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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12487 Posts
August 13 2016 22:53 GMT
#2641
On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve .

That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition.

Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve.

If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run.

That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.

You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better.

Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play.


All of this awareness and intelligence from the community that pressured Blizzard into region locking because Check and Pigbaby weren't relatable, I'm impressed.
No will to live, no wish to die
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 13 2016 22:53 GMT
#2642
On August 14 2016 07:53 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!

i nominate gumba

DOOD PLEASE LEARN TO READ WHAT THE HELL.


PMing a Canadian is scary, they'll be too polite!

You post this JUST as I give thanks for Cricketer12...
kiss kiss fall in love
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2016 22:53 GMT
#2643
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2016 22:54 GMT
#2644
On August 14 2016 07:53 Deathstar wrote:
Shellshock transcends all mods and admins. With his 86k post he is literally atlas carrying LR threads on his shoulder

sorry but this isn't 2012 premium stream 6 AM EU time Code A threads
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 13 2016 22:54 GMT
#2645
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!
kiss kiss fall in love
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2016 22:54 GMT
#2646
On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve .

That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition.

Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve.

If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run.

That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.

You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better.

Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play.

You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair.
Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 13 2016 22:54 GMT
#2647
Apollo is so close
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
August 13 2016 22:54 GMT
#2648
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

damn...I regret sending pm now...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#2649
On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!

I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#2650
On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!

Elentos doesn't really shitpost that much tho
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#2651
What is the saltier result? Tell me your opinions LR. Polt or Ptitdrogo. I think it might be too late to cash in on French salt but maybe we can mine from terrans
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12487 Posts
August 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#2652
On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve .

That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition.

Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve.

If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run.

That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.

You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better.

Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play.

You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair.
Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds


Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool.
No will to live, no wish to die
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#2653
On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!

I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh

Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though?
kiss kiss fall in love
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 22:56:17
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2654
On August 14 2016 07:55 Shellshock wrote:
What is the saltier result? Tell me your opinions LR. Polt or Ptitdrogo. I think it might be too late to cash in on French salt but maybe we can mine from terrans

Polt draws a game by in-game rules
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 22:56:14
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2655
Polt vs Ptitdrogo who wants to sigbet me 6 months. I am with Polt
rip passion
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2656
On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!

I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh

It was enough to get called out on stream by Rotti during NationWars 3
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2657
On August 14 2016 07:52 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The real problem for the foreign scene is that they don't have a weekly league to play in and to practice for constantly.
That's the main issue here.


Well, they had it last year... Not enough foreign champions I heard.

I don't remember a weekly league for foreigners to compete in. Like proleague
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2658
On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve .

That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition.

Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve.

If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run.

That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.

You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better.

Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play.

You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair.
Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds


I agree with your idea, though I disagree with the extreme you took it to.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2659
On August 14 2016 07:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!

I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh

It was enough to get called out on stream by Rotti during NationWars 3

Very few people can have 27k posts and genuinely say "I don't shitpost."
kiss kiss fall in love
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#2660
On August 14 2016 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Still looking for LR nominations for the LR shitposter power rank.


The_Templar got called out by Scarlett once on stream. That's worth something.

Please PM me for nominations!


Dude this is a shitposter power rank. We have to promote ourselves by posting the suggestions in this thread instead of PMing them. Cricketer12 is noteworthy, though his form has declined a lot since Blizzcon 2014.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa

are our current nominations!

I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh

Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though?

Ej_
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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