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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 05 2016 14:08 GMT
#941
On March 05 2016 23:05 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:03 Hider wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:52 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:52 WigglingSquid wrote:
Valdes would be better off not trying to match Maynarde's shoutcasting style.

It's his style. He's not an analyst. It's actually a bad combo because it's 2 color commentators and no analyst.


I've seen Valdes get a lot of praise for his casting, but I am not really sure what he actually offers. His game knowledge is average and he isn't that good of a hype caster either. He does have a solid voice though, but still.

At least he's not promoting foreigners all the time. I've seen Polt vs. someone games and that was awful. All the time praise for the foreigner with "and Polt is good too". It was annoyin as hell. Do the yreally need to do this at foreigner only tournament?

Valdes has a great voice, knows how to speak and offers a balanced point of view, like you mentioned. he also specifically talked about how he had watched a lot of VODs of the foreigners in this tournament to get an idea of their playstyle and where they're at, while everyone else seems to just kinda be winging it. this is already a lot more than you get from most sc2 casters, regardless of his not-stellar game knowledge (but i think there are worse/more obvious offenders here as well). the fact he doesn't get super hype doesn't bother me as i don't really like the shouting anyway.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24236 Posts
March 05 2016 14:09 GMT
#942
We need a series that goes to the decider match, we haven't been treated one since the ro8
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 05 2016 14:09 GMT
#943
On March 05 2016 23:06 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:05 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:02 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:59 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:57 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:55 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:54 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:54 DinosaurPoop wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:52 Makro wrote:
so godchio not even took one map from polt ?

polt vs snute is gonna be an amazing final,; GG snute


this alarms me a lot, Polt just sweeping Nerchio and FireCake ez, I'm really worried for Snute's chances

Snute plays way more defensive than the other two though.

Considering how Polt beat Nerchio and FireCake... I think Snute has more of a chance than you might think. Polt's still the favorite, though. He's a monster.

Polt's gonna 4-1, then dedicate his win to the TL PR.

I mean. PR was pretty accurate. #3 went out to #18 and #4 went out to #9, but look at IEM Toronto- #4 went out to #13 and #3 went out to #16, but nobody memed it :c

At least at Toronto the finals ended up being 1 vs 2. Also I don't remember the TL PR getting called out on stream all the time.

Sure, but it was also a pretty easy finals to guess. Who would've predicted Snute making the finals this time?

I predicted Polt vs Snute finals, though couldn't post it because my computer died 3 days ago. (not joking)


Yeah right. I did exactly the same, but I wrote it down on a piece of cloth that I hid in a tomb somewhere in Jerusalem roughly 2000 years ago. But when you tell that to the kids, no one believes you.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 05 2016 14:09 GMT
#944
On March 05 2016 23:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:07 DinosaurPoop wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:04 Schelim wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:03 DinosaurPoop wrote:
Polt, ByuN, and Maru doing well in 2016, I guess it's the Prime terran spirit that lives on

except for... well you know


well I just thought about proleague and forgot about his GSL and SSL results

I think he was talking about someone who has problems with creep (though yeah Maru is not doing this great so far)

yeah that's the one
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 05 2016 14:10 GMT
#945
On March 05 2016 23:08 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This next match is worth 20000$ and a ticket to blizzcon. Crazy shit


A high stakes match for sure
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Tee1990
Profile Joined December 2015
20 Posts
March 05 2016 14:10 GMT
#946
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2016 14:10 GMT
#947
On March 05 2016 23:02 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:01 Diabolique wrote:
Polt vs. Snute is the dream final of this tournament. Both are great players, both deserve it. Anyone of them really deserves to go to BlizzCon. And I do not mean to be stomped by the real Koreans. Both cpt. America and Snute will be able to show good games against Koreans, cpt. America can even win against any top player. And I am sure, this will be a very entertaining series, finally no ZvZ ...


Who are you and what have you done to Diabolique?

:-P
That does not change my mind about the welfare system :-) But I believe, Polt belongs to BlizzCon and if one single foreigner belongs there, it is Snute, even in the normal system.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18524 Posts
March 05 2016 14:11 GMT
#948
On March 05 2016 23:08 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This next match is worth 20000$ and a ticket to blizzcon. Crazy shit


for Snute it is even a dream come true
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 05 2016 14:11 GMT
#949
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?

It's in their blood.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 14:11 GMT
#950
On March 05 2016 23:10 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:02 opisska wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:01 Diabolique wrote:
Polt vs. Snute is the dream final of this tournament. Both are great players, both deserve it. Anyone of them really deserves to go to BlizzCon. And I do not mean to be stomped by the real Koreans. Both cpt. America and Snute will be able to show good games against Koreans, cpt. America can even win against any top player. And I am sure, this will be a very entertaining series, finally no ZvZ ...


Who are you and what have you done to Diabolique?

:-P
That does not change my mind about the welfare system :-) But I believe, Polt belongs to BlizzCon and if one single foreigner belongs there, it is Snute, even in the normal system.

I've always thought Snute is the only foreigner who could perform at Blizzcon, so the chance to see him there is really exciting. Gogo TL!
Writermaru pls
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
March 05 2016 14:12 GMT
#951
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?


Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24236 Posts
March 05 2016 14:12 GMT
#952
On March 05 2016 23:11 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:10 Diabolique wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:02 opisska wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:01 Diabolique wrote:
Polt vs. Snute is the dream final of this tournament. Both are great players, both deserve it. Anyone of them really deserves to go to BlizzCon. And I do not mean to be stomped by the real Koreans. Both cpt. America and Snute will be able to show good games against Koreans, cpt. America can even win against any top player. And I am sure, this will be a very entertaining series, finally no ZvZ ...


Who are you and what have you done to Diabolique?

:-P
That does not change my mind about the welfare system :-) But I believe, Polt belongs to BlizzCon and if one single foreigner belongs there, it is Snute, even in the normal system.

I've always thought Snute is the only foreigner who could perform at Blizzcon, so the chance to see him there is really exciting. Gogo TL!

even if he doesn't win his chances to be in the top 5 except champions will be quite high with that performance right ?
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 05 2016 14:13 GMT
#953
The winner get 3000 WCS points and a ticket to the global playoff. What are the points good for in the end, the ticket to the playoff is already secured?? Seeding in other tourneys except the global final?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
March 05 2016 14:13 GMT
#954
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?


Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 14:16:42
March 05 2016 14:13 GMT
#955
Valdes has a great voice, knows how to speak and offers a balanced point of view, like you mentioned. he also specifically talked about how he had watched a lot of VODs of the foreigners in this tournament to get an idea of their playstyle and where they're at, while everyone else seems to just kinda be winging it.


Yeh, and this is my biggest issue with most of the talent in this tournament. There is barely any real analysis at all, it's more like "yeh that guy is always good, he always performs. or "not as good anymore, but still good".

If anyone watches the LOL analysis, you notice a gigantic difference. Everyone has studied the teams prior to the tournament. Know their weakness's, and strenghts. Talks about win conditions and the mistakes they made during games. For me that makes it a lot more exciting because you learn about the playstyles of the teams, and you get interested in seeing how it plays out during games.

Valdes did seem like he prepared the most, but it didn't feel like he could translate the preparation into "real" analysis. For instance, you know how Snute likes to play ZvT. That's great, but you need to build some type of story after that. Like what are the potential weakness's of that style? What are the opponents win condition/lose condition?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18524 Posts
March 05 2016 14:13 GMT
#956
On March 05 2016 23:13 BaneRiders wrote:
The winner get 3000 WCS points and a ticket to the global playoff. What are the points good for in the end, the ticket to the playoff is already secured?? Seeding in other tourneys except the global final?


It's the sign of Blizzard being of stupid
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 14:13 GMT
#957
On March 05 2016 23:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:11 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:10 Diabolique wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:02 opisska wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:01 Diabolique wrote:
Polt vs. Snute is the dream final of this tournament. Both are great players, both deserve it. Anyone of them really deserves to go to BlizzCon. And I do not mean to be stomped by the real Koreans. Both cpt. America and Snute will be able to show good games against Koreans, cpt. America can even win against any top player. And I am sure, this will be a very entertaining series, finally no ZvZ ...


Who are you and what have you done to Diabolique?

:-P
That does not change my mind about the welfare system :-) But I believe, Polt belongs to BlizzCon and if one single foreigner belongs there, it is Snute, even in the normal system.

I've always thought Snute is the only foreigner who could perform at Blizzcon, so the chance to see him there is really exciting. Gogo TL!

even if he doesn't win his chances to be in the top 5 except champions will be quite high with that performance right ?

Should be, yeah. Still- Snute isn't too clutch when it comes to making Blizzcon <<
He's no Dark though, jeezus.
Writermaru pls
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 05 2016 14:14 GMT
#958
maybe for once, the final may be better than the semi finals
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Boanerges
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland156 Posts
March 05 2016 14:14 GMT
#959
The match is actually worth 30'000$.. 10'000$ come for free with a BLIZZCON spot for free even if your not winning 1 game..
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2016 14:14 GMT
#960
On March 05 2016 23:09 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:06 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:05 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:02 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:59 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:57 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:55 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:54 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:54 DinosaurPoop wrote:
On March 05 2016 22:52 Makro wrote:
so godchio not even took one map from polt ?

polt vs snute is gonna be an amazing final,; GG snute


this alarms me a lot, Polt just sweeping Nerchio and FireCake ez, I'm really worried for Snute's chances

Snute plays way more defensive than the other two though.

Considering how Polt beat Nerchio and FireCake... I think Snute has more of a chance than you might think. Polt's still the favorite, though. He's a monster.

Polt's gonna 4-1, then dedicate his win to the TL PR.

I mean. PR was pretty accurate. #3 went out to #18 and #4 went out to #9, but look at IEM Toronto- #4 went out to #13 and #3 went out to #16, but nobody memed it :c

At least at Toronto the finals ended up being 1 vs 2. Also I don't remember the TL PR getting called out on stream all the time.

Sure, but it was also a pretty easy finals to guess. Who would've predicted Snute making the finals this time?

I predicted Polt vs Snute finals, though couldn't post it because my computer died 3 days ago. (not joking)


Yeah right. I did exactly the same, but I wrote it down on a piece of cloth that I hid in a tomb somewhere in Jerusalem roughly 2000 years ago. But when you tell that to the kids, no one believes you.

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