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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12081 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 14:43:54
August 03 2017 14:43 GMT
#821
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-


It was rather "unlucky" to get only one KR vs KR match out of a half random draw in the first place.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 03 2017 14:47 GMT
#822
On August 03 2017 23:38 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-

You have forgotten Nerchio.

I think Nerchio advancing is a decent bet. Dark doesn't have a top-tier ZvZ result in the last 3 months.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
August 03 2017 14:48 GMT
#823
On August 03 2017 23:43 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-


It was rather "unlucky" to get only one KR vs KR match out of a half random draw in the first place.

Well, I mean more specifically for Major/Kela. But yeah, I'm not sure if I like the direct bracket format when doing these foreign/KR tournies. I believe the double elim. group format is much better for first round.

Still enjoyable to watch, but if Major ends up the only one, then we're all just going to sigh ):
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 03 2017 14:53 GMT
#824
On August 03 2017 23:47 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:38 Diabolique wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-

You have forgotten Nerchio.

I think Nerchio advancing is a decent bet. Dark doesn't have a top-tier ZvZ result in the last 3 months.


And Nerchio does?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 14:58:42
August 03 2017 14:57 GMT
#825
On August 03 2017 23:47 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:38 Diabolique wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-

You have forgotten Nerchio.

I think Nerchio advancing is a decent bet. Dark doesn't have a top-tier ZvZ result in the last 3 months.

I am actually not sure that Nerchio does (have a top tier ZvZ in the last 3 months). Didn't he recently lose to all of Elazer, Snute, Scarlett and Serral?
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
August 03 2017 15:00 GMT
#826
When did Nerchio played Scarlett since Nation Wars, which was almost half a year ago?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 03 2017 15:02 GMT
#827
On August 04 2017 00:00 bulya wrote:
When did Nerchio played Scarlett since Nation Wars, which was almost half a year ago?

For me, half a year ago is like yesterday.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12081 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 15:03:30
August 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#828
On August 03 2017 23:48 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:43 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-


It was rather "unlucky" to get only one KR vs KR match out of a half random draw in the first place.

Well, I mean more specifically for Major/Kela. But yeah, I'm not sure if I like the direct bracket format when doing these foreign/KR tournies. I believe the double elim. group format is much better for first round.

Still enjoyable to watch, but if Major ends up the only one, then we're all just going to sigh ):


It's hard to give an estimation of course but with four matches where the korean has the advantage to the tune of I guess 60-70% it's not that unlikely that a foreigner would win one, given that it's Bo5 I don't think we have 50% chance but we're probably something like 40% to get one through.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 03 2017 15:05 GMT
#829
On August 04 2017 00:03 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:48 Blargh wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:43 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-


It was rather "unlucky" to get only one KR vs KR match out of a half random draw in the first place.

Well, I mean more specifically for Major/Kela. But yeah, I'm not sure if I like the direct bracket format when doing these foreign/KR tournies. I believe the double elim. group format is much better for first round.

Still enjoyable to watch, but if Major ends up the only one, then we're all just going to sigh ):


It's hard to give an estimation of course but with four matches where the korean has the advantage to the tune of I guess 60-70% it's not that unlikely that a foreigner would win one, given that it's Bo5 I don't think we have 50% chance but we're probably something like 40% to get one through.

Scarlett, the foreign hope, will dismantle TY.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 03 2017 15:07 GMT
#830
On August 04 2017 00:03 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:48 Blargh wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:43 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-


It was rather "unlucky" to get only one KR vs KR match out of a half random draw in the first place.

Well, I mean more specifically for Major/Kela. But yeah, I'm not sure if I like the direct bracket format when doing these foreign/KR tournies. I believe the double elim. group format is much better for first round.

Still enjoyable to watch, but if Major ends up the only one, then we're all just going to sigh ):


It's hard to give an estimation of course but with four matches where the korean has the advantage to the tune of I guess 60-70% it's not that unlikely that a foreigner would win one, given that it's Bo5 I don't think we have 50% chance but we're probably something like 40% to get one through.

If you think the bo5 is "only" in favor of like 60-70% for the koreans then getting in at least one foreigner should be pretty high tbh
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12081 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 15:27:44
August 03 2017 15:13 GMT
#831
On August 04 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 00:03 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:48 Blargh wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:43 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-


It was rather "unlucky" to get only one KR vs KR match out of a half random draw in the first place.

Well, I mean more specifically for Major/Kela. But yeah, I'm not sure if I like the direct bracket format when doing these foreign/KR tournies. I believe the double elim. group format is much better for first round.

Still enjoyable to watch, but if Major ends up the only one, then we're all just going to sigh ):


It's hard to give an estimation of course but with four matches where the korean has the advantage to the tune of I guess 60-70% it's not that unlikely that a foreigner would win one, given that it's Bo5 I don't think we have 50% chance but we're probably something like 40% to get one through.

If you think the bo5 is "only" in favor of like 60-70% for the koreans then getting in at least one foreigner should be pretty high tbh


Yeah I meant for a single map, if it's 35% at Bo5 you have 4 shots at 35% and you'd be unlucky to not win one. You need 25% at Bo5 level to be likely to win 1 out of 4 (obviously). Tbh I think some of the match-ups are above that, around 30% at Bo5 level and some below at around 20%, should probably round up at around 25 and expect a cointoss.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 03 2017 16:31 GMT
#832
On August 03 2017 23:57 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:47 Boggyb wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:38 Diabolique wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-

You have forgotten Nerchio.

I think Nerchio advancing is a decent bet. Dark doesn't have a top-tier ZvZ result in the last 3 months.

I am actually not sure that Nerchio does (have a top tier ZvZ in the last 3 months). Didn't he recently lose to all of Elazer, Snute, Scarlett and Serral?

Last 3 months of results vs. top non-Korean Zerg:
1-3 Elazer
4-1 Snute
0-3 Serral
2-1 Snute
0-2 Snute
0-2 Serral
2-1 TRUE
3-1 Elazer
2-1 Elazer
1-2 Elazer
0-2 Elazer

That's a mixed bag, but is probably comparably better than Dark though Dark was playing Koreans and Nerchio was not.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
August 03 2017 18:22 GMT
#833
Any recommended matches?
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
August 03 2017 18:54 GMT
#834
On August 04 2017 03:22 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

ByuN vs Serral was excellent, all five matches (well maybe not the fifth).
Others were all very onesided.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10053 Posts
August 04 2017 04:04 GMT
#835
iA and Serral played so good... but iA really impressed me a lot, his series vs TY at IEM was really good too ... this kid could become a real monster if he keeps playing.
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
August 04 2017 10:27 GMT
#836
On August 03 2017 20:25 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:22 JokerAi wrote:
Showtime sv Soo is realy unfair because showtimes pvsz ist is worst matchup.


You think he's the only one forced to play his worst matchup? Better yet, you think progamers should have the luxury not to play their worst matchup?

*looks at nationality*

Nevermind... carry on.

User was warned for this post


I think if they make a global like koreans vs world the have to make it fair for all. Now it is a 100% lose for the most player Scarlett, ShoWTimE, iAsonu, Kelazhur, Nerchio. You like watching games who you know 100% who wins? Then you can watch bonze vs diamond is the same. you dont need a tournament who all know the first round is time waste. All palyer will be destroyed in this round.
http://www.twitch.tv/jokersfun
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
August 04 2017 10:47 GMT
#837
On August 04 2017 19:27 JokerAi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:25 207aicila wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:22 JokerAi wrote:
Showtime sv Soo is realy unfair because showtimes pvsz ist is worst matchup.


You think he's the only one forced to play his worst matchup? Better yet, you think progamers should have the luxury not to play their worst matchup?

*looks at nationality*

Nevermind... carry on.

User was warned for this post


I think if they make a global like koreans vs world the have to make it fair for all. Now it is a 100% lose for the most player Scarlett, ShoWTimE, iAsonu, Kelazhur, Nerchio. You like watching games who you know 100% who wins? Then you can watch bonze vs diamond is the same. you dont need a tournament who all know the first round is time waste. All palyer will be destroyed in this round.

It was fair for all. Invited players were seeded and their opponents (the voted-in players) were randomly drawn against them.
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JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-04 12:26:52
August 04 2017 12:17 GMT
#838
y but the randomly drawn is bad for 80% of foreigner.
Example
Worst matchup / best matchup
Scarlett z vs t / z vs z
ShoWTimE p vs z / p vs t
Nerchio z vs z / z vs t
Serral z vs t / z vs z

Look at the stats. Scarlett vs ty is instand lose because scarletts worst matchup and ty is best matchup. ty have 64% winrate. Is like let the best fight vs the worst. on this lvl is bronze vs GM. ShoWTimE stays for the same problem. Serral doing realy well but is his worst matchup to. Nerchio is even with dark. Kelazhur i think never won a single best of vs SpeCial in brazil (american cups).
You can handle some of this games if you switching some players serral vs sos. showtime vs byun. Scarlett vs dark.
Nerchio vs Stats. i dont understand anyway why Stats play vs herO?
http://www.twitch.tv/jokersfun
JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
August 04 2017 13:56 GMT
#839
first round is over and waht a surprise only 2 foreigner in the next round. Only 2 games without bloodbath ShoWTimE and Serral.
http://www.twitch.tv/jokersfun
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