• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:40
CEST 13:40
KST 20:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments1[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes145BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Big Programming Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1615 users

[IEM XI] Shanghai Quarter Final & Semi Finals - Page 37

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 Next All
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3440 Posts
July 30 2016 08:05 GMT
#721
#teamliquid.netop
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
July 30 2016 08:05 GMT
#722
On July 30 2016 16:59 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
One bad engagement in the beginning makes a player lose the game.

Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack.

banes and infestor are comeback mechanics, but are harder to make work. But they still are.

Also, don't forget much easier access to drops that can allow bane and ling drops and counterattacks
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
July 30 2016 08:06 GMT
#723
TeamLiquid Guy saving esports
Innovation is a PatchTerran
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4507 Posts
July 30 2016 08:06 GMT
#724
Everyone's an underdog vs Neeb
hi. big fan.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 30 2016 08:08 GMT
#725
On July 30 2016 17:05 FataLe wrote:
Show yourself, Team Liquid guy


On July 30 2016 15:47 Kovzirg wrote:
He literally could've insta-won the game right there.


Kovzirg saving uThermal.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 30 2016 08:08 GMT
#726
On July 30 2016 17:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
One bad engagement in the beginning makes a player lose the game.

Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack.

ling counter attacks are the best comeback mechanic in the game. Life won so many lost games where he came back with ling runbys.

Better than marine/marauder drops? Life was also a once in a lifetime kinda player and no one else was able to do the same.
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
July 30 2016 08:09 GMT
#727
I swear to god that the best part of the event is the chinese reactions
Innovation is a PatchTerran
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4507 Posts
July 30 2016 08:10 GMT
#728
On July 30 2016 17:02 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 16:59 FataLe wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
One bad engagement in the beginning makes a player lose the game.

Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack.

banes and infestor are comeback mechanics, but are harder to make work. But they still are.

Slow banes are useless and even speed banes don´t do it if you are far behind. Infestors alone do shit and if you are behind in army supply you are praying for a mistake from terran. (eg a-moving into a choke)

dude, you're reaching. I even gave you the (they're harder to make work) talk but even then you're not pleased. They are comeback units. Burrow, Speed, non. If a mistake or flank or the innumerable permutations and variations of an engagement can go, usually those units are key. Ofc they're better when your opponent makes a mistake, that's sort of how every unit works.
hi. big fan.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-30 08:11:08
July 30 2016 08:10 GMT
#729
On July 30 2016 17:05 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 17:03 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
One bad engagement in the beginning makes a player lose the game.

Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack.

ling counter attacks are the best comeback mechanic in the game. Life won so many lost games where he came back with ling runbys.


THIS. And terran doesnt have static defense, you need to leave army supply behind, weaking your push

Terran douple drop walks into 2-3 spines. Spines die. Don´t act like Z can defend terran drops without units. (P maybe)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
July 30 2016 08:12 GMT
#730
Yay uthermy gratz for making the finals
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
July 30 2016 08:12 GMT
#731
On July 30 2016 17:09 MLuneth wrote:
I swear to god that the best part of the event is the chinese reactions


Yeah, great pictures!!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
July 30 2016 08:12 GMT
#732
First final this year without any zerg?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
July 30 2016 08:13 GMT
#733
On July 30 2016 17:10 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 17:05 Sif_ wrote:
On July 30 2016 17:03 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote:
On July 30 2016 16:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
One bad engagement in the beginning makes a player lose the game.

Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack.

ling counter attacks are the best comeback mechanic in the game. Life won so many lost games where he came back with ling runbys.


THIS. And terran doesnt have static defense, you need to leave army supply behind, weaking your push

Terran douple drop walks into 2-3 spines. Spines die. Don´t act like Z can defend terran drops without units. (P maybe)


double drop in a comeback scenario means the Z can easily defend if he's sitting at his bases or can easily overrun if on the offensive

also, 2-3 spines plus queen/spore can buy a lot of time for the defense
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 30 2016 08:13 GMT
#734
On July 30 2016 17:12 BaneRiders wrote:
First final this year without any zerg?

Zest vs TY
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
July 30 2016 08:15 GMT
#735
Oh great IEM finals are at an even more unwatchable time than the Proleague finals for EU
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
July 30 2016 08:18 GMT
#736
So is it 9AM tomorrow, Chinese time?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 30 2016 08:19 GMT
#737
On July 30 2016 17:15 Elentos wrote:
Oh great IEM finals are at an even more unwatchable time than the Proleague finals for EU


Oceania master race.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
July 30 2016 08:28 GMT
#738
On July 30 2016 17:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 17:12 BaneRiders wrote:
First final this year without any zerg?

Zest vs TY


Alright, but outside Korea I think there was always one zerg in the premier finals so far.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4507 Posts
July 30 2016 08:29 GMT
#739
On July 30 2016 17:19 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2016 17:15 Elentos wrote:
Oh great IEM finals are at an even more unwatchable time than the Proleague finals for EU


Oceania master race.

OCN > NA > KR > EU
hi. big fan.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 30 2016 08:30 GMT
#740
@juicyjames I'd recommend Showtime vs Neeb Game 3.
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 2: Playoffs Day 7
Reynor vs CureLIVE!
TBD vs Zoun
Tasteless1241
Crank 1170
RotterdaM748
IndyStarCraft 230
Rex129
CranKy Ducklings106
3DClanTV 67
IntoTheiNu 32
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1241
Crank 1170
RotterdaM 748
IndyStarCraft 230
Rex 129
ProTech66
MindelVK 37
Railgan 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32700
Calm 7143
Rain 2335
Horang2 2287
Flash 1634
GuemChi 1251
EffOrt 589
Larva 498
actioN 425
BeSt 354
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 348
Hyun 248
Zeus 209
Last 193
firebathero 192
PianO 166
Pusan 95
Soma 92
ZZZero.O 76
Sharp 70
Rush 69
sSak 60
ajuk12(nOOB) 56
Aegong 56
Free 56
Soulkey 51
Nal_rA 46
Movie 39
Mong 36
sas.Sziky 28
soO 23
Sexy 23
Sacsri 22
Icarus 17
ivOry 13
HiyA 12
Hm[arnc] 5
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
singsing2442
XcaliburYe1078
Dendi811
Fuzer 223
qojqva22
Counter-Strike
allub235
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor178
Other Games
B2W.Neo885
crisheroes367
DeMusliM362
Lowko115
NeuroSwarm53
Trikslyr26
OptimusSC210
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick709
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1339
• Stunt533
Other Games
• WagamamaTV309
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3h 20m
OSC
9h 20m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
20h 20m
RSL Revival
22h 20m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
23h 20m
Online Event
1d 4h
Wardi Open
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.