest, Rogue and Impact. You can't really say 'yeah, but Scarlett is top 8 in korea' because she's one of the few foreigners to really dedicate herself to GSL, so it's not an equal comparison. However, with Scarlett disappointing at both WCS and IEM, and Neeb not quite finding himself, Serral's left as the best foreigner by far right now. They can catch up - but it's going to be hard if Serral keeps this up.



Scarlett literally beat Serral just before her GSL match, they are both very good Serral is more consistent though Scarlett seems very peaky and easily thrown off her game.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 18:48:50
March 03 2018 18:46 GMT
#1510
On March 04 2018 03:45 redloser wrote:
Serral somehow reminds me of Stephano back in WoL days.

Today was the first time that I got this feeling, since I saw the first stream of Stephano and he hotkeyed and rallied his eggs, which blew my mind.

I am actually getting the urge to play sc2 from watching him and I haven't played in a month .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12381 Posts
March 03 2018 18:47 GMT
#1511
Let's go Dear, time to do something.
No will to live, no wish to die
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
479 Posts
March 03 2018 18:47 GMT
#1512
A Zerg will obviously win, but which one?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 03 2018 18:47 GMT
#1513
On March 04 2018 03:43 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:42 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:39 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
[quote]
Idk I’m mostly just saying the “give him one more year” thing is kinda silly because I’ve been hearing “next year” about Serral for forever. Plus I think he’s already elite now.

He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Good for her. She also didn't even qualify for this tournmanet. Eliminated by TRUE and Guru

I didn’t know this IEM was the be all end all lmao

I’m getting a lot of blowback from Serral fans which is puzzling because I have literally only said nice things about him. I made a mere suggestion that some foreigners may be close to him

Honestly, Serral's the best foreigner right now by a pretty significant margin. He shitstomped more or less everyone in WCS; he won the event with, like, 3 losses the whole way. Now he's trashing koreans, too, having won sets vs Trap, Zest, Rogue and Impact. You can't really say 'yeah, but Scarlett is top 8 in korea' because she's one of the few foreigners to really dedicate herself to GSL, so it's not an equal comparison. However, with Scarlett disappointing at both WCS and IEM, and Neeb not quite finding himself, Serral's left as the best foreigner by far right now. They can catch up - but it's going to be hard if Serral keeps this up.

I mean can we really knock Scarlett for dedicating herself to the most prestigious league? Surely then we must give her leave to lose elsewhere for not being “dedicated” to those tournaments because she’s focused on Korea
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 18:48:14
March 03 2018 18:48 GMT
#1514
On March 04 2018 03:46 Kommander wrote:
Serral needs to try and qualify for GSL. Train in the foreigner house even. Korea could do wonders for him.


It's probably not worth the trouble for him as he's unlikely to win as much money there as he would outside Korea. It might be worth for 1 season just to play on KR ladder more and to experience team house training though.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 03 2018 18:48 GMT
#1515
On March 04 2018 03:47 aringadingding wrote:
A Zerg will obviously win, but which one?


Rogue double world champion?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 03 2018 18:48 GMT
#1516
Jesus I never thought I’d see the day I’d be beating the drum for Scarlett in an LR thread lmao
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 03 2018 18:49 GMT
#1517
go Classic
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 18:49:28
March 03 2018 18:49 GMT
#1518
On March 04 2018 03:47 aringadingding wrote:
A Zerg will obviously win, but which one?


Honestly, I think all Zergs are going out in the next round.

Maybe Solar makes it, he's looking damn good
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 03 2018 18:49 GMT
#1519
On March 04 2018 03:46 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 03:43 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:42 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:39 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:38 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Durnuu wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:35 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
He got the one more year already. He's by far the best foreigner.

Probably yeah but some foreigners are close no?

Do you see any other foreigners in this top 12?

I forgot that you’re only a top foreigner if you make top 12 in whatever IEM is currently in progress

you can be a top foreigner and wont get close to touching serral

Scarlett is literally sitting in top 8 of GSL

Good for her. She also didn't even qualify for this tournmanet. Eliminated by TRUE and Guru

I didn’t know this IEM was the be all end all lmao

I’m getting a lot of blowback from Serral fans which is puzzling because I have literally only said nice things about him. I made a mere suggestion that some foreigners may be close to him

Honestly, Serral's the best foreigner right now by a pretty significant margin. He shitstomped more or less everyone in WCS; he won the event with, like, 3 losses the whole way. Now he's trashing koreans, too, having won sets vs Trap, Zest, Rogue and Impact. You can't really say 'yeah, but Scarlett is top 8 in korea' because she's one of the few foreigners to really dedicate herself to GSL, so it's not an equal comparison. However, with Scarlett disappointing at both WCS and IEM, and Neeb not quite finding himself, Serral's left as the best foreigner by far right now. They can catch up - but it's going to be hard if Serral keeps this up.



Scarlett literally beat Serral just before her GSL match, they are both very good Serral is more consistent though Scarlett seems very peaky and easily thrown off her game.

Scarlett is a very good player, but to me it feels as though she kind of has to prep for her opponent, and in situations where her prep isn't as strong (IEM WC, WCS) she falters super hard. It's tough to say someone's better than Serral when they've lost twice to Namshar, gotten thrashed by Guru, and lost to TRUE, all in their best (by far) matchup. Not to mention that she's also a combined 3-22 in games against Neeb, Kelazhur and uThermal, the three best non-zerg foreigners she's played.
Writermaru pls
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
March 03 2018 18:50 GMT
#1520
On March 04 2018 03:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Jesus I never thought I’d see the day I’d be beating the drum for Scarlett in an LR thread lmao


She deserves the credit these days.

She finally won a premier tournament, and she's the first foreigner since Jinro to make it to the Ro8 in GSL after qualifying for it.

She's doing things very few foreigners have ever done. For as good as Serral is playing, his achievements in this tournament are not that uncommon for good foreign players.
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