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[WCS] 2018 Leipzig - NA Challenger League

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 03:36:38
January 05 2018 16:59 GMT
#1
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Open Qualifier: 5 January 2018 15:00 PST
Group Stage: 6 January 2018 16:00 PST
Playoffs: 7 January 2018 15:00 PST


PLAYERS QUALIFIED FROM THE OPEN BRACKET
(P)Neeb (Z)Silky (T)Pokebunny (Z)TRUE (T)Raze (Z)JonSnow (Z)NoRegreT (Z)PandaBearMe (T)Dolan (Z)GAMETIME (P)MCanning (Z)Scarlett (T)Semper (Z)Cicada(Voltz) (T)MaSa (P)puCK


GROUP STAGE
GROUP A: (P)Neeb (Z)Cicada (Z)JonSnow (T)Raze
GROUP B: (Z)TRUE (Z)NoRegreT (T)Pokebunny (Z)Silky
GROUP C: (Z)Scarlett (P)MCanning (P)puCK (Z)PandaBearMe
GROUP D: (T)MaSa (T)Dolan (T)Semper (Z)GAMETIME
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(P)Neeb vs (Z)NoRegreT
(T)MaSa vs (Z)JonSnow
(Z)Scarlett vs (T)Semper
(Z)TRUE vs (P)puCK

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Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
January 05 2018 17:38 GMT
#2
How/where do you sign up for the open tourney?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 05 2018 17:39 GMT
#3
On January 06 2018 02:38 Bonkarooni wrote:
How/where do you sign up for the open tourney?

http://challonge.com/vwp6qwve
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
January 05 2018 17:50 GMT
#4
Thank you! <3
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
577 Posts
January 05 2018 19:42 GMT
#5
Just got delayed by 3 hours, starts at 6pm pst now
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 06 2018 02:05 GMT
#6
Scarlett vs Avilo hype
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 02:26 GMT
#7
On January 06 2018 11:05 Solar424 wrote:
Scarlett vs Avilo hype

Less hype if Avilo doesn't have his cam and mike on to catch the rage. Hopefully he types some in-game BM.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 06 2018 02:38 GMT
#8
Wasn't Wardi meant to be casting this?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 02:41 GMT
#9
On January 06 2018 11:38 Inflicted wrote:
Wasn't Wardi meant to be casting this?

I thought so too but he's been casting since early this morning, no doubt he's tired as fuck
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 02:43 GMT
#10
On January 06 2018 11:38 Inflicted wrote:
Wasn't Wardi meant to be casting this?

He was going to, but after the delay, there was ~5 hours to kill and he had already been streaming something like 10 hours by then.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 02:48:02
January 06 2018 02:46 GMT
#11
I haven't seen avilo's play in a while. Good to see he's back to doing what he loves, playing a terrible, terrible style and losing

and here comes the balance whine. glorious
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 06 2018 02:48 GMT
#12
avilo raging in his first game already
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 02:50 GMT
#13
On January 06 2018 11:05 Solar424 wrote:
Scarlett vs Avilo hype

After game 1 against Farmcakes, I'm thinking we aren't getting this.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 02:52 GMT
#14
"Maybe I missed 2 vipers and all my vikings instantly died" - Avilo, after wiffing multiple EMPs and missing every viper, and not splitting his vikings even a bit.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 06 2018 02:52 GMT
#15
On January 06 2018 11:50 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 11:05 Solar424 wrote:
Scarlett vs Avilo hype

After game 1 against Farmcakes, I'm thinking we aren't getting this.

I'm really rooting for avilo to bring this back...and then we can see him rage against a top tier foreigner.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 02:56:38
January 06 2018 02:53 GMT
#16
If seeker missile could 1-shot workers like avilo thinks they should, that would be super broken.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 06 2018 02:57 GMT
#17
Welp since GSL starts in an hour I guess it will be entertaining to watch avilo before watching Inno.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 02:58 GMT
#18
I was worried about not getting my dose of avilo salt. I was wrong.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 06 2018 03:17 GMT
#19
Avilo plays Terran like I imagine Has would. He realizes that he has 0 micro and 0 macro, so he goes for the most abusive build he can imagine.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 06 2018 03:18 GMT
#20
On January 06 2018 12:17 Solar424 wrote:
Avilo plays Terran like I imagine Has would. He realizes that he has 0 micro and 0 macro, so he goes for the most abusive build he can imagine.

Except that Has actually innovates his builds and doesn't have bad micro.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 03:19 GMT
#21
On January 06 2018 12:17 Solar424 wrote:
Avilo plays Terran like I imagine Has would. He realizes that he has 0 micro and 0 macro, so he goes for the most abusive build he can imagine.


Has would ghost rush or something. No point in letting the opponent amass enough money to pay off the US debt.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 03:20 GMT
#22
Avilo busting out the pro level complaints per minute.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 03:44:24
January 06 2018 03:41 GMT
#23
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 03:45 GMT
#24
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 03:46 GMT
#25
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 06 2018 03:47 GMT
#26
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy
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Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 03:51:07
January 06 2018 03:50 GMT
#27
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


It was... interesting. That said, the skins aren't allowed because they obscure seeing roach burrow move, and she called him out on it after he used it. I don't know how to feel about it.
Djsoke
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 03:51:27
January 06 2018 03:50 GMT
#28
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


Yeah...Did they call an admin? Because the last time this happens iirc the admin ruled that the offending player was given a warning, but since the other player called the skins out so late the result of the game stood.
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 03:52:43
January 06 2018 03:51 GMT
#29
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


She only realized that it actually mattered when the Roaches suddenly burrow-moved and she could not identify the ability by their look.

So yeah, on the one hand it does seem cheap because the game was almost 100% lost due to her overconfidence and the resulting whacko "I make 50 banelings" strategy.

But on the other hand it was a clear mistake by her opponent. It is not her duty to judge what could and what could not have been in the game or if it was lost 90% or 100%. It seems already nice from her to give him a rematch.
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 03:57:22
January 06 2018 03:56 GMT
#30
Hmm, I think it's likely she'd win the series regardless, but we'll see.
Djsoke
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 03:56 GMT
#31
On January 06 2018 12:51 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


She only realized that it actually mattered when the Roaches suddenly burrow-moved and she could not identify the ability by their look.

So yeah, on the one hand it does seem cheap because the game was almost 100% lost due to her overconfidence and the resulting whacko "I make 50 banelings" strategy.

But on the other hand it was a clear mistake by her opponent. It is not her duty to judge what could and what could not have been in the game or if it was lost 90% or 100%. It seems already nice from her to give him a rematch.


Are you KeSPA?

Because while I'd have to see the game, it sounds like pretty clear angle shooting to me.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 03:57:24
January 06 2018 03:56 GMT
#32
On January 06 2018 12:51 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


She only realized that it actually mattered when the Roaches suddenly burrow-moved and she could not identify the ability by their look.

So yeah, on the one hand it does seem cheap because the game was almost 100% lost due to her overconfidence and the resulting whacko "I make 50 banelings" strategy.

But on the other hand it was a clear mistake by her opponent. It is not her duty to judge what could and what could not have been in the game or if it was lost 90% or 100%. It seems already nice from her to give him a rematch.

There's no way she didn't know it was 100% over, and the roach burrow made no difference in the game up until that point. I'm going to be honest that felt pretty dirty by her
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
January 06 2018 03:57 GMT
#33
If she doesn't win 2-0, then it's definitely gonna be an odd spot.
Djsoke
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 03:59 GMT
#34
MCanning managed to qualify in a post-disruptor era. Good for him
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
January 06 2018 04:07 GMT
#35
Ok, she completely deconstructed him in the next two games, but it still feels odd... I'd feel better just calling the series a 2-1
Djsoke
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
January 06 2018 04:08 GMT
#36
On January 06 2018 12:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:51 Jacenoob wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


She only realized that it actually mattered when the Roaches suddenly burrow-moved and she could not identify the ability by their look.

So yeah, on the one hand it does seem cheap because the game was almost 100% lost due to her overconfidence and the resulting whacko "I make 50 banelings" strategy.

But on the other hand it was a clear mistake by her opponent. It is not her duty to judge what could and what could not have been in the game or if it was lost 90% or 100%. It seems already nice from her to give him a rematch.

There's no way she didn't know it was 100% over, and the roach burrow made no difference in the game up until that point. I'm going to be honest that felt pretty dirty by her


Her opponent chose a skin that hides Tunneling Claws, then researched the upgrade and used it. I find it 100% understandable to immediately call him out on that without any regards to the gamestate. Nothing KESPAesque or angleshooting.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2386 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-06 04:19:19
January 06 2018 04:18 GMT
#37
I checked the replay after the series; and yea I was 99% dead, but didnt know he had so much bank to remax at the time (killed 40 drones, roach warren, had bunch of mutas out); thought i was behind but had a small chance

I did it cuz last time something happened (windows keyboard issue at homestory cup); i lost the series cuz of it, and admin told me after the fact that if i asked they would have resumed from replay

So I immediately paused when I realized burrowmove was out that I couldnt see from skin, and asked admin, who told me we should re-game

In previous WCS events theyve been extremely clear beforehand that skins arent allowed (wasnt in channel today mostly so i'm not sure if they did today)
Progamer
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 04:18 GMT
#38
On January 06 2018 13:08 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 12:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:51 Jacenoob wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:47 pvsnp wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


What happened?

Hunta had roach skins on, which aren't allowed in WCS. But Scarlett only called him out on it when she was dead as fuck

Sounds pretty sketchy


She only realized that it actually mattered when the Roaches suddenly burrow-moved and she could not identify the ability by their look.

So yeah, on the one hand it does seem cheap because the game was almost 100% lost due to her overconfidence and the resulting whacko "I make 50 banelings" strategy.

But on the other hand it was a clear mistake by her opponent. It is not her duty to judge what could and what could not have been in the game or if it was lost 90% or 100%. It seems already nice from her to give him a rematch.

There's no way she didn't know it was 100% over, and the roach burrow made no difference in the game up until that point. I'm going to be honest that felt pretty dirty by her


Her opponent chose a skin that hides Tunneling Claws, then researched the upgrade and used it. I find it 100% understandable to immediately call him out on that without any regards to the gamestate. Nothing KESPAesque or angleshooting.

Pretty sure you can tell which skin it is before though. She would have noticed long before roach burrow came into play
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Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
January 06 2018 04:32 GMT
#39
On January 06 2018 13:18 Scarlett` wrote:
I checked the replay after the series; and yea I was 99% dead, but didnt know he had so much bank to remax at the time (killed 40 drones, roach warren, had bunch of mutas out); thought i was behind but had a small chance

I did it cuz last time something happened (windows keyboard issue at homestory cup); i lost the series cuz of it, and admin told me after the fact that if i asked they would have resumed from replay

So I immediately paused when I realized burrowmove was out that I couldnt see from skin, and asked admin, who told me we should re-game

In previous WCS events theyve been extremely clear beforehand that skins arent allowed (wasnt in channel today mostly so i'm not sure if they did today)


I remember that game at HSC
Djsoke
MarthTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany387 Posts
January 06 2018 04:38 GMT
#40
On January 06 2018 13:18 Scarlett` wrote:
I checked the replay after the series; and yea I was 99% dead, but didnt know he had so much bank to remax at the time (killed 40 drones, roach warren, had bunch of mutas out); thought i was behind but had a small chance

I did it cuz last time something happened (windows keyboard issue at homestory cup); i lost the series cuz of it, and admin told me after the fact that if i asked they would have resumed from replay

So I immediately paused when I realized burrowmove was out that I couldnt see from skin, and asked admin, who told me we should re-game

In previous WCS events theyve been extremely clear beforehand that skins arent allowed (wasnt in channel today mostly so i'm not sure if they did today)


They arent.
To quote the rules in challonge:

5.2 GAME SETTINGS
...
Each player must use default skins.
...
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 06 2018 05:00 GMT
#41
On January 06 2018 13:38 MarthTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2018 13:18 Scarlett` wrote:
I checked the replay after the series; and yea I was 99% dead, but didnt know he had so much bank to remax at the time (killed 40 drones, roach warren, had bunch of mutas out); thought i was behind but had a small chance

I did it cuz last time something happened (windows keyboard issue at homestory cup); i lost the series cuz of it, and admin told me after the fact that if i asked they would have resumed from replay

So I immediately paused when I realized burrowmove was out that I couldnt see from skin, and asked admin, who told me we should re-game

In previous WCS events theyve been extremely clear beforehand that skins arent allowed (wasnt in channel today mostly so i'm not sure if they did today)


They arent.
To quote the rules in challonge:

Show nested quote +
5.2 GAME SETTINGS
...
Each player must use default skins.
...


Re-gaming a game that was essentially over due to a violation of that rule is still an... interesting call from the admin though.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 06 2018 05:35 GMT
#42
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...

Playing fair isn't a thing in professional sports including esports. If there are rules or whatever that can be abused, a professional abuses them.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
January 06 2018 05:52 GMT
#43
Eh, resuming from replay would've sounded like the reasonable option to go for.
why even
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 06 2018 10:36 GMT
#44
Was this event covered by any streamer? Couldn't watch because of time zones but I would definitely be interested in checking out some vods.
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
January 06 2018 13:47 GMT
#45
On January 06 2018 19:36 JustPassingBy wrote:
Was this event covered by any streamer? Couldn't watch because of time zones but I would definitely be interested in checking out some vods.


https://www.twitch.tv/videos/215820114
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 06 2018 15:00 GMT
#46
Any vods of MCanning qualifying?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 06 2018 15:54 GMT
#47
Which group plays tonight?
MarthTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany387 Posts
January 06 2018 17:16 GMT
#48
On January 07 2018 00:54 Zzoram wrote:
Which group plays tonight?


All groups start at the same time.

Tomorrow is playoffs only.
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 21:50 GMT
#49
Do the groups start later today like the bracket did yesterday
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January 06 2018 21:51 GMT
#50
On January 07 2018 06:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Do the groups start later today like the bracket did yesterday


I don't think so.
Zzoram
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Canada7115 Posts
January 06 2018 22:29 GMT
#51
On January 07 2018 02:16 MarthTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2018 00:54 Zzoram wrote:
Which group plays tonight?


All groups start at the same time.

Tomorrow is playoffs only.


Will someone be streaming the Scarlett puck Mcanning group?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 06 2018 23:35 GMT
#52
On January 07 2018 07:29 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2018 02:16 MarthTV wrote:
On January 07 2018 00:54 Zzoram wrote:
Which group plays tonight?


All groups start at the same time.

Tomorrow is playoffs only.


Will someone be streaming the Scarlett puck Mcanning group?

Mcanning streams himself a lot. I don't think anyone will stream that group specifically but games from it will be
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
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January 06 2018 23:40 GMT
#53
On January 07 2018 08:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2018 07:29 Zzoram wrote:
On January 07 2018 02:16 MarthTV wrote:
On January 07 2018 00:54 Zzoram wrote:
Which group plays tonight?


All groups start at the same time.

Tomorrow is playoffs only.


Will someone be streaming the Scarlett puck Mcanning group?

Mcanning streams himself a lot. I don't think anyone will stream that group specifically but games from it will be

Wardi said he was probably going to stream that group.
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
January 07 2018 01:23 GMT
#54
Scarlett trolls every single ZvZ game 1 xd
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Boggyb
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January 07 2018 01:52 GMT
#55
MaSa Semper game 3 was pretty good. Ended in a base trade.
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Canada28396 Posts
January 07 2018 02:01 GMT
#56
Neeb gonna win this series with the power of mass recall
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
January 07 2018 02:41 GMT
#57
On January 06 2018 12:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Literal Bronze league strat out of Scarlett that game. those banes lol

edit: calling for a regame after your down 90 supply seems cheap...


Here's the VOD in question.

http://www.twitch.tv/gauntletsc2/v/215822773?sr=a&t=5961s
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 03:15:03
January 07 2018 03:10 GMT
#58
Fun Fact: Only American players were eliminated today.

Anyway, assuming the seeding works the same way as the EU Qualifier, we have:

(P)Neeb vs (Z)NoRegreT
(Z)Scarlett vs (Z)JonSnow
(T)MaSa vs (P)puCK
(Z)TRUE vs (T)Semper
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Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2386 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 03:30:19
January 07 2018 03:26 GMT
#59
On January 07 2018 12:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Fun Fact: Only American players were eliminated today.

Anyway, assuming the seeding works the same way as the EU Qualifier, we have:

(P)Neeb vs (Z)NoRegreT
(Z)Scarlett vs (Z)JonSnow
(T)MaSa vs (P)puCK
(Z)TRUE vs (T)Semper

should be >

1a neeb true
1b scarlett masa

2a jonsnow semper
2b puck noregret

noregret can’t play true -> neeb vs noregret
masa can’t play semper -> masa vs jonsnow
-> scarlett vs semper
-> true vs puck

edit: http://challonge.com/t5uqzt5b
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 07 2018 03:27 GMT
#60
On January 07 2018 12:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Fun Fact: Only American players were eliminated today.

Anyway, assuming the seeding works the same way as the EU Qualifier, we have:

(P)Neeb vs (Z)NoRegreT
(Z)Scarlett vs (Z)JonSnow
(T)MaSa vs (P)puCK
(Z)TRUE vs (T)Semper


Bad luck for Neeb to have to face the two times Code S zerg bonjwa.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 07 2018 03:35 GMT
#61
On January 07 2018 12:26 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2018 12:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Fun Fact: Only American players were eliminated today.

Anyway, assuming the seeding works the same way as the EU Qualifier, we have:

(P)Neeb vs (Z)NoRegreT
(Z)Scarlett vs (Z)JonSnow
(T)MaSa vs (P)puCK
(Z)TRUE vs (T)Semper

should be >

1a neeb true
1b scarlett masa

2a jonsnow semper
2b puck noregret

noregret can’t play true -> neeb vs noregret
masa can’t play semper -> masa vs jonsnow
-> scarlett vs semper
-> true vs puck

edit: http://challonge.com/t5uqzt5b


Cool, thanks. Probably makes for a better bracket then mine anyway
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 07 2018 03:42 GMT
#62
I hope Masa or Jonsnow or whoever makes it over Noregret and Scarlett. Nothing against them, but those two are already playing in GSL so let other players go to WCS.
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January 07 2018 04:12 GMT
#63
SHURAAAA
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Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 19:44:42
January 07 2018 19:44 GMT
#64
So are we 100% sure the bracket for the NA qualifier is right? EU is a disaster
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ZigguratOfUr
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Iraq16955 Posts
January 07 2018 19:59 GMT
#65
On January 08 2018 04:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So are we 100% sure the bracket for the NA qualifier is right? EU is a disaster


Looks correct to me.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 20:17:54
January 07 2018 20:02 GMT
#66
On January 08 2018 04:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So are we 100% sure the bracket for the NA qualifier is right? EU is a disaster

nvm
very illegal and very uncool
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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 07 2018 20:14 GMT
#67
On January 08 2018 05:02 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 04:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So are we 100% sure the bracket for the NA qualifier is right? EU is a disaster

It seems right unless the 1st and 2nd of each group can't meet until the final, which would be a stupid rule since only the top 4 matters as qualifying spots so as long as 1st/2nd of each group don't meet in Ro8 should be fine. Otherwise, JonSnow and puCK need to switch places.

(Wiki)2018 WCS Leipzig/Qualifiers/North America

Edit: the stupid rule seems to be enforced for the EU qualifier, which is why they re-did the bracket. "Oh no, it's possible for the first and second group stage finishers to meet in semi-final again, even if they didn't play against each other in group stage!" Stupid rule is stupid.

Edit 2: Both Elazer/Harstem and Nerchio/Bly didn't even play each other in group stage despite being in the same groups.


There's no rule about the 1st and 2nd in a group not being able to meet until the final. The EU qualifier brackets were re-done since they ignored seeding rules.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 07 2018 20:16 GMT
#68
On January 08 2018 05:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 05:02 argonautdice wrote:
On January 08 2018 04:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So are we 100% sure the bracket for the NA qualifier is right? EU is a disaster

It seems right unless the 1st and 2nd of each group can't meet until the final, which would be a stupid rule since only the top 4 matters as qualifying spots so as long as 1st/2nd of each group don't meet in Ro8 should be fine. Otherwise, JonSnow and puCK need to switch places.

(Wiki)2018 WCS Leipzig/Qualifiers/North America

Edit: the stupid rule seems to be enforced for the EU qualifier, which is why they re-did the bracket. "Oh no, it's possible for the first and second group stage finishers to meet in semi-final again, even if they didn't play against each other in group stage!" Stupid rule is stupid.

Edit 2: Both Elazer/Harstem and Nerchio/Bly didn't even play each other in group stage despite being in the same groups.


There's no rule about the 1st and 2nd in a group not being able to meet until the final. The EU qualifier brackets were re-done since they ignored seeding rules.


I see. I stand corrected. My mistake.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 07 2018 23:54 GMT
#69
Who is streaming the bracket and are the matches in order top to bottom as per the liquipedia bracket?
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 08 2018 00:08 GMT
#70
I see indystarcraft streaming Neeb vs Noregret right now
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United States97276 Posts
January 08 2018 00:40 GMT
#71
Shura is toying with Semper
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Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 08 2018 00:43 GMT
#72
was that trolling
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 08 2018 01:10 GMT
#73
I know nobody likes ZvZ, but having 2 different English casts of the same series is kind of lame.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 01:12 GMT
#74
On January 08 2018 10:10 Boggyb wrote:
I know nobody likes ZvZ, but having 2 different English casts of the same series is kind of lame.

I don't think anyone is doing Scarlett vs TRUE, it's kind of lame to say the least
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Alexander paradise
Profile Joined December 2017
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January 08 2018 01:14 GMT
#75
Scarlett is after masa
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 08 2018 01:16 GMT
#76
A good example of Keep Calm and Macro On from Neeb.
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
January 08 2018 01:19 GMT
#77
On January 08 2018 10:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 10:10 Boggyb wrote:
I know nobody likes ZvZ, but having 2 different English casts of the same series is kind of lame.

I don't think anyone is doing Scarlett vs TRUE, it's kind of lame to say the least

Wardii said that he was going to cast both, Masa/Neeb first.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 01:23 GMT
#78
On January 08 2018 10:19 Soke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 10:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 08 2018 10:10 Boggyb wrote:
I know nobody likes ZvZ, but having 2 different English casts of the same series is kind of lame.

I don't think anyone is doing Scarlett vs TRUE, it's kind of lame to say the least

Wardii said that he was going to cast both, Masa/Neeb first.

I totally misheard wardiii then earlier
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 08 2018 01:34 GMT
#79
NA seems far more cut and dry than EU
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 08 2018 01:41 GMT
#80
On January 08 2018 10:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
NA seems far more cut and dry than EU

That's what happens without ZvZ
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January 08 2018 01:41 GMT
#81
On January 08 2018 10:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
NA seems far more cut and dry than EU

so far the only difference is that EU got a 3-1 in the first round instead of 4 3-0s
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Profile Joined January 2017
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January 08 2018 01:42 GMT
#82
They were holding Scarlett TRUE so it could be cast?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 01:57 GMT
#83
I like that the spire has been coming back a bit in ZvZ. Makes it a more interesting matchup
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 08 2018 01:58 GMT
#84
On January 08 2018 10:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I like that the spire has been coming back a bit in ZvZ. Makes it a more interesting matchup

there was nowhere to go but up
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Last Edited: 2018-01-08 02:04:51
January 08 2018 02:04 GMT
#85
On January 08 2018 10:41 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 10:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
NA seems far more cut and dry than EU

so far the only difference is that EU got a 3-1 in the first round instead of 4 3-0s


but it FEELS like there's a chance in EU. No offense to Noregret/Jonsnow/Puck/Semper but I don't think anyone was thinking they'd make the round of 4 over their respective opponents. The only region that feels more cut and dry than NA is LatAM.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 08 2018 02:07 GMT
#86
On January 08 2018 11:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 10:41 Shellshock wrote:
On January 08 2018 10:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
NA seems far more cut and dry than EU

so far the only difference is that EU got a 3-1 in the first round instead of 4 3-0s


but it FEELS like there's a chance in EU. No offense to Noregret/Jonsnow/Puck/Semper but I don't think anyone was thinking they'd make the round of 4 over their respective opponents. The only region that feels more cut and dry than NA is LatAM.


I felt like JonSnow had a chance. He's made it in the past (Semper too for that matter).
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2018-01-08 02:08:38
January 08 2018 02:08 GMT
#87
I thought Semper had a chance if Scarlett's recent ZvT struggles weren't just a product of playing SpeCial.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 02:24 GMT
#88
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that
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United States97276 Posts
January 08 2018 02:27 GMT
#89
scarlett 3-0
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January 08 2018 02:28 GMT
#90
On January 08 2018 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that

Have they ever had a good macro series?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 02:29 GMT
#91
On January 08 2018 11:28 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that

Have they ever had a good macro series?

Ya. Those usually end in Neeb 3-0ing though
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 08 2018 02:32 GMT
#92
On January 08 2018 11:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 11:28 Boggyb wrote:
On January 08 2018 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that

Have they ever had a good macro series?

Ya. Those usually end in Neeb 3-0ing though

are you implying that Scarlett is scared to play Neeb straight up? You sound like The_Templar right now
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Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2386 Posts
January 08 2018 02:35 GMT
#93
On January 08 2018 11:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 11:28 Boggyb wrote:
On January 08 2018 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that

Have they ever had a good macro series?

Ya. Those usually end in Neeb 3-0ing though

last time he lost 3 macro games ??
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 08 2018 02:38 GMT
#94
On January 08 2018 11:35 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 11:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 08 2018 11:28 Boggyb wrote:
On January 08 2018 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that

Have they ever had a good macro series?

Ya. Those usually end in Neeb 3-0ing though

last time he lost 3 macro games ??

GAME ENDING TIME SPOILER
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Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 02:39 GMT
#95
On January 08 2018 11:35 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 11:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 08 2018 11:28 Boggyb wrote:
On January 08 2018 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scarlett and Neeb both looking insanely good today. This should be a great finals.

Or a massive cheesefest. Actually probably that

Have they ever had a good macro series?

Ya. Those usually end in Neeb 3-0ing though

last time he lost 3 macro games ??

Ya your right, the dynamic has changed a bit as of late. The old jokes don't work as well anymore.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 02:55 GMT
#96
Wow that adept memes back in full force
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Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 08 2018 02:56 GMT
#97
Adepts=Skill
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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January 08 2018 02:56 GMT
#98
Neeb just swept 2 Code S Zergs, gap confirmed closed
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January 08 2018 02:56 GMT
#99
Neeb's wall on Abyssal was interesting. I might have to go back and give that a second look.
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United States790 Posts
January 08 2018 02:56 GMT
#100
Adepts : )
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Alexander paradise
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January 08 2018 03:02 GMT
#101
Scarlett still is in the wcs in Leipzig so not bad in end would have been nice to see her win but I'll just wait till Leipzig to see her win it all.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-08 08:48:33
January 08 2018 08:44 GMT
#102
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Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-08 11:52:55
January 08 2018 11:50 GMT
#103
Neeb 13-1, what a fuking god
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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 08 2018 12:06 GMT
#104
An all 3-0 bracket!
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January 08 2018 18:32 GMT
#105
vods of the finals anywhere?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 08 2018 19:07 GMT
#106
On January 09 2018 03:32 SCMasterGoD wrote:
vods of the finals anywhere?

twitch.tv/wardiii
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