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On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote:
This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D
They happened because the accounts are revealing too much informations in history like Build order, game length etc. Not because they are in GM.
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The problem with doing a competition like this
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Would you care to elaborate a bit on this? What exactly is the problem? Or the other way round - why should build orders remain secret?
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On February 09 2016 20:02 Haukinger wrote:
Would you care to elaborate a bit on this? What exactly is the problem? Or the other way round - why should build orders remain secret?
If you see the history of your next opponent (Zerg) that he did hatch first 12 of 15 times, don't you feel "automatically" better prepared against him?
Or either way round, player1 played 20 different build orders in last 20 games in order to confuse other player by looking his history, do you think player1 played reasonable/properly? I am talking from a progamer view.
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But this applies to both of the opponents, doesn't it? Anyway, trying to surprise the opponent and hoping to not get scouted results in coinflippy, boring games, so I see no reason it should be promoted. I am talking from a viewer view.
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I actually don't understand why Bonus Pool is even in the game. We didn't have it back in wc3 or BW.
Can't wait for the ladder revamp, then this ladder competition will be even better  .
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Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that
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On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote:
Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that
Nope, they can not.
On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon.
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Ranking at Tuesday 5.30 AM CET ( Ranking at Monday 8.30 PM CET)
Top 16 1)  Minato has 1084 points (4) 2)  ShoWTimE has 1010 points (1) 3) Zanster has 960 points (3) 4) Lilbow has 920 points (2) 5)  Barcode has 918 points -- 6) DaNa has 901 points (16+) 7) Barcode has 883 points -- 8) Bly has 863 points (5) 9) PtitDrogo has 861 points (16+) 10) DIMAGA has 846 points (7) 11) Strangers has 827 points (16+) 12) Happy has 821 points (6) 13) Barcode has 819 points -- 14) Elazer has 805 points (16+) 15) NighEnD has 800 points (12) 16) souL has 792 points (15)
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Nice that they planned ahead of that loophole 
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On February 09 2016 17:46 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote:
This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D They happened because the accounts are revealing too much informations in history like Build order, game length etc. Not because they are in GM.
I don't think I implied that Grandmaster league caused barcodes. I was just saying that barcodes hurt Blizzard's attempt to make GM a fun thing to watch.
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There really shouldn't be bonus pools at least for the time of the qualifiers.
And i really doubt that grandmaster people give a crap about bonus pool in general so might as well remove it for them.
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On February 09 2016 21:54 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote:
Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that Nope, they can not. Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon.
So all barcodes that make it to top 16 by feb 12th are disqualified?
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On February 10 2016 00:53 AlgeriaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 21:54 Musicus wrote:On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote:
Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that Nope, they can not. On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon. So all barcodes that make it to top 16 by feb 12th are disqualified?
Yes. But I think any barcode is either a smurf or NA player (like Scarlett) anyway.
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Ranking at 6 PM CET
Top 17-25  DIMAGA has 928 points Revolver has 914 points  MaNa has 910 points Elazer has 906 points Majestic has 905 points Barcode (it's Scarlett according to rumor) has 883 points  Fuzer has 878 points TLO has 865 points Guru has 865 points
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Nostalgia back to the TSL-ladder....
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I came in expecting to see Happy among the top few in ladder.
Not surprised. lol
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Oh ladder locks at 12am whoops. No-one corrected LP for over a week :/
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gogo Dayshi !
seems weird that already qualified player are allowed in the qualifier  there will be drama
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EPT
