heh, TY with a glorious undefeated 8-0 recorded from SSL qualifiers going against some nameless player who didnt even have a winning record in SSL q's and failed to advance. Talk about unfair match-up
Took like 10 seconds to find the banner from the last JA vs KT match but I don't think I can sue you for being too lazy to search for it.
On July 02 2016 17:30 swissman777 wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:25 Phredxor wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:24 Cricketer12 wrote: 7 am est? Wtf
OP also says June 18. I wouldn't worry about it.
And the banner is Jin Air vs MVP.
Pande didn't make a new on so I copied an old one. Sue me
Well then, I would like to request darkolli to be the judge and the TL administrator to be lawyers and persecuters
Need someone in Canada to deliver the punishment.
Elentos who do you think wins this? Because so far everyone I have seen has predicted that the team they are rooting for loses.
Also Jer is canadian, he can do the deed
It's the safe option. That way when you lose you can be all 'Meh, thought we'd lose anyway'.
True. I mean I really want KT to win but 9 out of 10 times we fuck up against Jin Air so Jin Air probably wins. Even though I LB'd KT because of bias.
But it's fine if Jin Air wins this round, at least then we don't have to play them in all-kill in post-season.
I just feel like Leenock is gonna play macro and lose so we're immediately behind.
I kinda feel like g1 is irrelevant. I don't see any of our big three winning...maybe rogue can pull off a win but Zest should win the ace no matter what.
Took like 10 seconds to find the banner from the last JA vs KT match but I don't think I can sue you for being too lazy to search for it.
On July 02 2016 17:30 swissman777 wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:25 Phredxor wrote:
On July 02 2016 17:24 Cricketer12 wrote: 7 am est? Wtf
OP also says June 18. I wouldn't worry about it.
And the banner is Jin Air vs MVP.
Pande didn't make a new on so I copied an old one. Sue me
Well then, I would like to request darkolli to be the judge and the TL administrator to be lawyers and persecuters
Need someone in Canada to deliver the punishment.
Elentos who do you think wins this? Because so far everyone I have seen has predicted that the team they are rooting for loses.
Also Jer is canadian, he can do the deed
It's the safe option. That way when you lose you can be all 'Meh, thought we'd lose anyway'.
True. I mean I really want KT to win but 9 out of 10 times we fuck up against Jin Air so Jin Air probably wins. Even though I LB'd KT because of bias.
But it's fine if Jin Air wins this round, at least then we don't have to play them in all-kill in post-season.
I just feel like Leenock is gonna play macro and lose so we're immediately behind.
I kinda feel like g1 is irrelevant. I don't see any of our big three winning...maybe rogue can pull off a win but Zest should win the ace no matter what.
Maru's got a pretty solid shot at winning and I'm reluctant to count sOs out against Stats simply because he does sOs things.
I mean I hope you're right, but against Jin Air things just never work out for KT. Even with more favorable lineups than today.
What were those empty boxes on the right of the Winners Ranking supposed to be? If they were penalty indicators herO should have that box full on his row
I hate the summer. it's too hot. I went to the gas station today and the coolness of AC that hit me when I entered made me go like, I'm home, I never want to leave. And as I walked out, the heat wave that greeted me was saying, welcome back to hell, bitch. did you miss me
On July 02 2016 18:37 Noonius wrote: I hate the summer. it's too hot. I went to the gas station today and the coolness of AC that hit me when I entered made me go like, I'm home, I never want to leave. And as I walked out, the heat wave that greeted me was saying, welcome back to hell, bitch. did you miss me
Cool story mate, I'm not very different though lol.
Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
On July 02 2016 18:42 Pursuit_ wrote: Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
He lost over 20 probes to baneling drops he didn't react to. If that doesn't happen he can probably kill Rogue.
On July 02 2016 18:42 Pursuit_ wrote: Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
He lost over 20 probes to baneling drops he didn't react to. If that doesn't happen he can probably kill Rogue.
his drops didn't do anything it was the ling run by at the third that wrecked his probe count
On July 02 2016 18:42 Pursuit_ wrote: Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
He lost over 20 probes to baneling drops he didn't react to. If that doesn't happen he can probably kill Rogue.
his drops didn't do anything it was the ling run by at the third that wrecked his probe count
Then it was a runby he didn't react to at all. So what? That's still inexcusable.
On July 02 2016 18:42 Pursuit_ wrote: Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
He lost over 20 probes to baneling drops he didn't react to. If that doesn't happen he can probably kill Rogue.
Yeah the baneling drops did way too much damage but he was risking losing his army at the same ime, Rogue did that first drop / runbye that killed 14 probes right when Zest was pushing in with a mostly sentry army, if Zest had lost those sentries he would have lost the game right there.
On July 02 2016 18:42 Pursuit_ wrote: Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
He lost over 20 probes to baneling drops he didn't react to. If that doesn't happen he can probably kill Rogue.
Yeah the baneling drops did way too much damage but he was risking losing his army at the same ime, Rogue did that first drop that killed 14 probes right when Zest was pushing in with a mostly sentry army, if Zest had lost those sentries he would have lost the game right there.
That kind of thing doesn't happen to Stats for example.
On July 02 2016 18:42 Pursuit_ wrote: Rogue actually looking really strong in that game, Zest maybe flopping the defense a bit but it's hard to defend when Zerg is so relentlessly aggressive.
He lost over 20 probes to baneling drops he didn't react to. If that doesn't happen he can probably kill Rogue.
Yeah the baneling drops did way too much damage but he was risking losing his army at the same ime, Rogue did that first drop that killed 14 probes right when Zest was pushing in with a mostly sentry army, if Zest had lost those sentries he would have lost the game right there.
That kind of thing doesn't happen to Stats for example.
6-1 for TY what the fuck?
Yeah that surprises me. Would have thought it'd be a close 4-3 to one or the other. I'd still favor Maru even after SSL. His TvT record is just bonkers.
On July 02 2016 18:41 Kaizor wrote: Holy shit, if there was anything that could made Wolf a worse caster than he already is, this game just did it.
Honestly don't understand why, he was making mostly good calls and hyping the game well imo.
Hyping? I don't know man that was just some irritating shouting to me, and his voice just isn't appealing enough for hype especially with the incessant shouting.
On July 02 2016 18:41 Kaizor wrote: Holy shit, if there was anything that could made Wolf a worse caster than he already is, this game just did it.
Honestly don't understand why, he was making mostly good calls and hyping the game well imo.
Hyping? I don't know man that was just some irritating shouting to me, and his voice just isn't appealing enough for hype especially with the incessant shouting.
On July 02 2016 18:53 Ej_ wrote: ok I've just woken up, can someone quickly recap the last 2 games to me cause that's certainly not what I expected
Leenock and Cure made horrible mistakes, throwing the game back and forth. Cure threw the best though. Then Rogue checkmated Zest with harassment and teching while Zest pushed.
All those casters except Wolf were such fools. I was surprised when I saw it 6-1 for TY picked over Maru. TY's TvT is good, but against people mechanically better than him (Maru/Inno - yes even Inno slumping currently) can outplay him fairly easily.
I would gladly pay all the money in the world to see a BO7 of this, even though it would probably be 4:0, the games, AMAZING. As expected, GG MARU, what a beast
On July 02 2016 19:04 yoshi245 wrote: All those casters except Wolf were such fools. I was surprised when I saw it 6-1 for TY picked over Maru. TY's TvT is good, but against people mechanically better than him (Maru/Inno - yes even Inno slumping currently) can outplay him fairly easily.
The all-time record for TY vs Maru is super even. TY vs INnoVation is completely one-sided in Inno's favor.
On July 02 2016 19:03 Noonius wrote: PL games do not matter. simply disgusting
ahahahaha ok
how to find Jin Air fans: say that individual leagues are more telling of players' skill than Proleague
I never said that, I prefer individual leagues actually. His dismissal after cheering so hard for his player was funny though, "whatever it doesn't matter anyways, this is dumb!".
On July 02 2016 19:04 yoshi245 wrote: All those casters except Wolf were such fools. I was surprised when I saw it 6-1 for TY picked over Maru. TY's TvT is good, but against people mechanically better than him (Maru/Inno - yes even Inno slumping currently) can outplay him fairly easily.
The all-time record for TY vs Maru is super even. TY vs INnoVation is completely one-sided in Inno's favor.
I don't think you're right.
weren't most of TY vs Inno matches in hots during "mech is godly in tvt" era?
On July 02 2016 19:03 Noonius wrote: PL games do not matter. simply disgusting
ahahahaha ok
how to find Jin Air fans: say that individual leagues are more telling of players' skill than Proleague
I never said that, I prefer individual leagues actually. His dismissal after cheering so hard for his player was funny though, "whatever it doesn't matter anyways, this is dumb!".
it's usually best just to pretend Noonius doesn't exist, makes the threads a lot better
On July 02 2016 19:04 yoshi245 wrote: All those casters except Wolf were such fools. I was surprised when I saw it 6-1 for TY picked over Maru. TY's TvT is good, but against people mechanically better than him (Maru/Inno - yes even Inno slumping currently) can outplay him fairly easily.
The all-time record for TY vs Maru is super even. TY vs INnoVation is completely one-sided in Inno's favor.
I don't think you're right.
Not sure about this and I am lazy to look but I think maru trashed TY in the last 3 games. And if someone beast a player regularly on his absolute peak, and in a mirror matchup as well, it just tell the tale really. TY is just not as good as maru and never was
On July 02 2016 19:04 yoshi245 wrote: All those casters except Wolf were such fools. I was surprised when I saw it 6-1 for TY picked over Maru. TY's TvT is good, but against people mechanically better than him (Maru/Inno - yes even Inno slumping currently) can outplay him fairly easily.
The all-time record for TY vs Maru is super even. TY vs INnoVation is completely one-sided in Inno's favor.
I don't think you're right.
weren't most of TY vs Inno matches in hots during "mech is godly in tvt" era?
On July 02 2016 19:03 Noonius wrote: PL games do not matter. simply disgusting
ahahahaha ok
how to find Jin Air fans: say that individual leagues are more telling of players' skill than Proleague
I never said that, I prefer individual leagues actually. His dismissal after cheering so hard for his player was funny though, "whatever it doesn't matter anyways, this is dumb!".
it's usually best just to pretend Noonius doesn't exist, makes the threads a lot better
On July 02 2016 19:04 yoshi245 wrote: All those casters except Wolf were such fools. I was surprised when I saw it 6-1 for TY picked over Maru. TY's TvT is good, but against people mechanically better than him (Maru/Inno - yes even Inno slumping currently) can outplay him fairly easily.
The all-time record for TY vs Maru is super even. TY vs INnoVation is completely one-sided in Inno's favor.
I don't think you're right.
Coming into this match I knew Maru was gonna win it. In regards to proleague, last time I recall TY actually beating Maru was wayyyy back when he did a build order win (somewhat, though it was a rare case of TY completely outplaying Maru) on that same map too. Even so, it was funny to see 6 out of 7 casters write Maru off and predict TY for this. Maru's near flawless record and momentum in PL while TY has been rather mediocre tells a deeper story. Too much stock seems to be given in individual league results.
On July 02 2016 19:03 Noonius wrote: PL games do not matter. simply disgusting
ahahahaha ok
how to find Jin Air fans: say that individual leagues are more telling of players' skill than Proleague
I never said that, I prefer individual leagues actually. His dismissal after cheering so hard for his player was funny though, "whatever it doesn't matter anyways, this is dumb!".
it's usually best just to pretend Noonius doesn't exist, makes the threads a lot better
I'd like to pretend that Jin Air fans don't exist because they're annoying, too, but then these threads would be so empty.
Got the Forge, guess that was worth it. I wonder how Interceptors interact with the air blocker, say if the Carriers are on one side and Interceptors on another. Can imagine they start bugging out
I really wanted stats to attack in top, pull SoS' army up there, and then recall to his nexus in the bottom and attack SoS main. Instead he just killed him :p
On July 02 2016 19:26 shabby wrote: Carrier vs carrier in KT Jin Air 2016, jeez. Didnt expect that, and somehow the final battle was a little underwhelming
With Tempests and an Oracle for revelation he could have held back the harass and the attacking army.
Rogue vs Zest rematch I guess. Swarm hosts? Maru wont come out after the SSL trashing I think. He would still make a fool out of Stats, but Zest is just too good against maru
On July 02 2016 19:27 Pandemona wrote: Yeah as much as Maru is the best player on JA at the moment, they have to know Zest is coming. Maru's bane/kryptonite etcetc
how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
On July 02 2016 19:28 Phredxor wrote: Everyone thinks KT always send Zest. So JA will send Rogue to snipe. And of course KT will oblige and actually send Zest, cus KT.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
On July 02 2016 19:28 Phredxor wrote: Everyone thinks KT always send Zest. So JA will send Rogue to snipe. And of course KT will oblige and actually send Zest, cus KT.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
On July 02 2016 19:28 Phredxor wrote: Everyone thinks KT always send Zest. So JA will send Rogue to snipe. And of course KT will oblige and actually send Zest, cus KT.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes, they only know the maps before picking players
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes, all match ups are pre determined. Coach picks a player for each map without knowing the other teams pick.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
On July 02 2016 19:28 Phredxor wrote: Everyone thinks KT always send Zest. So JA will send Rogue to snipe. And of course KT will oblige and actually send Zest, cus KT.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes, all match ups are pre determined. Coach picks a player for each map without knowing the other teams pick.
thats pretty lucky... cuz i often see rogue vs zest..
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes. Map order is known and teams send their picks for each map out in advance
On July 02 2016 19:27 blooblooblahblah wrote: This genuinely gives me a slight hope for island maps in sc2.
Great strategy by Stats, and great design with the islands. I really hope people experiment more with these air blockers
gonna be really fun in ZvP with Zerg going nydus all-in every time
Well yeah, nydus will be massive weakness for this style but holy crap imagine if Stats spammed a bunch of cannons at the entrances to the islands. A protoss would never be able to reach the base with anything that isn't air.
I thought very strongly that Maru would beat TY, but these other games have been pure Tom-fuckery. I figured that they chose Rogue to snipe Zest in the first game with a particular strategy for Frost, but I'm surprised to see them send him out again against Zest (I know it's blind but there was a really high chance Zest was coming out) when he already played him once. Zest is strong in a longer series (as most top tier players are) but I'm just wondering what Rogue has that makes them believe that he can take another game off of Zest with what people are saying is a Z imbalance in the Korean meta.
MORE WILL BE REVEALED, AMEN FOR A FINALS PREVIEW, and this has been a great day for SC2 no matter what the results, and I'm a JA fan from HELL
On July 02 2016 19:33 Phredxor wrote: Seeing blue flame hellbats really makes me miss the glory days of hellbat drops. What a time to be alive that was.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes, all match ups are pre determined. Coach picks a player for each map without knowing the other teams pick.
thats pretty lucky... cuz i often see rogue vs zest..
part of it is knowing which map they'd want to send Zest on, they won't want to send Zest on a map where Protoss is weaker
On July 02 2016 19:33 ejozl wrote: Rogue best Zerg player that is allowed to play in Korea confirmed. Other Zergs simply don't get to be the Ace match
You're insinuating that the cheater is better than Rogue? We haven't even seen Life in a while, plus he had slowly lost form over his last times in SC2. I guess it's impossible to say what his form was since there was matchfixing involved T_T
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes, all match ups are pre determined. Coach picks a player for each map without knowing the other teams pick.
thats pretty lucky... cuz i often see rogue vs zest..
part of it is knowing which map they'd want to send Zest on, they won't want to send Zest on a map where Protoss is weaker
Well... I mean...
The map pool was Overgrowth/Frost/King Sejong/Gettysburg. I'm pretty sure they sent him out on the worst Protoss map.
On July 02 2016 19:28 BLAQMAN wrote: how to the teams decide who to send out? lets say 1. KT wants to play zest 2. JAG wants to send rouge to counter 3. KT doesnt want to play zest vs rouge, sends TY 4. JAG doesnt want rouge to play TY, sends Maru 5. KT doesnt want TY vs Maru again, wants to send Zest..
.. etc how does it work?
each team picks their player without knowing who the other team is picking, it's blind
is this the same for non-ace matches as well?
yes, all match ups are pre determined. Coach picks a player for each map without knowing the other teams pick.
thats pretty lucky... cuz i often see rogue vs zest..
part of it is knowing which map they'd want to send Zest on, they won't want to send Zest on a map where Protoss is weaker
Well... I mean...
The map pool was Overgrowth/Frost/King Sejong/Gettysburg. I'm pretty sure they sent him out on the worst Protoss map.
On July 02 2016 19:33 Phredxor wrote: Seeing blue flame hellbats really makes me miss the glory days of hellbat drops. What a time to be alive that was.
" All these moments will be lost I like tears in the rain"
On July 02 2016 19:33 Phredxor wrote: Seeing blue flame hellbats really makes me miss the glory days of hellbat drops. What a time to be alive that was.
" All these moments will be lost I like tears in the rain"
I once rewrote that whole monologue for sc2. Got zero recognition. : /
Zest really almost never looks happy. Doesn't mean anything. It's like when Classic looks like he's about to cry in the booth when he's down in a series and then crushes his way to victory.
Zest is not overrated, but other players can be good too I feel bad I always blindly fanboi predict JinAir to win, but this time I guess I was swayed by silly logic and bet on KT
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
Well, the answers to my questions: 1. Of course. 2. No. 3. YEEEESSSS!!!!
On July 02 2016 19:54 Topdoller wrote: Zest is so overrated. Great set of games btw
Don't think so. Just not very good vs Zerg.
While that might be true it's odd that he loses basic skills such as microing sentries or being map aware.
The two might not be completely unrelated. I've always noticed that in my worst matchup, im also making the most mechanical errors. Confidence in a match up does seem also affect your basic skills, while when im really confident in a matchup, usually my mechanics are alot more focused and im more aggressively getting vision on the map.
I will say tho, none of Zest's LotV play has impressed me as much as his HotS play did when he was at his peak. His decision making and everything was just so beautiful.
Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
On July 02 2016 20:14 Elentos wrote: Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
On July 02 2016 20:14 Elentos wrote: Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
except Stats is really bad vs maru
The last time they played they had a really epic game that Stats probably should have won. So I'm not sure that's still true. Zest is clearly the best PvT player on the planet though.
But Jin Air didn't send out Maru. I don't think Maru has actually played an ace match this year.
On July 02 2016 20:14 Elentos wrote: Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
except Stats is really bad vs maru
The last time they played they had a really epic game that Stats probably should have won. So I'm not sure that's still true. Zest is clearly the best PvT player on the planet though.
But Jin Air didn't send out Maru. I don't think Maru has actually played an ace match this year.
Well Jin Air has only had 2 ace matches, other was Rogue vs herO
On July 02 2016 20:14 Elentos wrote: Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
except Stats is really bad vs maru
The last time they played they had a really epic game that Stats probably should have won. So I'm not sure that's still true. Zest is clearly the best PvT player on the planet though.
But Jin Air didn't send out Maru. I don't think Maru has actually played an ace match this year.
From the styles themselves, Stats' style is good for maru and stats said (I remember once but prob more) that he was scared of maru. Obviously tho, no one knows, but the same goes for zest vs rogue and other players.
On July 02 2016 20:14 Elentos wrote: Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
except Stats is really bad vs maru
The last time they played they had a really epic game that Stats probably should have won. So I'm not sure that's still true. Zest is clearly the best PvT player on the planet though.
But Jin Air didn't send out Maru. I don't think Maru has actually played an ace match this year.
From the styles themselves, Stats' style is good for maru and stats said (I remember once but prob more) that he was scared of maru. Obviously tho, no one knows, but the same goes for zest vs rogue and other players.
Idk, the last PvTs I've seen Stats play are a while back already, but they were pretty much Zest's style and that's the one Maru can't handle. Need to see more from Stats I guess.
KT expected Maru in the ace match thats why they sent out Zest (whos 5-1 to Maru this yeah i think). Otherwise probably they send out Stats who is more expirienced PvZ this year. Not that in matters anyway the finals will be KT vs Jin Air for sure !
On July 02 2016 22:31 Aunvilgodess wrote: soo, all good games today or what?
Stats vs sOs was.. interesting. Leenock vs Cure was mostly just poor play from Cure. Zest vs Rogue was Zest looking poor and Rogue good. TY vs Maru had some nice stuff.
On July 02 2016 22:31 Aunvilgodess wrote: soo, all good games today or what?
I'd say they were pretty good overall, although I probably wouldn't recommend either of the Rogue vs Zest games. Cure vs Leenock was a bit of a trainwreck but it was still fun.
On July 02 2016 20:14 Elentos wrote: Well, back now, Zest's build in the ace match made absolutely no sense to me and his play looked bad in general. Deserved win for Jin Air, they basically never make coaching/player selection mistakes against KT. TY or Stats could have won KT the match but they were too scared of Maru. And I think at this point Stats is better than Zest in 2 out of 3 matchups.
Looking forward to those KT vs Jin Air grand finals though, this was a really fun match.
except Stats is really bad vs maru
The last time they played they had a really epic game that Stats probably should have won. So I'm not sure that's still true. Zest is clearly the best PvT player on the planet though.
But Jin Air didn't send out Maru. I don't think Maru has actually played an ace match this year.
From the styles themselves, Stats' style is good for maru and stats said (I remember once but prob more) that he was scared of maru. Obviously tho, no one knows, but the same goes for zest vs rogue and other players.
Idk, the last PvTs I've seen Stats play are a while back already, but they were pretty much Zest's style and that's the one Maru can't handle. Need to see more from Stats I guess.
From what I have seen, Zest does more radical play whilst Stats does not. I think that's the crucial difference here.
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