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On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some.
I feel dumber after reading this. All I have to say 
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It's a bit sad there is no loser bracket tho, herO and Serral had potential.
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On August 03 2017 22:33 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:30 Shellshock wrote:On August 03 2017 22:30 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:28 Poopi wrote:On August 03 2017 22:26 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:25 Poopi wrote:On August 03 2017 22:22 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:21 Poopi wrote:On August 03 2017 22:20 D-light wrote:
lol from potential 3-0 to 2-3
xD the Finnish way 0-0 is also a potential 3-0 so I guess 2-1 to 2-3 is more accurate Wow really? Is that actually true? You underestimate your country that's all I am saying  At least regarding sc2 I prefer to look it the way it looks the worst and how he threw the most. https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/standings/At least you got a good shot at having one player at Blizzcon Our 2nd best player is retired... I understand how frustrating it is tho, I am a MKP fan Our 2nd best player is horrible twitter jokester who didn't eat a shoe... Luolis? Zhugeliang (...while France has 37 players listed on aligulac while Finland has 5)
Pretty easy to get a bunch of players listed when you have underdogs qualifiers every other day, to be fair
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On August 03 2017 22:48 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some. The only foreigner vs Korean 0-3 was iAsonu vs Inno which on paper is the most one-sided match in the Ro16 That's TY vs. Scarlett. iAsonu just got out of a GSL style group by beating the two most recent GSL champions. Scarlett ends GSL style groups in last place with a single win.
Scarlett's stronger against Terran in straight-up games than iA, and TY isn't as strong against Zerg as Inno is.
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On August 03 2017 22:51 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:33 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:30 Shellshock wrote:On August 03 2017 22:30 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:28 Poopi wrote:On August 03 2017 22:26 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:25 Poopi wrote:On August 03 2017 22:22 D-light wrote:On August 03 2017 22:21 Poopi wrote:On August 03 2017 22:20 D-light wrote:
lol from potential 3-0 to 2-3
xD the Finnish way 0-0 is also a potential 3-0 so I guess 2-1 to 2-3 is more accurate Wow really? Is that actually true? You underestimate your country that's all I am saying At least regarding sc2 I prefer to look it the way it looks the worst and how he threw the most. https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/standings/At least you got a good shot at having one player at Blizzcon Our 2nd best player is retired... I understand how frustrating it is tho, I am a MKP fan Our 2nd best player is horrible twitter jokester who didn't eat a shoe... Luolis? Zhugeliang (...while France has 37 players listed on aligulac while Finland has 5) Pretty easy to get a bunch of players listed when you have underdogs qualifiers every other day, to be fair
In conclusion: France=aliev, Finland=ded
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On August 03 2017 22:49 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some. I feel dumber after reading this. All I have to say
play more random , like the good old days, it'll increase your mentality agility sir
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On August 03 2017 22:40 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some. It's amazing how you did not seem to notice that out of those 3 "stomps": - 1 was KR vs KR - 2nd was LatAm vs LatAm - 3rd was fucking INnoVation playing a Zerg Liquipedia lists country flags for all the players, Koreans are the ones with a white rectangle and a blue/red circle in the middle (not to be confused with Japan which has a full red circle and no symbols in the corners of the flag)
I'm kind of considering Major to be an adopted Korean like how America adopted Polt.
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On August 03 2017 22:55 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:48 Boggyb wrote:On August 03 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some. The only foreigner vs Korean 0-3 was iAsonu vs Inno which on paper is the most one-sided match in the Ro16 That's TY vs. Scarlett. iAsonu just got out of a GSL style group by beating the two most recent GSL champions. Scarlett ends GSL style groups in last place with a single win. Scarlett's stronger against Terran in straight-up games than iA, and TY isn't as strong against Zerg as Inno is.
In Starcraft, you don't have to play straight-up if you don't want to, so the only thing that matters is results. iA has beaten a top terran recently. Scarlett has not.
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On August 03 2017 23:02 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:40 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some. It's amazing how you did not seem to notice that out of those 3 "stomps": - 1 was KR vs KR - 2nd was LatAm vs LatAm - 3rd was fucking INnoVation playing a Zerg Liquipedia lists country flags for all the players, Koreans are the ones with a white rectangle and a blue/red circle in the middle (not to be confused with Japan which has a full red circle and no symbols in the corners of the flag) I'm kind of considering Major to be an adopted Korean like how America adopted Polt.
That's not convenient at all.
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On another note, if this is supposed to be GSL vs the World, why did herO have to play Stats? They're both in GSL. Was it the way the groups were seeded?
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On August 03 2017 23:10 geokilla wrote:
On another note, if this is supposed to be GSL vs the World, why did herO have to play Stats? They're both in GSL. Was it the way the groups were seeded?
8 players were seeded and Gyuri drew their opponents at random.
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Unfortunate for Serral, ByuN's ZvT is maybe weakest it's been in a while due to the reaper nerf. I thought he had the best chance of any foreigner to beat a korean
Also, herO is confirmed a scrub who only wins tournaments off PvT bullshit hehe
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Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.
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On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now.
Lose 0-3 to $O$?
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On August 03 2017 23:04 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 22:55 Elentos wrote:On August 03 2017 22:48 Boggyb wrote:On August 03 2017 22:41 Elentos wrote:On August 03 2017 22:37 geokilla wrote:On August 03 2017 22:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 03 2017 22:32 geokilla wrote:
I thought the skill level between Koreans and foreigners was not huge? What happened here? Did I miss something? You probably missed the last series where the reigning Blizzcon champions barely beat a European whose worst matchup is ZvT. I caught only game 4 and it seemed like Serral got outplayed. Then I checked the results for today and it was mainly 3-0 stomps. Which got me thinking about the skill level differences, or lack of as claimed by some. The only foreigner vs Korean 0-3 was iAsonu vs Inno which on paper is the most one-sided match in the Ro16 That's TY vs. Scarlett. iAsonu just got out of a GSL style group by beating the two most recent GSL champions. Scarlett ends GSL style groups in last place with a single win. Scarlett's stronger against Terran in straight-up games than iA, and TY isn't as strong against Zerg as Inno is. In Starcraft, you don't have to play straight-up if you don't want to, so the only thing that matters is results. iA has beaten a top terran recently. Scarlett has not.
Yeah I don't get why people even dare to think that there is only one true way of playing or whatever.
I find mech boring for both players in TvT but if you want to win enough to bore yourself to death you are free to do so, it just requires a different skillset than standard bio.
MoMaN is a bit of a cheeky & cheesy player but he often has the mental edge against ToD even when the latter is better.
Being able to play a style to such high level is what matters, not which style is it.
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On August 03 2017 23:27 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now. Lose 0-3 to $O$?
My words :-)
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On August 03 2017 23:27 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now. Lose 0-3 to $O$?
See this is an odd year so sOs will win Blizzcon, so he needs to win GSL to qualify. Since he's focused on GSL he can't focus on GSL vs the World, which means Neeb has a higher chance. Everything is connected!
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On August 03 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 23:27 Boggyb wrote:On August 03 2017 23:24 Nebuchad wrote:
Alright Neeb, you know what's left to do now. Lose 0-3 to $O$? See this is an odd year so sOs will win Blizzcon, so he needs to win GSL to qualify. Since he's focused on GSL he can't focus on GSL vs the World, which means Neeb has a higher chance. Everything is connected!
Yes, everything is connected. Always when sOs was standing against the wall and was not qualifying for BlizzCon, his wake up call was always a tournament with foreigners, which he has won. Since that moment, he was winning everything.
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It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-
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On August 03 2017 23:37 Blargh wrote:
It's too bad our only foreigner in Ro8 will be from 100% bracket luck in getting a foreigner opponent -_-
You have forgotten Nerchio.
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EPT
