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Challenge Wars - Indistinguishable

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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 20:51:04
December 09 2016 04:41 GMT
#1
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The eSports community has shaped Starcraft 2 since before it launched back in 2010. It's cultivated a community highly focused around the competition, being the best and fair competition. Over the years we've learned what the best formats are to determine the best Starcraft 2 player in a reasonable fashion.

This is another Starcraft 2 tournament but before we begin I want to make one thing clear:

This is not a fair competition

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Challenge Wars is a new tournament series about having fun. Both the players and the viewers are encouraged to abandon the shackles of reason as we dive into formats that any sane person would know are a little off. At the end of the day, this tournament exists for those who are tired of only seeing double elimination brackets, group stage play and tournaments that blend together because they all look like the same thing.

Some of the tournaments you'll see in Challenge Wars will be more reasonable but with an interesting twist you've never seen before. Some of them will be wonky and force players and viewers to really think about what's going to happen. Some of them will make you question if you can even classify this as a tournament because of how ridiculous the ideas are, but my sincerest hope is that all of them will make you gasp, laugh, cheer, jeer and ultimately remember to have fun.

We're kicked off Challenge Wars with GGLetsRE. For the second Challenge Wars event, we're getting a bit more crazy...

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Indistinguishable is an 8-man single-elimination tournament with some top European players. The format for the overall tournament is pretty standard, but this event is not about being normal..

Players will play on a custom mod where every one of their units and buildings will look exactly the same. That's it. Just a regular old match with professional games in which every unit and building looks completely identical and indistinguishable.

For example, let's say the player decides they've been haunted enough by being supply blocked and being forced to "construct additional pylons". The player can choose to make all of their units look like a pylon. Every probe. Every zealot. Every carrier. Every robotics facility. And yes, every pylon. Each player will be able to choose their unit to create their indistinguishable army.



The event will take place on Thursday, Feb 11 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) over on:

http://www.twitch.tv/feardragon64


The Prize pool will be $500 because this a very serious tournament with a very serious prize pool.

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The player lineup will be a variety of top European talent.


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Casting will be done by Ravi "feardragon" Pareek and a Kwame Temp0 Mensah.

Credit to @techcore for the photo

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Wait so...any unit...or building?
Well almost any unit. We've placed a restriction so players can only make their units look like a unit of their race or neutral units for clarity sake. This will result in some...odd looking behavior but the game should still technically function as per usual....technically...

How are you doing this?
The amazing @nice__username is making a mod that will do this. In reality, there's a chance we will come across some very big game breaking bugs as there are a lot of possibilities for something to break with this. But in the spirit of embracing the craziness, we're just going to roll with it and see where things take us.

Is the tournament called Challenge Wars or Indistinguishable?
This tournament is called Indistinguishable, but the tournament series is called Challenge Wars. The term series implying this is the first of many unique, one-off format events to come. As of right now there's no intention to repeat any of the tournament ideas for now.

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Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
[MD]Frostbite
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada292 Posts
December 09 2016 04:44 GMT
#2
haha thats an interesting concept! looking forward to it
White-Ra, the godfather Protoss
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 09 2016 04:47 GMT
#3
I assume DT is not a valid choice .
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
December 09 2016 04:57 GMT
#4
On December 09 2016 13:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I assume DT is not a valid choice .

Dt's can be not cloaked!
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 09 2016 05:52 GMT
#5
You're insane Ravi
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
December 09 2016 06:31 GMT
#6
We better see a massive floating dt cloaking all the mini dts.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 06:45:20
December 09 2016 06:45 GMT
#7
A video is worth a thousand words per frame.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1214 Posts
December 09 2016 07:53 GMT
#8
This looks amazingly ridiculous
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 16:31:53
December 10 2016 16:25 GMT
#9
Tournament starts in a little under 24 hours! The player announcements are all going to come out at once!

The players are....
Optimus(T)
Elazer(Z)
Zanster(Z)
FeaR(P)
MaNa(P)
Harstem(P)
Nerchio(Z)
SouL(T)

Bracket found here. I'll be updating the OP pretty soon.
http://challonge.com/challengewarsIndistinguishable
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
December 11 2016 15:49 GMT
#10
I have some bad news. Unfortunately there were some problems that arose with the extention mod and we currently don't have a playable version of the mod. The mod is actually fairly complicated and it's not something we can fix very easily.

Because of this, I'm going to have to postpone the event. I apologize to anyone who was looking forward to do this and hope you don't mind channeling your inner patience and waiting a little bit longer for the mod to have the proper finishing touches.

I really apologize for being unprepared for this event and not having everything in order a few days before the event. I hope everyone will tune in for the event when it does finally happen.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
December 11 2016 16:01 GMT
#11
next time test it earlier...
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 11 2016 16:04 GMT
#12
Too bad, was looking forward to this.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
February 08 2017 17:00 GMT
#13
Ok guys we are BACK! I apologize for all the delays but the mod is finally ready to be played and the players are all lined up! Here's the update.

New date and time: February 11th at 8am PST/5pm CET!
Slightly alterted player lineup: Some players weren't available so we had to find some new ones!

Same idea. Same stream.

I hope you guys there.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
February 11 2017 07:35 GMT
#14
Event begins in about 8.5 hours!
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 11 2017 16:34 GMT
#15
Tune in everyone!
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
February 11 2017 17:13 GMT
#16
Tuned in randomly without knowing what is going on. I was confused. Still am.
:D
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 11 2017 17:20 GMT
#17
This is good.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
February 11 2017 17:22 GMT
#18
Those flying infestation pits look like guardians
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
February 11 2017 17:31 GMT
#19
Ravagers OP, they still look normal when they morph, pls DK, nerf.

This is hilarious
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Aiingel
Profile Joined May 2016
243 Posts
February 11 2017 17:55 GMT
#20
These gold minerals throwing themselves at everything *wipes eyes*
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