• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:56
CEST 14:56
KST 21:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 AquaTrail-(I've Tested) My 90 Day Honest Experienc https://www.facebook.com/Power.Pro.Genius.USD/ Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7051 users

[WCS] DreamHack Austin 2017 - Page 54

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 112 Next
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10121 Posts
April 30 2017 03:17 GMT
#1061
Nerchio is like 5 min ahead of Kelagod
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 30 2017 03:17 GMT
#1062
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though

He only has like... 1600 posts?
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:18 GMT
#1063
Looking at the game so far i wonder what is Snute's form these days.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2017 03:18 GMT
#1064
On April 30 2017 12:17 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though

He only has like... 1600 posts?


Some of those posts contain more than one sentence.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:18 GMT
#1065
On April 30 2017 12:17 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though

He only has like... 1600 posts?

Well, he probably has twitter and other ways of saying something stupid.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 03:18 GMT
#1066
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 30 2017 03:19 GMT
#1067
On April 30 2017 12:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:17 intotheheart wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though

He only has like... 1600 posts?


Some of those posts contain more than one sentence.

Individual posts containing more than one sentence are also pretty heretical; I definitely believe it's a good approximation regardless.
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:19 GMT
#1068
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
April 30 2017 03:19 GMT
#1069
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

He did it sometimes in ZvZ last year and was pretty good at it, but the roach-ravager style of play fits him way better. I don't hate it; I think it fits his personality really well, and seeing him take perfect fights is super fun.
Writermaru pls
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 30 2017 03:19 GMT
#1070
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 03:19 GMT
#1071
On April 30 2017 12:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:12 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:04 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 11:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 30 2017 11:57 breaker1328 wrote:
On April 30 2017 11:51 Fango wrote:
Boring yet strategic PvP > action-packed yet frustrating PvP


I would prefer to play the former and watch the latter.


There's also the question of whether building colossi arcs and a-moving is strategic.


HoTS PvP was almost all strategy and position based, with good control and build order luck giving advantages to either side.

Hell of a lot better than "both players press the same button and no one knows whose gonna win" barely matters how good a player is strategically.a


Getting caught with a bad arc would cause players to lose games outright with not even the chance of recovery that disruptors afford.


It was a tense positional game. very reliant on counter attacks and being in a better place than your opponent, having zealots and archons in the right place, maxing collosus dmg etc. the better player almost always won, you cant say that with disruptors.


I disagree with everything you're saying. There's only so much you can do in the 5 seconds before the armies evaporate.


You need to watch more games from 2014. Seeing guys like Zest destroy every other protoss just by outsmarting/positioning them was so sick. Plus a lot of stuff went on in the early/midgame before the collosus deathballs were out, no one remembers all the different cheeses/immortal pushes/stalkers/DTs etc

It really came down to the fact that the better protoss normally won, instead of all of them going 50% (at which point I have no interest in watching)

Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 30 2017 03:19 GMT
#1072
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.

Also means you only need one composition for all three matchups!
kiss kiss fall in love
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
April 30 2017 03:20 GMT
#1073
I have to say Kelazhur played that super well
Faker is the GOAT!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2017 03:20 GMT
#1074
On April 30 2017 12:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Looking at the game so far i wonder what is Snute's form these days.


Snute's form was excellent early to mid 2016 and declined approaching Blizzcon. It hasn't recovered yet, but I think it's been on the upswing recently.
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada300 Posts
April 30 2017 03:20 GMT
#1075
Kelazhur is doing as well against Nerchio as I did when I played Rotti that time.

Which is to say... not good.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:20 GMT
#1076
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

Of course it is, but i feel only true mechanical gods like peak form DRG/HeWhoWon'tBeNamed/soO ever do it justice.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 30 2017 03:20 GMT
#1077
On April 30 2017 12:19 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:18 pvsnp wrote:
While nerchio is really good at ZvT, i do find TRUE's style to be way more fun to watch

Does Nerchio ever go LBM? Every time I see him play its always Roach-Ravager.

Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.


He shouldn't, i just think its more fun to watch

I agree but nerchio is a stone cold killer so he goes with what is most efficient for him. pretty much roach ravager infestor into ultra the whole time in LotV afaik
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2017 03:21 GMT
#1078
Wait, Kelazhur is still alive?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 03:21 GMT
#1079
Why would you go LBM if roach-ravager does the job.

Well, LBM does have the higher skill ceiling.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 03:22 GMT
#1080
On April 30 2017 12:16 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 12:14 Fango wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:13 Soularion wrote:
On April 30 2017 12:12 pvsnp wrote:
Come again?

Even though i think Serral is definitely way better than what he showed in series against Major, that stops at about level of top 3 foreign zerg.

One of the casters said so. Think it was iNcontrol?

iNcontroL said something to the effect of "some people were saying he was a top two zerg, maybe even including Korea."

I just used it to poke fun at the Serral hype, I'm sure he doesn't believe that


Nerchio said he was best zerg in the world. He also said he'd beat Dark at IEM - that went well

if I got a dollar everytime Nerchio said something stupid, I'd be a millionaire.

Still love the guy though


imo the worst thing he did was call Maru overrated. Once Maru heard about that he destroyed him when they met (KC and WESG).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 112 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:00
SEL S3 Ladder Invitational
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IntoTheiNu 982
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #147
CranKy Ducklings91
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 870
Rex 152
MindelVK 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26520
Calm 5827
Bisu 2432
Hyuk 919
Shuttle 841
Mini 486
BeSt 450
Horang2 439
Jaedong 377
Stork 188
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 158
Last 151
ggaemo 136
Soma 123
soO 43
Larva 32
ToSsGirL 23
Sexy 20
sSak 20
sorry 18
GoRush 13
IntoTheRainbow 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Gorgc8340
Dendi754
XaKoH 510
XcaliburYe136
League of Legends
JimRising 422
Counter-Strike
zeus563
Other Games
gofns11929
FrodaN3271
singsing2149
DeMusliM639
Lowko422
ToD282
Pyrionflax279
KnowMe103
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick27757
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• Response 0
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
3h 4m
Dragon vs Ret
Patches Events
3h 4m
RSL Revival
20h 4m
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 4m
IPSL
1d 3h
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.