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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 20 2017 14:48 GMT
#181
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.
Zest fanboy.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
May 20 2017 14:49 GMT
#182
So is TY knocked out of SSL?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 20 2017 14:49 GMT
#183
On May 20 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote:
So is TY knocked out of SSL?


Nop 2-1 atm
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
May 20 2017 14:50 GMT
#184
On May 20 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote:
So is TY knocked out of SSL?

No, not at all, what
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9222 Posts
May 20 2017 14:50 GMT
#185
Byun showing how it's done.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 20 2017 14:50 GMT
#186
That series was awful.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
May 20 2017 14:51 GMT
#187
On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote:
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.

True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 20 2017 14:52 GMT
#188
TyT is dead baby
Scouting would be a useful skill toi have
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
May 20 2017 14:53 GMT
#189
On May 20 2017 23:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:48 Penev wrote:
But ByuN always plays like that Valdes

Exactly. ByuN never plays different from this. TY is a total moron for not playing safe. He's the better player if they go straight-up.

Like when he played vs herO when he knows how herO plays yet still plays like he doesn't lol, brain-farts too often
Faker is the GOAT!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 20 2017 14:54 GMT
#190
On May 20 2017 23:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote:
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.

True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP.


You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway.
His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro.

w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again.
Zest fanboy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 14:58:37
May 20 2017 14:57 GMT
#191
On May 20 2017 23:54 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:51 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote:
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.

True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP.


You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway.
His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro.

w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again.

The build is totally fine for macro games and it can hold proxy reapers too. But you gotta scout and try to be somewhat safe.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 20 2017 15:01 GMT
#192
On May 20 2017 23:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:54 imre wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:51 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote:
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.

True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP.


You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway.
His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro.

w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again.

The build is totally fine for macro games and it can hold proxy reapers too. But you gotta scout and try to be somewhat safe.


I disagree, it's not the safest build out there and there aren't many outcomes that gives you a lead after the early game. Like reaper reaper cyclone into whatever from the starport is almost always a better build than this one.
+ it's quite tight on minerals so scouting cuts a bit too much income.

I like it as a random ladder player, but for top tier TvT I really think it's a bad build except on a few maps (eg Proxima Station)
Zest fanboy.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
May 20 2017 15:06 GMT
#193
On May 21 2017 00:01 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:57 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:54 imre wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:51 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote:
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.

True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP.


You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway.
His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro.

w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again.

The build is totally fine for macro games and it can hold proxy reapers too. But you gotta scout and try to be somewhat safe.


I disagree, it's not the safest build out there and there aren't many outcomes that gives you a lead after the early game. Like reaper reaper cyclone into whatever from the starport is almost always a better build than this one.
+ it's quite tight on minerals so scouting cuts a bit too much income.

I like it as a random ladder player, but for top tier TvT I really think it's a bad build except on a few maps (eg Proxima Station)

it doesn't give you a lead but if you scout and react accordingly it should let you at least play the game from an even position.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 15:07:46
May 20 2017 15:07 GMT
#194
On May 21 2017 00:01 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:57 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:54 imre wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:51 Elentos wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:48 imre wrote:
TY build order/scouting process was so abysmal that he doesn't deserve to win this series.
Super disappointing.

True. But it's TY. The only match-up he actually scouts in is TvP.


You don't need to scout if you go for the reaper/cyclone build. Which is like the best build vs someone aggro in TvT anyway.
His reaper expand build isn't very good to begin with and then it's straight up terrible against someone aggro.

w/e it's standard TY to disappoint again and again.

The build is totally fine for macro games and it can hold proxy reapers too. But you gotta scout and try to be somewhat safe.


I disagree, it's not the safest build out there and there aren't many outcomes that gives you a lead after the early game. Like reaper reaper cyclone into whatever from the starport is almost always a better build than this one.
+ it's quite tight on minerals so scouting cuts a bit too much income.

I like it as a random ladder player, but for top tier TvT I really think it's a bad build except on a few maps (eg Proxima Station)

At top level TvT most people go reaper-reaper-hellion instead of cyclone, in which case the build is absolutely fine, you may not take a lead but you won't fall far behind if your defense is good. On Whirlwind TY would have been fine if he didn't lose a full health hellion to 2 red HP reapers.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
May 20 2017 15:08 GMT
#195
Sick stasis hahaha
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
May 20 2017 15:08 GMT
#196
loool
I Protoss winner, could it be?
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
May 20 2017 15:08 GMT
#197
Whouahh so cool !
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
May 20 2017 15:08 GMT
#198
I mean this is kinda just as bad as the last series but at the same time I'm more okay with this.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
May 20 2017 15:08 GMT
#199
I'm glad this is happening to a protoss.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
May 20 2017 15:09 GMT
#200
COOL GAMES TODAY
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