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On August 14 2016 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:39 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
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There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win. id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series. i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that. The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times. Nah, you're missing my point. Take the bo21 as a three times bo7. Is it more clear now? It's still wrong. The notion that a longer series allows the better player to win implies that having a series (or a game) well prepared is not as impressive a skill as having a build that you can repeat consistently. Okay, let's say that two players meet over the course of one year in five bo3, three bo7, and three bo5. I'd easily say that the guy who comes out as the overall winner in that period of time is the better player. My bo21 example should've expressed that but I guess I should have made my point more clear. (Although I still think that one bo21+ series determines the better player, too) Neeb's played TRUE in 2 bo5 and 2 bo3 over the last year and won all of them.
Then my point about TRUE being able to beat any foreigner in the long run just got proven wrong.
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On August 14 2016 07:46 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
OH shit. Soularion getting called out for his power rank. wait what?! my stream lagged out, I missed it! Rotterdam told him that TL placed him 13th on the power rank, and TRUE said that "TL didn't know anything about Starcraft". At least Rotti reads TL! Almost pros are lurking on this thread, when I was at WCS Spring they were all on the LR
I've certainly been called out before for what I post on LR threads.
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Ptitdrogo if you are reading this I want to let you know that Polt will 3-0 you
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United States97276 Posts
On August 14 2016 07:46 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
OH shit. Soularion getting called out for his power rank. wait what?! my stream lagged out, I missed it! Rotterdam told him that TL placed him 13th on the power rank, and TRUE said that "TL didn't know anything about Starcraft". At least Rotti reads TL! Almost pros are lurking on this thread, when I was at WCS Spring they were all on the LR
I bet they have favorite LRers like we have favorite pros
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On August 14 2016 07:47 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Pretty sure Soularion didn't know TRUE won Cheesadelphia otherwise he would have had him top 5 why are you a mod anyway and not a writer? its not like you ever ban anyone
Don't push your luck with a mod. 
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On August 14 2016 07:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:46 Aeromi wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
OH shit. Soularion getting called out for his power rank. wait what?! my stream lagged out, I missed it! Rotterdam told him that TL placed him 13th on the power rank, and TRUE said that "TL didn't know anything about Starcraft". At least Rotti reads TL! Almost pros are lurking on this thread, when I was at WCS Spring they were all on the LR I bet they have favorite LRers like we have favorite pros
need a LR power rank
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On August 14 2016 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Pretty sure Soularion didn't know TRUE won Cheesadelphia otherwise he would have had him top 5
he also had major at 24, heromarine at 21 welmu at 19 drogo at 18 scarlett at 12 mlord at 6 nerchio at 1 etc
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On August 14 2016 07:46 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:39 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
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id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series. i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that. The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times. Nah, you're missing my point. Take the bo21 as a three times bo7. Is it more clear now? It's still wrong. The notion that a longer series allows the better player to win implies that having a series (or a game) well prepared is not as impressive a skill as having a build that you can repeat consistently. Okay, let's say that two players meet over the course of one year in five bo3, three bo7, and three bo5. I'd easily say that the guy who comes out as the overall winner in that period of time is the better player. My bo21 example should've expressed that but I guess I should have made my point more clear. (Although I still think that one bo21+ series determines the better player, too) Neeb's played TRUE in 2 bo5 and 2 bo3 over the last year and won all of them. That's only a bo16, it doesn't show actual skill
What's a bo16?
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On August 14 2016 07:47 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:47 Shellshock wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 Aeromi wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
OH shit. Soularion getting called out for his power rank. wait what?! my stream lagged out, I missed it! Rotterdam told him that TL placed him 13th on the power rank, and TRUE said that "TL didn't know anything about Starcraft". At least Rotti reads TL! Almost pros are lurking on this thread, when I was at WCS Spring they were all on the LR I bet they have favorite LRers like we have favorite pros need a LR power rank
That would be fucking baller.
Please PM me your nominations!
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On August 14 2016 07:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:46 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:39 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
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I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series. i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that. The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times. Nah, you're missing my point. Take the bo21 as a three times bo7. Is it more clear now? It's still wrong. The notion that a longer series allows the better player to win implies that having a series (or a game) well prepared is not as impressive a skill as having a build that you can repeat consistently. Okay, let's say that two players meet over the course of one year in five bo3, three bo7, and three bo5. I'd easily say that the guy who comes out as the overall winner in that period of time is the better player. My bo21 example should've expressed that but I guess I should have made my point more clear. (Although I still think that one bo21+ series determines the better player, too) Neeb's played TRUE in 2 bo5 and 2 bo3 over the last year and won all of them. That's only a bo16, it doesn't show actual skill What's a bo16?
it's when you add 2 bo5s and 2 bo3s
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On August 14 2016 07:48 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:39 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
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i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D
TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that. The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times. Nah, you're missing my point. Take the bo21 as a three times bo7. Is it more clear now? It's still wrong. The notion that a longer series allows the better player to win implies that having a series (or a game) well prepared is not as impressive a skill as having a build that you can repeat consistently. Okay, let's say that two players meet over the course of one year in five bo3, three bo7, and three bo5. I'd easily say that the guy who comes out as the overall winner in that period of time is the better player. My bo21 example should've expressed that but I guess I should have made my point more clear. (Although I still think that one bo21+ series determines the better player, too) Neeb's played TRUE in 2 bo5 and 2 bo3 over the last year and won all of them. That's only a bo16, it doesn't show actual skill What's a bo16? it's when you add 2 bo5s and 2 bo3s
Excellent reasoning!
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On August 14 2016 07:46 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:39 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
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id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series. i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that. The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times. Nah, you're missing my point. Take the bo21 as a three times bo7. Is it more clear now? It's still wrong. The notion that a longer series allows the better player to win implies that having a series (or a game) well prepared is not as impressive a skill as having a build that you can repeat consistently. Okay, let's say that two players meet over the course of one year in five bo3, three bo7, and three bo5. I'd easily say that the guy who comes out as the overall winner in that period of time is the better player. My bo21 example should've expressed that but I guess I should have made my point more clear. (Although I still think that one bo21+ series determines the better player, too) Neeb's played TRUE in 2 bo5 and 2 bo3 over the last year and won all of them. That's only a bo16, it doesn't show actual skill
Wow no need to get salty, read my above post.
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Italy12246 Posts
On August 14 2016 07:47 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Pretty sure Soularion didn't know TRUE won Cheesadelphia otherwise he would have had him top 5 why are you a mod anyway and not a writer? its not like you ever ban anyone
I find it convenient to have a mod around who works even less than i do
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On August 14 2016 07:47 Deathstar wrote:
Ptitdrogo if you are reading this I want to let you know that Polt will 3-0 you
only 3-0? don't you think you giving him too much credit?
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On August 14 2016 07:49 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:47 Deathstar wrote:
Ptitdrogo if you are reading this I want to let you know that Polt will 3-0 you only 3-0? don't you think you giving him too much credit?
Don't think Polt will 1-0 in a Bo5 ever again.
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On August 14 2016 07:49 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:47 Deathstar wrote:
Ptitdrogo if you are reading this I want to let you know that Polt will 3-0 you only 3-0? don't you think you giving him too much credit?
gonna 17-0 him in that Bo5!
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On August 14 2016 07:49 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:47 Paljas wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Pretty sure Soularion didn't know TRUE won Cheesadelphia otherwise he would have had him top 5 why are you a mod anyway and not a writer? its not like you ever ban anyone I find it convenient to have a mod around who works even less than i do
You should've made me staff in that case...
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On August 14 2016 07:48 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:39 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
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i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D
TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that. The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times. Nah, you're missing my point. Take the bo21 as a three times bo7. Is it more clear now? It's still wrong. The notion that a longer series allows the better player to win implies that having a series (or a game) well prepared is not as impressive a skill as having a build that you can repeat consistently. Okay, let's say that two players meet over the course of one year in five bo3, three bo7, and three bo5. I'd easily say that the guy who comes out as the overall winner in that period of time is the better player. My bo21 example should've expressed that but I guess I should have made my point more clear. (Although I still think that one bo21+ series determines the better player, too) Neeb's played TRUE in 2 bo5 and 2 bo3 over the last year and won all of them. That's only a bo16, it doesn't show actual skill What's a bo16? it's when you add 2 bo5s and 2 bo3s
...wouldn't that be a bo19.
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On August 14 2016 07:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 07:46 Aeromi wrote:On August 14 2016 07:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 14 2016 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
OH shit. Soularion getting called out for his power rank. wait what?! my stream lagged out, I missed it! Rotterdam told him that TL placed him 13th on the power rank, and TRUE said that "TL didn't know anything about Starcraft". At least Rotti reads TL! Almost pros are lurking on this thread, when I was at WCS Spring they were all on the LR I bet they have favorite LRers like we have favorite pros
That would be adoriable in a weird way
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The real problem for the foreign scene is that they don't have a weekly league to play in and to practice for constantly.
That's the main issue here.
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