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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 13:50:11
August 03 2017 13:49 GMT
#801
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

I feel dumber after reading this. All I have to say
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
August 03 2017 13:50 GMT
#802
It's a bit sad there is no loser bracket tho, herO and Serral had potential.
WriterMaru
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12083 Posts
August 03 2017 13:51 GMT
#803
On August 03 2017 22:33 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:30 Shellshock wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:30 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:28 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:26 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:25 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:22 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:21 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:20 D-light wrote:
lol from potential 3-0 to 2-3

xD the Finnish way

0-0 is also a potential 3-0 so I guess 2-1 to 2-3 is more accurate

Wow really? Is that actually true?

You underestimate your country that's all I am saying
At least regarding sc2

I prefer to look it the way it looks the worst and how he threw the most.

https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/standings/
At least you got a good shot at having one player at Blizzcon
Our 2nd best player is retired...

I understand how frustrating it is tho, I am a MKP fan

Our 2nd best player is horrible twitter jokester who didn't eat a shoe...

Luolis?

Zhugeliang

(...while France has 37 players listed on aligulac while Finland has 5)


Pretty easy to get a bunch of players listed when you have underdogs qualifiers every other day, to be fair
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
August 03 2017 13:55 GMT
#804
On August 03 2017 22:48 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

The only foreigner vs Korean 0-3 was iAsonu vs Inno which on paper is the most one-sided match in the Ro16

That's TY vs. Scarlett. iAsonu just got out of a GSL style group by beating the two most recent GSL champions. Scarlett ends GSL style groups in last place with a single win.

Scarlett's stronger against Terran in straight-up games than iA, and TY isn't as strong against Zerg as Inno is.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 03 2017 13:56 GMT
#805
On August 03 2017 22:51 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:33 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:30 Shellshock wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:30 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:28 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:26 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:25 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:22 D-light wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:21 Poopi wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:20 D-light wrote:
lol from potential 3-0 to 2-3

xD the Finnish way

0-0 is also a potential 3-0 so I guess 2-1 to 2-3 is more accurate

Wow really? Is that actually true?

You underestimate your country that's all I am saying
At least regarding sc2

I prefer to look it the way it looks the worst and how he threw the most.

https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/standings/
At least you got a good shot at having one player at Blizzcon
Our 2nd best player is retired...

I understand how frustrating it is tho, I am a MKP fan

Our 2nd best player is horrible twitter jokester who didn't eat a shoe...

Luolis?

Zhugeliang

(...while France has 37 players listed on aligulac while Finland has 5)


Pretty easy to get a bunch of players listed when you have underdogs qualifiers every other day, to be fair

In conclusion: France=aliev, Finland=ded
why even
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16668 Posts
August 03 2017 14:01 GMT
#806
On August 03 2017 22:49 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

I feel dumber after reading this. All I have to say

play more random , like the good old days, it'll increase your mentality agility sir
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8229 Posts
August 03 2017 14:02 GMT
#807
On August 03 2017 22:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

It's amazing how you did not seem to notice that out of those 3 "stomps":
- 1 was KR vs KR
- 2nd was LatAm vs LatAm
- 3rd was fucking INnoVation playing a Zerg
Liquipedia lists country flags for all the players, Koreans are the ones with a white rectangle and a blue/red circle in the middle (not to be confused with Japan which has a full red circle and no symbols in the corners of the flag)

I'm kind of considering Major to be an adopted Korean like how America adopted Polt.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 03 2017 14:04 GMT
#808
On August 03 2017 22:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:48 Boggyb wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

The only foreigner vs Korean 0-3 was iAsonu vs Inno which on paper is the most one-sided match in the Ro16

That's TY vs. Scarlett. iAsonu just got out of a GSL style group by beating the two most recent GSL champions. Scarlett ends GSL style groups in last place with a single win.

Scarlett's stronger against Terran in straight-up games than iA, and TY isn't as strong against Zerg as Inno is.

In Starcraft, you don't have to play straight-up if you don't want to, so the only thing that matters is results. iA has beaten a top terran recently. Scarlett has not.

Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12083 Posts
August 03 2017 14:05 GMT
#809
On August 03 2017 23:02 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

It's amazing how you did not seem to notice that out of those 3 "stomps":
- 1 was KR vs KR
- 2nd was LatAm vs LatAm
- 3rd was fucking INnoVation playing a Zerg
Liquipedia lists country flags for all the players, Koreans are the ones with a white rectangle and a blue/red circle in the middle (not to be confused with Japan which has a full red circle and no symbols in the corners of the flag)

I'm kind of considering Major to be an adopted Korean like how America adopted Polt.


That's not convenient at all.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8229 Posts
August 03 2017 14:10 GMT
#810
On another note, if this is supposed to be GSL vs the World, why did herO have to play Stats? They're both in GSL. Was it the way the groups were seeded?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
August 03 2017 14:13 GMT
#811
On August 03 2017 23:10 geokilla wrote:
On another note, if this is supposed to be GSL vs the World, why did herO have to play Stats? They're both in GSL. Was it the way the groups were seeded?

8 players were seeded and Gyuri drew their opponents at random.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 03 2017 14:18 GMT
#812
Unfortunate for Serral, ByuN's ZvT is maybe weakest it's been in a while due to the reaper nerf. I thought he had the best chance of any foreigner to beat a korean

Also, herO is confirmed a scrub who only wins tournaments off PvT bullshit hehe
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12083 Posts
August 03 2017 14:24 GMT
#813
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 03 2017 14:27 GMT
#814
On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.

Lose 0-3 to $O$?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
August 03 2017 14:28 GMT
#815
On August 03 2017 23:04 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 22:55 Elentos wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:48 Boggyb wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:
On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something?

You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT.

I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.

The only foreigner vs Korean 0-3 was iAsonu vs Inno which on paper is the most one-sided match in the Ro16

That's TY vs. Scarlett. iAsonu just got out of a GSL style group by beating the two most recent GSL champions. Scarlett ends GSL style groups in last place with a single win.

Scarlett's stronger against Terran in straight-up games than iA, and TY isn't as strong against Zerg as Inno is.

In Starcraft, you don't have to play straight-up if you don't want to, so the only thing that matters is results. iA has beaten a top terran recently. Scarlett has not.


Yeah I don't get why people even dare to think that there is only one true way of playing or whatever.
I find mech boring for both players in TvT but if you want to win enough to bore yourself to death you are free to do so, it just requires a different skillset than standard bio.

MoMaN is a bit of a cheeky & cheesy player but he often has the mental edge against ToD even when the latter is better.
Being able to play a style to such high level is what matters, not which style is it.
WriterMaru
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 03 2017 14:29 GMT
#816
On August 03 2017 23:27 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.

Lose 0-3 to $O$?

My words :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12083 Posts
August 03 2017 14:31 GMT
#817
On August 03 2017 23:27 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.

Lose 0-3 to $O$?


See this is an odd year so sOs will win Blizzcon, so he needs to win GSL to qualify. Since he's focused on GSL he can't focus on GSL vs the World, which means Neeb has a higher chance. Everything is connected!
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 03 2017 14:34 GMT
#818
On August 03 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 23:27 Boggyb wrote:
On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.

Lose 0-3 to $O$?


See this is an odd year so sOs will win Blizzcon, so he needs to win GSL to qualify. Since he's focused on GSL he can't focus on GSL vs the World, which means Neeb has a higher chance. Everything is connected!

Yes, everything is connected. Always when sOs was standing against the wall and was not qualifying for BlizzCon, his wake up call was always a tournament with foreigners, which he has won. Since that moment, he was winning everything.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
August 03 2017 14:37 GMT
#819
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 03 2017 14:38 GMT
#820
On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-

You have forgotten Nerchio.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
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