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BasetradeTV will cover group C,D and playoffs. I'm still trying to find another English cast for group A and B.
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I've never heard of TBA, but a random player is always exciting
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On November 13 2016 17:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've never heard of TBA, but a random player is always exciting
A Korean random player too.
edit: Also what's with that map pool? Ulrena? Ruins of Seras? Sky Shield?! Lerilak?!?
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On November 13 2016 17:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2016 17:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've never heard of TBA, but a random player is always exciting A Korean random player too. edit: Also what's with that map pool? Ulrena? Ruins of Seras? Sky Shield?! Lerilak?!?
The map pool is the ladder map pool.
The Korean player will be announced on Tuesday.
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On November 13 2016 17:38 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2016 17:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 13 2016 17:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've never heard of TBA, but a random player is always exciting A Korean random player too. edit: Also what's with that map pool? Ulrena? Ruins of Seras? Sky Shield?! Lerilak?!? The map pool is the ladder map pool. The Korean player will be announced on Tuesday.
Oh. Liquipedia lied to me. Is the Korean player actually random, or is the random there just to hide their identity?
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On November 13 2016 17:20 Aeromi wrote:
BasetradeTV will cover group C,D and playoffs. I'm still trying to find another English cast for group A and B.
Starcraft is a conversation enough. Plus when you don't understand a language, the casters sound 500% more excited.
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On November 13 2016 17:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2016 17:38 Aeromi wrote:On November 13 2016 17:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 13 2016 17:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've never heard of TBA, but a random player is always exciting A Korean random player too. edit: Also what's with that map pool? Ulrena? Ruins of Seras? Sky Shield?! Lerilak?!? The map pool is the ladder map pool. The Korean player will be announced on Tuesday. Oh. Liquipedia lied to me. Is the Korean player actually random, or is the random there just to hide their identity?
Just to hide their identity.
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The Korean player is  ByuN.
He will be playing on November 22.
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On November 15 2016 03:59 Aeromi wrote:The Korean player is ByuN. He will be playing on November 22.
Nice. In hindsight it was pretty obvious. I can't think of any other top Korean terrans that would play in a tournament like this. GuMiho would have been possible too.
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On November 15 2016 04:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2016 03:59 Aeromi wrote:The Korean player is ByuN. He will be playing on November 22. Nice. In hindsight it was pretty obvious. I can't think of any other top Korean terrans that would play in a tournament like this. GuMiho would have been possible too.
We contacted several former KeSPA Terrans but they did not answer.
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United States97276 Posts
wow I am HYPED for this. Underdogs needs more hype
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I there an english stream?
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On November 16 2016 03:12 bulya wrote:
I there an english stream?
Not for today and tomorrow.
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Nerchio so happy about the spray :D
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Just tuned in. Hadn't realized it was going to be on the new patch. Those roaches from Nerchio are pretty sexy.
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Wow, it's the new patch, so hype, thanks!!!!
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On November 16 2016 03:58 Musicus wrote:
Wow, it's the new patch, so hype, thanks!!!!
Yeah no way we play on a boring patch
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We should get better at matchfixing. The plan is clearly not working here.
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On November 16 2016 03:59 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2016 03:58 Musicus wrote:
Wow, it's the new patch, so hype, thanks!!!! Yeah no way we play on a boring patch
I've seriously been searching for a stream on the new patch for days and didn't find anything, and suddenly you give me a whole tournament with Nerchio <3.
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On November 16 2016 07:08 Ej_ wrote:
How was the ZvT?
Awful
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Pretty much, reaper BS on galactic, 2 medivac 16 marine BS on Frost cross which got defended, liberator BS on KSS.
Can't wait for some new maps and I really hope the reaper gets adressed in the future.
Obivously uThermal still played really well.
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Does this start 19:00 CET or 18:00 CET? The topic says 19:00 CEST which is 18:00 CET so that's why I'm a bit confused. 
Edit: TL calendar has it 19:00 CET so I'm going to rely on that.
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On November 16 2016 23:20 Azhrak wrote:Does this start 19:00 CET or 18:00 CET? The topic says 19:00 CEST which is 18:00 CET so that's why I'm a bit confused. Edit: TL calendar has it 19:00 CET so I'm going to rely on that.
Definitely 7pm CET
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No foreigner stream today since Emil has to go to Krefeld and NarutO has stuff to do with HSC.
Map picks should be up on Liquipedia in a few minutes.
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On November 17 2016 04:30 Ej_ wrote:
TLO so creative
He's special amirighte?
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for real tho what heppened just now, I tabbed out when the map was split with TLO sieging and now they're back to studio?
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Due to an Internet maintenance at MajOr house he has no Internet connection and he has to forfeit.
Welmu qualifies for the RO8.
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On November 17 2016 04:51 Ej_ wrote:
for real tho what heppened just now, I tabbed out when the map was split with TLO sieging and now they're back to studio?
Viper happened.
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Group C has been rescheduled to November 25 at 19.00 because ByuN can not play tonight because of the e-sports awards ceremony taking place.
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On November 22 2016 21:32 Aeromi wrote:
Group C has been rescheduled to November 25 at 19.00 because ByuN can not play tonight because of the e-sports awards ceremony taking place.
Did he win the award? Or so far "just" nominated?
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Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one.
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On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one.
i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season?
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On November 24 2016 03:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one. i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season?
The process of reaching an agreement as to what constitutes a "good" map pool would probably result in several feuds between the organisers. Besides the players wouldn't have practice on that alternate map pool.
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On November 24 2016 03:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one. i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season?
Plot twist we tried that a few months ago and players complained because it was not the standard map pool.
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On November 24 2016 03:17 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 03:03 Ej_ wrote:On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one. i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season? Plot twist we tried that a few months ago and players complained because it was not the standard map pool.
=.=
Gotta get used to seeing Daybreak for a few months again...
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chargelot/archon vs mech, nice
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On November 24 2016 03:17 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 03:03 Ej_ wrote:On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one. i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season? Plot twist we tried that a few months ago and players complained because it was not the standard map pool.
Yeah, that's always the reaction. Most players get the bulk of their practice through ladder, so of course they don't want a different map pool. Even in the GSL where players play a lot more customs, the non-ladder maps are picked less.
One way Blizzard could improve (though not solve) the situation would be to increase the number of maps on ladder to something like 11, so that tournaments could pick a subset of those maps for their map pool. This also allows tournaments to avoid significantly imbalanced maps. Besides with the increased prevalence of Bo5s in LotV, a map pool size increase would be welcome.
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yep mech is eternally bad vs Protoss
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Don't really see the point in Ultras vs mech.
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good to know that progamers don't know how to beat mass carrier either
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On November 24 2016 05:36 Ej_ wrote:
good to know that progamers don't know how to beat mass carrier either
When sOs is the carrier player it usually seems to work out for the zerg.
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On November 24 2016 03:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 03:17 Aeromi wrote:On November 24 2016 03:03 Ej_ wrote:On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one. i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season? Plot twist we tried that a few months ago and players complained because it was not the standard map pool. Yeah, that's always the reaction. Most players get the bulk of their practice through ladder, so of course they don't want a different map pool. Even in the GSL where players play a lot more customs, the non-ladder maps are picked less. One way Blizzard could improve (though not solve) the situation would be to increase the number of maps on ladder to something like 11, so that tournaments could pick a subset of those maps for their map pool. This also allows tournaments to avoid significantly imbalanced maps. Besides with the increased prevalence of Bo5s in LotV, a map pool size increase would be welcome.
Adding more maps to ladder might impact matchmaking?
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France12887 Posts
Still Z/P winner match? fuk it's getting boring already, isn't the patch supposed to balance things out?
gogo mlord & ptitdrogo
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On November 24 2016 05:42 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 03:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 24 2016 03:17 Aeromi wrote:On November 24 2016 03:03 Ej_ wrote:On November 24 2016 02:12 Aeromi wrote:
Group C and D are played on the old map pool, RO8 will be played on the new one. i assume there's no motion from any tournaments organizers to play on a good map pool during the off season? Plot twist we tried that a few months ago and players complained because it was not the standard map pool. Yeah, that's always the reaction. Most players get the bulk of their practice through ladder, so of course they don't want a different map pool. Even in the GSL where players play a lot more customs, the non-ladder maps are picked less. One way Blizzard could improve (though not solve) the situation would be to increase the number of maps on ladder to something like 11, so that tournaments could pick a subset of those maps for their map pool. This also allows tournaments to avoid significantly imbalanced maps. Besides with the increased prevalence of Bo5s in LotV, a map pool size increase would be welcome. Adding more maps to ladder might impact matchmaking?
Maps don't affect matchmaking at all. Since the number of vetoes is less than half the map pool every player has at least a map that overlaps with every other player. So you just get matched against the opponent and then it chooses a map both players have.
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On November 24 2016 05:44 Poopi wrote:
Still Z/P winner match? fuk it's getting boring already, isn't the patch supposed to balance things out?
gogo mlord & ptitdrogo
Beasty tried to mech in TvP and it still doesn't work.
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Glorious mech vs mech action
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oh hey you can actually win with mech vs P if you are ahead enough
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On November 24 2016 05:47 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2016 05:44 Poopi wrote:
Still Z/P winner match? fuk it's getting boring already, isn't the patch supposed to balance things out?
gogo mlord & ptitdrogo Beasty tried to mech in TvP and it still doesn't work.
Well to be fair he did get completely outsurrounded by Zealots. And when playing mech its 100% neccesary that you have a critical mass of hellbats (+ widow mines?) so you don't die to Zealots because that gets snowballed very fast.
It's better to have slightly too few tanks than slightly too few antizealot-units.
So that might be a composition-adjustment issue that players needs to figure out. It will definitely be exciting to follow the scene and I am sure blizzard will make balance adjustments if mech is still too weak.
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SortOf nice Viper play. losing all for nothing is the new meta
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Casters are going to draw the bracket once this group is over. I'll update this thread and Liquipedia once the draw is over.
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France12887 Posts
Crap I missed ByuN xD. How did Kelazhur take a game? gratz to him
(pls don't say it's because of mech)
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On November 26 2016 06:44 Poopi wrote:
Crap I missed ByuN xD. How did Kelazhur take a game? gratz to him
(pls don't say it's because of mech)
Reapers obviously.
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Kelazhur has some Internet issues, SortOf and Kelazhur are going to play the rest of the BO3 tomorrow.
Bracket is going to be out in a minut.
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Of COURSE Elazer vs Nerchio lmao
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Italy3421 Posts
...they could have swapped match 2 and 3 to avoid possible groups rematch early in the semifinals but it looks interesting...
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On November 26 2016 07:29 CynicalDeath wrote:
...they could have swapped match 2 and 3 to avoid possible groups rematch early in the semifinals but it looks interesting...
The only rule for the bracket is that both players from the same group can not play themselves during the RO8.
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sick games today, too bad we have Elazer vs Nerchio again though
with this and soO streaming, I guess I can forget playing myself again...
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Is there a stream in English?
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bnet is down it seems
Edit: at least the login servers
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Show is postponed, tomorrow 6 PM CET because players, admins and casters can not login.
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ok
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Thanks for the update Aeromi !
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On December 01 2016 02:15 Aeromi wrote:
And we are live.
dont lie
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ByuN takes bases stupidly slowly vs mech.
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France12887 Posts
New TvT looks so slow/bad without tankivacs :x.
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United States97276 Posts
botched so hard by byun
mlord played pretty well. Thought he was going to actually take it in game 5
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Not a bad results to go 2:3 against Byun.
Also I'm pretty disappointed as Elazer has to play Nerchio :<
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Why is there no English stream?
Or is there one?
Uthermal vs Kelzhur is a great match, as well as Byun vs Nerchio
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On December 09 2016 04:03 Musicus wrote:
ByuN vs Nerchio hype!
im worried it will be a stomp
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On December 09 2016 04:08 Ej_ wrote:im worried it will be a stomp
nerchio 3-0 or 3-1?
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On December 09 2016 04:12 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2016 04:08 Ej_ wrote:On December 09 2016 04:03 Musicus wrote:
ByuN vs Nerchio hype! im worried it will be a stomp nerchio 3-0 or 3-1?
tanks 3-0 banelings
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ByuN not macroing and still winning 
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oh so this is from replays
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sick burrow move
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why doesn't ByuN bring a single SCV there to make a turret?
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United States97276 Posts
french stream has the best sound effects
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Btw, do tanks get +7 with attack upgrades vs armored? So do they deal 91 damage vs armored at plus 3 now?
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On December 09 2016 04:59 Musicus wrote:
Btw, do tanks get +7 with attack upgrades vs armored? So do they deal 91 damage vs armored at plus 3 now?
nah it's still +5
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On December 09 2016 05:00 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2016 04:59 Musicus wrote:
Btw, do tanks get +7 with attack upgrades vs armored? So do they deal 91 damage vs armored at plus 3 now? nah it's still +5
Ah okay, weird since they did adjust +3 vs non armored to +4 now.
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burrow infestors not op enough
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United States97276 Posts
I cannot understand French at all but their stream is still pretty hilarious
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godchio bringing back the 3 ravager opening 
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Really? ><
scared me there Nerchio, taking that fight with slow blings like 10 seconds before centrifugal hooks
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Echo isn't a good 3-rax reaper map.
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France12887 Posts
Nerchio beating ByuN? What has this patch done xD.
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France12887 Posts
ByuN 23-16 in recent TvZ, I guess he is bad.
Nerchio 3-1 or uThermal 3-0
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On December 09 2016 06:18 Poopi wrote:ByuN 23-16 in recent TvZ, I guess he is bad. Nerchio 3-1 or uThermal 3-0
liquipedia says bo7
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On December 09 2016 06:18 Poopi wrote:ByuN 23-16 in recent TvZ, I guess he is bad. Nerchio 3-1 or uThermal 3-0
Byun actually hasn't lost a TvZ since the patch (albeit only accros 4 maps, 2:0'd Dark tho)
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The O'Gaming casters are really praising Nerchio by calling him "the best Starcraft player on Euronics Gaming".
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Disappointing series from uThermal. With the new patch, he's gone back to playing like he did nine months ago. I don't think he destroyed more than a handful of creep tumors on Nerchio's side of the map during the entire bo7.
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On December 09 2016 07:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Disappointing series from uThermal. With the new patch, he's gone back to playing like he did nine months ago. I don't think he destroyed more than a handful of creep tumors on Nerchio's side of the map during the entire bo7.
I mean he made BCs and still went for his reapers on a worse map pool. He generally does decently against nerchio just by playing standard
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On December 09 2016 06:21 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2016 06:18 Poopi wrote:ByuN 23-16 in recent TvZ, I guess he is bad. Nerchio 3-1 or uThermal 3-0 Byun actually hasn't lost a TvZ since the patch (albeit only accros 4 maps, 2:0'd Dark tho)
Didn't he drop games against ByuL?
Or there has been a patch after the big reworks as well?
Gg Nerchio, I guess ByuN is very good for even taking games of off him if uThermal got 0-4'd.
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O'GamingTV | 
BaseTradeTV | 
TaKeTV | 
Emil![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Xo97b.png)
ShaDoWn vs 
Nerchio
uThermal vs ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H5LzV.png)
