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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 05 2018 07:24 GMT
#181
Why B stream is not on the side bar?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 07:31:25
February 05 2018 07:24 GMT
#182
On February 05 2018 16:18 blunderfulguy wrote:
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On February 05 2018 16:15 pvsnp wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:12 VengefulTree wrote:
On February 05 2018 15:41 DieuCure wrote:
Nobody will be interested in Starcraft 2 seeing a ling flood ...


What? Zerg rushes are definitely the most iconic starcraft thing in pop culture so I'm glad we had one, and it was super fun to watch the ling micro (as a Scarlett fan ofc)

Workers dying is entertaining?

Paging David Kim....


If you're a Scarlett I'm sure you liked it, but there's no denying that a ling flood is very, very far from the pinnacle of SC2

Hail Mary throws in sportsball are also far from the "pinnacle of sportsball" but that doesn't mean people don't like them.

Because a Hail Mary is......a Hail Mary? A last-ditch desperate attempt that miraculously works despite all odds. Who doesn't love the underdog getting beaten to hell before coming back at the last second?

And then we have a ling flood, creeping up behind the other player and shanking them in the back.

Don't get me wrong, cheese is necessary part of Starcraft. But one player's workers dying to the other player's units is not entertaining by any definition (unless you are a big fan of one player of course, but even then it's more "Yay my favorite player won" instead of of "Yay look at workers dying")
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 05 2018 07:26 GMT
#183
Kela throwing skills are on point I have to say.
Zest fanboy.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 07:27:35
February 05 2018 07:26 GMT
#184
Kelazhur had that game until he went full foreigner.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 05 2018 07:26 GMT
#185
Or HeroMarine just too good
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 05 2018 07:27 GMT
#186
I didn't know Heromarine was Italian.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 05 2018 07:27 GMT
#187
On February 05 2018 16:22 Kommander wrote:
HeroMarine should've come in this tournament as German, he'd win against Kelazhur 7-1.


I didn't know he was Italian, I assumed they fucked up the flag graphic. Hadn't actually seen his shirt until now
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 05 2018 07:28 GMT
#188
On February 05 2018 16:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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On February 05 2018 16:22 Kommander wrote:
HeroMarine should've come in this tournament as German, he'd win against Kelazhur 7-1.


I didn't know he was Italian, I assumed they fucked up the flag graphic. Hadn't actually seen his shirt until now


From his grandmother iirc. Allowed him to get an easier qualifier.
Zest fanboy.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 07:38:51
February 05 2018 07:29 GMT
#189
On February 05 2018 16:21 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 16:15 pvsnp wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:12 VengefulTree wrote:
On February 05 2018 15:41 DieuCure wrote:
Nobody will be interested in Starcraft 2 seeing a ling flood ...


What? Zerg rushes are definitely the most iconic starcraft thing in pop culture so I'm glad we had one, and it was super fun to watch the ling micro (as a Scarlett fan ofc)

Workers dying is entertaining?

Paging David Kim....


If you're a Scarlett I'm sure you liked it, but there's no denying that a ling flood is very, very far from the pinnacle of SC2


Not the pinnacle of sc2 for sure, but from a spectator's perspective I always felt a quick, action-packed cheese game is much more entertaining (and funny) than a long macro game that ends at the first push because one player just had more. I'm exaggerating of course but you see what I mean.

People have different expectations for game quality I guess, I loved GSL's group H with all my molecules


Except there wasn't action. TIME got surprised and more or less died immediately. He let the lings in, mismicroed his reaper/hellion, and then it was just a drawn-out death animation.

Action-packed cheese games are amazing, like when Maru and Inno both double proxied each other and the game came down to a single reaper grenade. But when one player just sucker punches the other and the game ends instantly?

Not my idea of fun.
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
February 05 2018 07:30 GMT
#190
On February 05 2018 16:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 16:22 Kommander wrote:
HeroMarine should've come in this tournament as German, he'd win against Kelazhur 7-1.


I didn't know he was Italian, I assumed they fucked up the flag graphic. Hadn't actually seen his shirt until now


Yeah, I don't know why he chose to came in as Italian though, he's a dual citizen and as far as I know, Germans can enter Korea without a visa.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 05 2018 07:31 GMT
#191
On February 05 2018 16:30 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 16:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:22 Kommander wrote:
HeroMarine should've come in this tournament as German, he'd win against Kelazhur 7-1.


I didn't know he was Italian, I assumed they fucked up the flag graphic. Hadn't actually seen his shirt until now


Yeah, I don't know why he chose to came in as Italian though, he's a dual citizen and as far as I know, Germans can enter Korea without a visa.


There were regional qualifiers. The italian one was way easier.
Zest fanboy.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
February 05 2018 07:33 GMT
#192
On February 05 2018 16:31 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 16:30 Kommander wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:22 Kommander wrote:
HeroMarine should've come in this tournament as German, he'd win against Kelazhur 7-1.


I didn't know he was Italian, I assumed they fucked up the flag graphic. Hadn't actually seen his shirt until now


Yeah, I don't know why he chose to came in as Italian though, he's a dual citizen and as far as I know, Germans can enter Korea without a visa.


There were regional qualifiers. The italian one was way easier.


Ahh I see
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 05 2018 07:38 GMT
#193
Did I miss something?
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
February 05 2018 07:38 GMT
#194
On February 05 2018 16:29 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 16:21 VengefulTree wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:15 pvsnp wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:12 VengefulTree wrote:
On February 05 2018 15:41 DieuCure wrote:
Nobody will be interested in Starcraft 2 seeing a ling flood ...


What? Zerg rushes are definitely the most iconic starcraft thing in pop culture so I'm glad we had one, and it was super fun to watch the ling micro (as a Scarlett fan ofc)

Workers dying is entertaining?

Paging David Kim....


If you're a Scarlett I'm sure you liked it, but there's no denying that a ling flood is very, very far from the pinnacle of SC2


Not the pinnacle of sc2 for sure, but from a spectator's perspective I always felt a quick, action-packed cheese game is much more entertaining (and funny) than a long macro game that ends at the first push because one player just had more. I'm exaggerating of course but you see what I mean.

People have different expectations for game quality I guess, I loved GSL's group H with all my molecules


Action-packed cheese games are amazing, like when Maru and Inno both double proxied each other and the game came down to a single reaper grenade.


Do you remember what game was that? Sounds fun
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 05 2018 07:39 GMT
#195
Haha what was that?
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 05 2018 07:39 GMT
#196
lol heromarine
why even
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
February 05 2018 07:39 GMT
#197
Well, that was God awful.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 07:47:23
February 05 2018 07:40 GMT
#198
On February 05 2018 16:38 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 16:29 pvsnp wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:21 VengefulTree wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:15 pvsnp wrote:
On February 05 2018 16:12 VengefulTree wrote:
On February 05 2018 15:41 DieuCure wrote:
Nobody will be interested in Starcraft 2 seeing a ling flood ...


What? Zerg rushes are definitely the most iconic starcraft thing in pop culture so I'm glad we had one, and it was super fun to watch the ling micro (as a Scarlett fan ofc)

Workers dying is entertaining?

Paging David Kim....


If you're a Scarlett I'm sure you liked it, but there's no denying that a ling flood is very, very far from the pinnacle of SC2


Not the pinnacle of sc2 for sure, but from a spectator's perspective I always felt a quick, action-packed cheese game is much more entertaining (and funny) than a long macro game that ends at the first push because one player just had more. I'm exaggerating of course but you see what I mean.

People have different expectations for game quality I guess, I loved GSL's group H with all my molecules


Action-packed cheese games are amazing, like when Maru and Inno both double proxied each other and the game came down to a single reaper grenade.


Do you remember what game was that? Sounds fun


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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 07:47:34
February 05 2018 07:42 GMT
#199
Double
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 05 2018 07:48 GMT
#200
So I guess they're going to wait on the b stream till the other series is finished or something...
why even
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