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w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
October 29 2016 19:13 GMT
#861
go Elazer!
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
Nocci
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany108 Posts
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#862
Dammit, just got home...

Really (pleasently) surprised by the Showtime vs Byun result.

Were the games any good, worth watching despite already knowing the results?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#863
On October 30 2016 04:13 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:08 jalstar wrote:
Real talk gap hasn't closed but it's back to 2011 levels. Foreigners being able to beat Koreans is good for the scene.

agree. foreigners beating koreans gets 30k viewers compared to 100k viewers at previous all koreans wcs finals.

well back in the days more people followed starcraft

people left after WCS changes were announced
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#864
On October 30 2016 04:10 Ppjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:09 EatingBomber wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:05 Hider wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:04 EatingBomber wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:01 Hider wrote:
On October 30 2016 03:59 Ansibled wrote:
lol



Lol I just predicted Thorins tweets.

(which btw were sarcastic).

The whole "only under specific conditions does results/data" matter is so ridiculously retarded and just a clear indicaiton of bias.

Lol. Pity he's being logical though


Yes Showtime outplaying the GSL winner in two macro games is irrelevant and doesn't matter because foreigners always used to outplay one of the very best koreans in macro games.

So let's continue to narrow down the very specific conditions under which we can "finally" proove that the skillcap has narrowed a lot.

LOL. Did you understand the basic meaning behind what Thorn said? Here , let me hold your hand for you: He isn't saying the results aren't relevant. He is saying rather that this result is overhyped as this has happened several times before, and thus that this doesn't prove anything in particular.

Or perhaps keep riding the hype train and remain blissfully oblivious.


it never happened when korean had time to prepare before, some upsets in bo's in long run tournaments. But never before in groups, gsl style


Yes it has, MC had a week to prepare for thorzain and still lost. Naniwa beat Mvp and NesTea in back to back Bo3s, I'm sure I'm forgetting others.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9419 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:14:51
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#865
On October 30 2016 04:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On October 30 2016 04:07 Hider wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:05 Sent. wrote:
I'm surprised Thorin still follows sc2. At least his passion for the game is real.


he just follows stuchios tweets.

And no he has no passion for Sc2. Doesn't like the game.

he is on the other hand the stereotype for the "tryhard elitistl" person who thinks he is cool because he likes BW more than Sc2.

I agree with your general comment that he doesn't follow sc2 really and is trying to make foreigners worse than they are, but cmon you actually can think BW is the better game without being a hipster, let's not make ridiculous claims


Sure you can, and there are definitely some way BW is a better game. But Thorin just has never explained what specifically he likes more about BW other than "Sc2 was shit when it was released in 2010". And I am pretty sure he doesn't watch BW regularly. All he has said was that "He still watches it to this day". sure but that can be one game a month.

And if you really think BW is a fantastic game, then you also think that Sc2 is at least a decent game, because the differences aren't that huge. Like there is no way BW is a 10/10 game and SC2 a 2/10 game.
Thorix77
Profile Joined August 2012
Poland12 Posts
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#866
Unfortunately I feel like Ty will smash Elazer ;/
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#867
On October 30 2016 04:14 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:13 Makro wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:08 jalstar wrote:
Real talk gap hasn't closed but it's back to 2011 levels. Foreigners being able to beat Koreans is good for the scene.

agree. foreigners beating koreans gets 30k viewers compared to 100k viewers at previous all koreans wcs finals.

well back in the days more people followed starcraft

people left after WCS changes were announced

nop
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
October 29 2016 19:14 GMT
#868
On October 30 2016 04:14 Nocci wrote:
Dammit, just got home...

Really (pleasently) surprised by the Showtime vs Byun result.

Were the games any good, worth watching despite already knowing the results?

yes they are still good to watch. especially game 1
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
October 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#869
When I think of Thorin the first thing that comes to mind is how much he loves Poland
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:15:32
October 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#870
On October 30 2016 04:10 Hider wrote:
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On October 30 2016 04:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:04 Hider wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 30 2016 03:59 sharkie wrote:
I remember people making fun of me when I called showtime top2 foreigner. Guess I am more knowledgable thsn them

if u consistently keep making correct projections when 95% of the "experts" say you are wrong....
eventually.. you become the #1 expert.


If you consistently make outrageous predictions and only mention them the few times you actually are correct, you will eventually deceive someone (perhaps yourself) that you are a mastermind.


that why i like to pay attention to outcomes.


Well, if you can make a detailed analysis explaining the weakness's and strenghts of certain players, then I am OK with a "surprise" prediction.

However, when most of the raw data just indicates that Nerchio and Neeb were the two best foreigners, it's most likely just a bad prediction turned "lucky".


true, the less analysis behind the prediction the more times i need to see that person make a correct prediction and the higher their correct prediction ratio must be.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#871
On October 30 2016 04:14 Nocci wrote:
Dammit, just got home...

Really (pleasently) surprised by the Showtime vs Byun result.

Were the games any good, worth watching despite already knowing the results?

Yeah Showtime played well, games were nice to watch.

Neosteel Enthusiast
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
October 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#872
On October 30 2016 04:14 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:13 Makro wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:08 jalstar wrote:
Real talk gap hasn't closed but it's back to 2011 levels. Foreigners being able to beat Koreans is good for the scene.

agree. foreigners beating koreans gets 30k viewers compared to 100k viewers at previous all koreans wcs finals.

well back in the days more people followed starcraft

people left after WCS changes were announced

nop

oh, the viewer numbers they are showing must be wrong then
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#873
I somehow hope TY destroys Elazer, otherwise this all feels so unreal. I need a Korean stomping a foreigner right now.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 29 2016 19:15 GMT
#874
Do people really think that Koreans losing is causing viewership to go down? A lot of people left in the first place due to faceless Koreans
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 29 2016 19:16 GMT
#875
On October 30 2016 04:14 Nocci wrote:
Dammit, just got home...

Really (pleasently) surprised by the Showtime vs Byun result.

Were the games any good, worth watching despite already knowing the results?


if you are protoss then yes some great control and decision making
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 29 2016 19:16 GMT
#876
On October 30 2016 04:15 jalstar wrote:
Do people really think that Koreans losing is causing viewership to go down? A lot of people left in the first place due to faceless Koreans


only one guy thinks that lol..
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
October 29 2016 19:16 GMT
#877
On October 30 2016 04:15 jalstar wrote:
Do people really think that Koreans losing is causing viewership to go down? A lot of people left in the first place due to faceless Koreans

"faceless koreans" oh please not this shit again
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
October 29 2016 19:16 GMT
#878
On October 30 2016 04:14 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:07 Hider wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:05 Sent. wrote:
I'm surprised Thorin still follows sc2. At least his passion for the game is real.


he just follows stuchios tweets.

And no he has no passion for Sc2. Doesn't like the game.

he is on the other hand the stereotype for the "tryhard elitistl" person who thinks he is cool because he likes BW more than Sc2.

I agree with your general comment that he doesn't follow sc2 really and is trying to make foreigners worse than they are, but cmon you actually can think BW is the better game without being a hipster, let's not make ridiculous claims


Sure you can, and there are definitely some way BW is a better game. But Thorin just has never explained what specifically he likes more about BW other than "Sc2 was shit when it was released in 2010". And I am pretty sure he doesn't watch BW regularly. All he has said was that "He still watches it to this day". sure but that can be one game a month.

And if you really think BW is a fantastic game, then you also think that Sc2 is at least a decent game, because the differences aren't that huge. Like there is no way BW is a 10/10 game and SC2 a 2/10 game.

The differences are massive enough that the same gaming population which loves one can reject the other.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
October 29 2016 19:16 GMT
#879
On October 30 2016 04:15 jalstar wrote:
Do people really think that Koreans losing is causing viewership to go down? A lot of people left in the first place due to faceless Koreans

cause is hard to prove.
correlation is easy.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2016 19:16 GMT
#880
On October 30 2016 04:15 jalstar wrote:
Do people really think that Koreans losing is causing viewership to go down? A lot of people left in the first place due to faceless Koreans

the problem is those people didn't come back when wcs changed, they just stopped paying attention to sc2 altogether
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
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