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His ID is still Neeblet

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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 05 2016 00:42 GMT
#3681
On November 05 2016 09:40 Olli wrote:
I don't like what Zest is doing at all. Robo bay would be so much better every time.


HE doesn't want to play disruptor blink. It's the same vs Neeb he tries to end game before it gets to that point
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3682
On November 05 2016 09:42 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 09:42 Kerence wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:33 Shellshock wrote:
liquibetted Stats. Going to go 1/4 xD

But wait. There's still hope.

At least I didn't pick Neeblet

I picked showtime.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3683
On November 05 2016 09:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 09:38 KeksX wrote:
First Winter asked a question about newbie stuff, now Tempo.

And Temp0 asks the first good question: "Do you want to shake things up after WCS, or do you want to do it every once in a while?"
Answer is basically they want to do it year-to-year. Sounds like they want to do smaller changes throughout the year and design-changing patches like once per year.


Follow-up: Will they revert patches if they turn out to be bad or go through with it all the time?
Answer: Watching patch very closely, they will be careful and they will make changes as needed. Showmatches from totalbiscuit will be important. David kim hopes they will fix broken stuff there, so that they can fix them before they go live.

Temp0 to the rescue \o/

Q&A closes with that

disappointed. I hoped they wouldn't give in to the icefrog model

The difference is that Icefrog does massive changes 3-4 times a year and smaller fine tunings in between, while Blizzard just does nothing and makes tiny changes once every few months. The proposed changes, however bad they are, are the only Icefrog level overhauls that Blizzard has proposed aside from expansions.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3684
Poll: Recommend Zest versus Stats game 3?

★★★★★ A Must Watch (1)
 
6%

★★★★ Fantastic Game (1)
 
6%

★★★ Fun Game (6)
 
35%

★★ Not that interesting (9)
 
53%

★ Just no (0)
 
0%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Zest versus Stats game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ A Must Watch
(Vote): ★★★★ Fantastic Game
(Vote): ★★★ Fun Game
(Vote): ★★ Not that interesting
(Vote): ★ Just no


Neosteel Enthusiast
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3685
On November 05 2016 09:39 Shellshock wrote:
woohoo go Stats! give me 5 points

Give me back $30... I'm 0/3 in Liquibets so far and real bets.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3686
On November 05 2016 09:40 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 09:39 Penev wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:36 Hider wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:32 Hider wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:28 KeksX wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:28 Hider wrote:
On November 05 2016 09:26 KeksX wrote:
Multiplayer panel was a huge disappointment. Basically just "we thought about new units, but then did a balance patch instead. here's the patch thats known for months already."


Also someone just asked if there will be new unit skins lol


Always amuses me how little David Kim and his balance/design colleagues actually do.

All the work he has done could be done in in the last five years could be done in like 200 hours.

To be fair they clarified that they actually tried out all these units themselves.

I just wish they'd push them on PTR for us to try out as well.


Sure, but it's honestly not hard to dismiss bad ideas on paper. Like figuring out if a unit fits a speific role or not is the easiest thing in the world. You don't need to test it.

What you need to test is two things (1) is it actually fun to micro and (2) how does it fit in terms of gamedyanmics.

You should not be spending time working on units that never had any chance of fitting into the game in the first place.


I'm glad you've explained to us how easy game design is. How much experience do you have with it?


Thousands of hours.


Nice.

Working for which company?

digital homicide

i wonder who gets this reference


all 10/10 games

the critics agree

good too see so many ppl know about this great developer
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3687
On November 05 2016 09:42 usopsama wrote:
Fuck. I don't like this. Stats' chances of derping against Byun is extremely high.

Stats is 3-6 against him in the last month but went 2-0 and 1-2 in the most recent meetings. should be pretty good
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
November 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#3688
Stat's gonna win Blizzcon
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
November 05 2016 00:44 GMT
#3689
i hope for dark versus byun finals.
their match at cross finals was amazing
I like Dark
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 05 2016 00:44 GMT
#3690
On November 05 2016 09:43 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 09:42 usopsama wrote:
Fuck. I don't like this. Stats' chances of derping against Byun is extremely high.

Stats is 3-6 against him in the last month but went 2-0 and 1-2 in the most recent meetings. should be pretty good

Stats is amazing at getting into great spots in PvT and then messing up horribly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 05 2016 00:44 GMT
#3691
Has anyone seen if there have been any SC2 ads on other streams? I feel as though I've seen commercials for every game BUT SC2 so far.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 05 2016 00:44 GMT
#3692
Watching live in the arena must be epic with both first person views and the obs footage

Neosteel Enthusiast
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
November 05 2016 00:45 GMT
#3693
On November 05 2016 09:38 KeksX wrote:
First Winter asked a question about newbie stuff, now Tempo.

And Temp0 asks the first good question: "Do you want to shake things up after WCS, or do you want to do it every once in a while?"
Answer sounds like they want to do smaller changes throughout the year and design-changing patches like once per year.


Follow-up: Will they revert patches if they turn out to be bad or go through with it all the time?
Answer: Watching patch very closely, they will be careful and they will make changes as needed. Showmatches from totalbiscuit will be important. David kim hopes they will find broken stuff there, so that they can fix them before they go live.

Temp0 to the rescue \o/

Q&A closes with that

Winter?

THE Winter?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 05 2016 00:45 GMT
#3694
I'd swear I was very entertained by some of the PvPs in the Ro16. What's happening here?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 00:46:38
November 05 2016 00:45 GMT
#3695
Zest is really off today. Stats wins ezpz if he has observers.

In the 1st game, Zest would have won if he had position all his army at the top of the ramp when Stats came back during the base trade. He had several units attacking buildings.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2016 00:45 GMT
#3696
On November 05 2016 09:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Watching live in the arena must be epic with both first person views and the obs footage

https://twitter.com/ZGGaming/status/794701193477881856

that's actually pretty cool. there should be a first person stream
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 05 2016 00:45 GMT
#3697
On November 05 2016 09:44 Solar424 wrote:
Has anyone seen if there have been any SC2 ads on other streams? I feel as though I've seen commercials for every game BUT SC2 so far.


I think during group stages I saw the LotV opening cinematic
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 05 2016 00:45 GMT
#3698
On November 05 2016 09:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'd swear I was very entertained by some of the PvPs in the Ro16. What's happening here?


No foreigner .
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 05 2016 00:46 GMT
#3699
Damnit Stats your match history against each other said that it's Zest's time to win now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 05 2016 00:47 GMT
#3700
On November 05 2016 09:45 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 09:38 KeksX wrote:
First Winter asked a question about newbie stuff, now Tempo.

And Temp0 asks the first good question: "Do you want to shake things up after WCS, or do you want to do it every once in a while?"
Answer sounds like they want to do smaller changes throughout the year and design-changing patches like once per year.


Follow-up: Will they revert patches if they turn out to be bad or go through with it all the time?
Answer: Watching patch very closely, they will be careful and they will make changes as needed. Showmatches from totalbiscuit will be important. David kim hopes they will find broken stuff there, so that they can fix them before they go live.

Temp0 to the rescue \o/

Q&A closes with that

Winter?

THE Winter?



Yes

He asked about post-match info and things to help newbies get better / analyse their play.
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