EPTSuper disappointing.
[SSL 2017] Challenger Stage 2 - Week 3 - Page 10
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imre
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geokilla
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On May 20 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote: So is TY knocked out of SSL? Nop 2-1 atm | ||
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Elentos
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On May 20 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote: So is TY knocked out of SSL? No, not at all, what | ||
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Weavel
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Ansibled
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Elentos
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On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote: TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series. Super disappointing. True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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 Scouting would be a useful skill toi have | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On May 20 2017 23:48 Elentos wrote: Exactly. ByuN never plays different from this. TY is a total moron for not playing safe. He's the better player if they go straight-up. Like when he played vs herO when he knows how herO plays yet still plays like he doesn't lol, brain-farts too often | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On May 20 2017 23:51 Elentos wrote: True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP. You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway. His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro. w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again. | ||
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Elentos
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On May 20 2017 23:54 imre wrote: You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway. His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro. w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again. The build is totally fine for macro games and it can hold proxy reapers too. But you gotta scout and try to be somewhat safe. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On May 20 2017 23:57 Elentos wrote: The build is totally fine for macro games and it can hold proxy reapers too. But you gotta scout and try to be somewhat safe. I disagree, it's not the safest build out there and there aren't many outcomes that gives you a lead after the early game. Like reaper reaper cyclone into whatever from the starport is almost always a better build than this one. + it's quite tight on minerals so scouting cuts a bit too much income. I like it as a random ladder player, but for top tier TvT I really think it's a bad build except on a few maps (eg Proxima Station) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On May 21 2017 00:01 imre wrote: I disagree, it's not the safest build out there and there aren't many outcomes that gives you a lead after the early game. Like reaper reaper cyclone into whatever from the starport is almost always a better build than this one. + it's quite tight on minerals so scouting cuts a bit too much income. I like it as a random ladder player, but for top tier TvT I really think it's a bad build except on a few maps (eg Proxima Station) it doesn't give you a lead but if you scout and react accordingly it should let you at least play the game from an even position. | ||
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Elentos
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On May 21 2017 00:01 imre wrote: I disagree, it's not the safest build out there and there aren't many outcomes that gives you a lead after the early game. Like reaper reaper cyclone into whatever from the starport is almost always a better build than this one. + it's quite tight on minerals so scouting cuts a bit too much income. I like it as a random ladder player, but for top tier TvT I really think it's a bad build except on a few maps (eg Proxima Station) At top level TvT most people go reaper-reaper-hellion instead of cyclone, in which case the build is absolutely fine, you may not take a lead but you won't fall far behind if your defense is good. On Whirlwind TY would have been fine if he didn't lose a full health hellion to 2 red HP reapers. | ||
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