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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 04 2017 14:49 GMT
#801
On March 04 2017 23:47 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:45 pvsnp wrote:
If Dark can get roflstomped by inno it's not worth nerchio's time to even play him

Dark put up one hell of a fight, and was dead even for Inno most of the first game. Second he had a brief advantage but blew it. He didn't get roflstomped by Inno, he's the only Zerg who doesn't.


Yeah, I'm guessing he just looked at the 2-0 score if he thought that was a roflstomp


I saw the games when they happened and Dark put up a good fight but it was just never enough. If they played a bo7 instead of bo3 it would have been a 4-1 at best. At least at that point
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 04 2017 14:49 GMT
#802
On March 04 2017 23:44 Jacenoob wrote:
I love the tournament and the casters but really... PvZ is autowin and TvP is autowin. What a joke.


Nah Stats beat Inno like a week ago.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 04 2017 14:49 GMT
#803
On March 04 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2017 23:45 Nakajin wrote:
Guys I am starting to think all the kespa environment thing was just bullshit and the team were actually detrimental to the Koreans. Because right now they are kicking ass so hard.

But... what's then the reason why koreans are better than foreigners at sc2?

Polt didn't have KeSPA. He still doesn't, he's retired and he's still playing really well on his streams. If he tried he can probably still beat most foreigners.

avilo also wins a lot on his stream!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 04 2017 14:49 GMT
#804
On March 04 2017 23:48 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:45 Nakajin wrote:
Guys I am starting to think all the kespa environment thing was just bullshit and the team were actually detrimental to the Koreans. Because right now they are kicking ass so hard.

But... what's then the reason why koreans are better than foreigners at sc2?

They save time by having not to eat.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 04 2017 14:49 GMT
#805
the gap is closing... LOL

The gap is the Grand Canyon at this point.
Denominator of the Universe
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
March 04 2017 14:50 GMT
#806
guys, usually things aren't affected by just one factor
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 04 2017 14:50 GMT
#807
On March 04 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2017 23:45 Nakajin wrote:
Guys I am starting to think all the kespa environment thing was just bullshit and the team were actually detrimental to the Koreans. Because right now they are kicking ass so hard.

But... what's then the reason why koreans are better than foreigners at sc2?

Polt didn't have KeSPA. He still doesn't, he's retired and he's still playing really well on his streams. If he tried he can probably still beat most foreigners.


Polt was no where near as good as the top Kespa players though, not for a last few years anyway
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 04 2017 14:50 GMT
#808
On March 04 2017 23:44 Jacenoob wrote:
I love the tournament and the casters but really... PvZ is autowin and TvP is autowin. What a joke.

xd
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 04 2017 14:50 GMT
#809
To be fair I've been mainly absent the last couple years, but besides that one neeb Kespa cup run has anyone ever thought the best foreigners were on the level of the absolute top Koreans? Pretty sure that's never been arguable, ever. Even during neebs Kespa cup victory.

Pretty sure its more like are the top foreigners capable of consistently beating code s players in general.

Nerchio getting roflstomped in his worst matchup by the best protoss doesn't really change that, and we've seen good performances from uthermal, Showtime, and nerchio earlier.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 04 2017 14:50 GMT
#810
On March 04 2017 23:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:49 geokilla wrote:
On March 04 2017 23:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2017 23:45 Nakajin wrote:
Guys I am starting to think all the kespa environment thing was just bullshit and the team were actually detrimental to the Koreans. Because right now they are kicking ass so hard.

But... what's then the reason why koreans are better than foreigners at sc2?

Polt didn't have KeSPA. He still doesn't, he's retired and he's still playing really well on his streams. If he tried he can probably still beat most foreigners.

avilo also wins a lot on his stream!


I win about half of my games on ladder. Yeah, I am that good
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 04 2017 14:51 GMT
#811
Polt was no where near as good as the top Kespa players though, not for a last few years anyway

Through 2015 he was pretty damn close to them. Not GSL champion level maybe but definitely like Ro8.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 04 2017 14:52 GMT
#812
On March 04 2017 23:50 Penev wrote:
guys, usually things aren't affected by just one factor

Not only that. Just because there are no teamhouses anymore doesn't mean that the benefit from learning the game in one is completely gone now. That logic makes zero sense.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
March 04 2017 14:52 GMT
#813
On March 04 2017 23:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:50 Penev wrote:
guys, usually things aren't affected by just one factor

Not only that. Just because there are no teamhouses anymore doesn't mean that the benefit from learning the game in one is completely gone now. That logic makes zero sense.

indeed
I Protoss winner, could it be?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 04 2017 14:53 GMT
#814
On March 04 2017 23:51 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Polt was no where near as good as the top Kespa players though, not for a last few years anyway

Through 2015 he was pretty damn close to them. Not GSL champion level maybe but definitely like Ro8.


Heard a story that Rain swore Polt was a God after barely beating him at Blizzcon.
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 04 2017 14:53 GMT
#815
I wonder if they also have input lag and max 60 fps
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
March 04 2017 14:53 GMT
#816
On March 04 2017 23:50 Pandain wrote:
To be fair I've been mainly absent the last couple years, but besides that one neeb Kespa cup run has anyone ever thought the best foreigners were on the level of the absolute top Koreans? Pretty sure that's never been arguable, ever. Even during neebs Kespa cup victory.

Pretty sure its more like are the top foreigners capable of consistently beating code s players in general.

Nerchio getting roflstomped in his worst matchup by the best protoss doesn't really change that, and we've seen good performances from uthermal, Showtime, and nerchio earlier.

Foreigners are definitely better than in 2014-2015 whether it's because they got better or because koreans got worse is arguable.
But still, the very top players (Inno, Dark, Stats, Byun etc. are in a class of their own.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 04 2017 14:53 GMT
#817
On March 04 2017 23:53 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 23:51 pvsnp wrote:
Polt was no where near as good as the top Kespa players though, not for a last few years anyway

Through 2015 he was pretty damn close to them. Not GSL champion level maybe but definitely like Ro8.


Heard a story that Rain swore Polt was a God after barely beating him at Blizzcon.

It's just because Terran was litterally BL/infestor
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 04 2017 14:53 GMT
#818
On March 04 2017 23:51 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Polt was no where near as good as the top Kespa players though, not for a last few years anyway

Through 2015 he was pretty damn close to them. Not GSL champion level maybe but definitely like Ro8.


You think? He would just about win against foreigners/koreigners. just about. If he was in GSL I can't see him getting past ro16
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 04 2017 14:53 GMT
#819
On March 04 2017 23:51 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Polt was no where near as good as the top Kespa players though, not for a last few years anyway

Through 2015 he was pretty damn close to them. Not GSL champion level maybe but definitely like Ro8.

Nah. 2015 Polt was pretty weak all year (his WCS win was somewhat out of nowhere) and then at Blizzcon he was suddenly on the same level as Rain.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 04 2017 14:54 GMT
#820
On March 04 2017 23:53 Alchemik wrote:
I wonder if they also have input lag and max 60 fps

This game runs at more than 60fps? :p
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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