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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 03:22:27
April 30 2017 03:22 GMT
#1081
On April 30 2017 12:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, Kelazhur is still alive?

I mean technically yes but it would take a lot of botches for nerchio to lose from here
he has all the economy and tech he wants
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 30 2017 03:22 GMT
#1082
On April 30 2017 12:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.


Byul has some amazing LBM games
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1083
On April 30 2017 12:19 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:04 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 11:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 30 2017 11:57 breaker1328 wrote:
On April 30 2017 11:51 Fango wrote:
Boring yet strategic PvP > action-packed yet frustrating PvP


I would prefer to play the former and watch the latter.


There's also the question of whether building colossi arcs and a-moving is strategic.


HoTS PvP was almost all strategy and position based, with good control and build order luck giving advantages to either side.

Hell of a lot better than "both players press the same button and no one knows whose gonna win" barely matters how good a player is strategically.a


Getting caught with a bad arc would cause players to lose games outright with not even the chance of recovery that disruptors afford.


It was a tense positional game. very reliant on counter attacks and being in a better place than your opponent, having zealots and archons in the right place, maxing collosus dmg etc. the better player almost always won, you cant say that with disruptors.


I disagree with everything you're saying. There's only so much you can do in the 5 seconds before the armies evaporate.


You need to watch more games from 2014. Seeing guys like Zest destroy every other protoss just by outsmarting/positioning them was so sick. Plus a lot of stuff went on in the early/midgame before the collosus deathballs were out, no one remembers all the different cheeses/immortal pushes/stalkers/DTs etc

It really came down to the fact that the better protoss normally won, instead of all of them going 50% (at which point I have no interest in watching)



Meh. I watched basically every tournament in 2014, and PvPs were plentiful especially in the first half. Not really a fan.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
April 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1084
On April 30 2017 12:22 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).

Maru vs Nerchio in KC was amazing

in WESG not so much.
Writermaru pls
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
April 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1085
On April 30 2017 12:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, Kelazhur is still alive?

Nerchio is a merciful god
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1086
On April 30 2017 12:22 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).

When was that? Calling Maru overrated after he 4-2'd Rain would be pretty reasonable, if you ask me.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 03:23 GMT
#1087
Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.

Soulkey was pretty sick with it back in the day.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1088
On April 30 2017 12:22 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).


He wasn't wrong. At times Maru would have to be Jesus to not be overrated.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1089
Nerchio is done being merciful it seems
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1090
On April 30 2017 12:22 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.


Byul has some amazing LBM games

It just so happens that i did not get to watch SC2 when ByuL was at his peak.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1091
I know he was desperate but that attack went about as poorly as possible for Kelazhur lol
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1092
On April 30 2017 12:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:22 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).


He wasn't wrong. At times Maru would have to be Jesus to not be overrated.

How's Maru doing nowadays? Haven't watched korean starcraft in like 9 months
Writermaru pls
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1093
On April 30 2017 12:23 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:22 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).

Maru vs Nerchio in KC was amazing

in WESG not so much.


Was it haha?

from what I remember g1 was Maru dominating then Nerchio giving up, g2 was Maru throwing all his SCVs for no reason, g3 was Maru just killing him and dropping mules
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 30 2017 03:24 GMT
#1094
On April 30 2017 12:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:22 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.


Byul has some amazing LBM games

It just so happens that i did not get to watch SC2 when ByuL was at his peak.

unfortunately ByuL's super fan who predicted it back in WoL got banned about 8 times before ByuL reached his true peak. RIP ZeroSC2 and all his iterations that hated opterown
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 30 2017 03:25 GMT
#1095
On April 30 2017 12:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:22 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.


Byul has some amazing LBM games

It just so happens that i did not get to watch SC2 when ByuL was at his peak.


Some of his games this year are still pretty dang good
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 30 2017 03:25 GMT
#1096
1-0 for Nerchio, probably a swift 3-0 in his favour.
kiss kiss fall in love
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2017 03:25 GMT
#1097
On April 30 2017 12:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:22 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.


Byul has some amazing LBM games

It just so happens that i did not get to watch SC2 when ByuL was at his peak.


Right now ByuL's in his best form since he's gotten all those silvers back in 2015.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:25 GMT
#1098
On April 30 2017 12:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.

Soulkey was pretty sick with it back in the day.

You are well aware of what i am using as benchmark for MLB.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 30 2017 03:25 GMT
#1099
On April 30 2017 12:24 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:22 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).


He wasn't wrong. At times Maru would have to be Jesus to not be overrated.

How's Maru doing nowadays? Haven't watched korean starcraft in like 9 months

very good but not dominant or anything. qualified for SSL premier and advanced 1st in his Code S group
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 30 2017 03:25 GMT
#1100
On April 30 2017 12:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:22 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.


Byul has some amazing LBM games

It just so happens that i did not get to watch SC2 when ByuL was at his peak.


Right now ByuL's in his best form since he's gotten all those silvers back in 2015.

He's been way too busy in DotA.
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