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On January 24 2016 02:45 Weavel wrote:Koreans never get pregame interview  btw so far everybody with interview has lost. i sense a certain correlation there.
anyway, is it really all fully region-locked now? won't that mean that foreigners will just get progressively worse compared to Koreans?
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On January 24 2016 02:45 Deathstar wrote: bly has zombie eyes hail
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Wait are we arguing how uThermal is almost at the level of top Korean Terrans if he fixes just one thing because he does well in WCS Welfare?
Well Major would also be one of the best players in the world (since forever) if he fixed his engagement-unit control. However, he never did so. Alot of the (foreign) pro players are unfortunately not focussing enough on improving their actual weakness's.
The reason Bunny became succesful (for a foreign terran) is that he was one of the first foreign terrans without any obvious weakness's. Solid builds, solid all-around mechanics and decision making.
But uThermal's weakness should be the easiest to adress if he actually wanted to. Whereas the weakness of Major is much more related to actual mechanics/it would take a long time to get better at. But unfortunately he seems to stubborn/not focussing enough on it.
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On January 24 2016 02:46 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 02:43 Elentos wrote:On January 24 2016 02:34 Hider wrote: Ty is the best in the world by a good margin. Eh. TY has the best multitasking out of any Terran and maybe the best positioning, but in pure control, I don't think he's ahead of Dream and Maru. And if he is, it's not a lot. Its still a mystery to me how a much slower player like supernova managed to run circles around him. SuNo was a genius. And he got him mentally, he got him real bad.
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On January 24 2016 02:46 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 02:44 Arvendilin wrote: Wait are we arguing how uThermal is almost at the level of top Korean Terrans if he fixes just one thing because he does well in WCS Welfare?
Okay O_O
I hope he gets invited to IEM Taipei that seems to be the only chance to proof yourself as a foreigner right now I don't know why you feel the need to tear down foreigners who play well. I like uThermal and I think its awesome he is doing well, but I find the idea that he is almost as good as top Koreans laughable
Its like in LoL where the west never plays Korea and year after year they think they have a chance...
And if he does well at IEM Tapei that would be pretty cool I think
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On January 24 2016 02:45 Deathstar wrote: bly has zombie eyes He didn't open 13/12 so he probably is a zombie. Not the real Bly.
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On January 24 2016 02:45 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 02:44 Arvendilin wrote: Wait are we arguing how uThermal is almost at the level of top Korean Terrans if he fixes just one thing because he does well in WCS Welfare?
Okay O_O
I hope he gets invited to IEM Taipei that seems to be the only chance to proof yourself as a foreigner right now Taipei is Korean players only, isn't it? I thought the site said that it was the 8 best Korean players. Although they did invite MC... Ohh what? I thought it was gonna be the only mixed tournament of the year?
Wow this kills a bit of the hype for it, they only get Koreans and then not even the top ones?
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Korea also has better zombies.
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Rotti contaminated everyone with his "dicey"
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On January 24 2016 02:47 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 02:46 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:On January 24 2016 02:44 Arvendilin wrote: Wait are we arguing how uThermal is almost at the level of top Korean Terrans if he fixes just one thing because he does well in WCS Welfare?
Okay O_O
I hope he gets invited to IEM Taipei that seems to be the only chance to proof yourself as a foreigner right now I don't know why you feel the need to tear down foreigners who play well. I like uThermal and I think its awesome he is doing well, but I find the idea that he is almost as good as top Koreans laughable Its like in LoL where the west never plays Korea and year after year they think they have a chance... And if he does well at IEM Tapei that would be pretty cool I think Contrary to sc2 most korean teams in LoL are bad (foreigner bad) whereas the top teams are good.
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On January 24 2016 02:40 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 02:38 Hider wrote:On January 24 2016 02:35 Grizvok wrote:On January 24 2016 02:27 Hider wrote:On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote: Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player. lol, nope Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him LOL. Okay. If you watch the actual game and you understand how absolute shitty his base management is, you would realize how incredible it is that he still is that good. But it's easier to just make ignorant sarcastic comments instead I guess. LOL WTF?!
Uthermal would get absolutely rolled by any Terran in GSL. Any player for that mattter.
I never said otherwise, assuming you mean Code S. The point is going right over your head. While I don't agree he has as good of micro as the people you think he is using lots and lots of APM on unit control while mismanaging macro. You don't just gain tons of APM randomly. You choose to spend your APM on areas where you think it is most important. Just because you think he can make his macro good while continuing to micro perfectly doesn't mean it will ever work like that. No I think you don't understand the point. Because his actual issues are not that APM intensive. They are easily adressable with a marginal shift in priorties. That shift would not hurt his unit control that much. Like he would still be the terran with by far the best unit control if he spend 5% less time managing his units. WHY? Because his speed and mouse accuracy is significantly better than any other foreign terran player. Problem is using camera hotkeys when you don't is not that easy because a) going out of your comfort zone at high level is very hard to do b) your mechanics will be messed up for a while. How would you know how fast and accurate he is compared to other terrans since they don't stream
It takes at most 100-200 games to get fully acustomed too.
How would you know how fast and accurate he is compared to other terrans since they don't stream
Other terrans? You mean foreign terrans? So far the only non top foreign terran I haven't watched a lot of on FPV is Marinelord. In terms of unit control, you can still get a decent sense of it when watching normal games. E.g.Marinelord - just yesterday- showcased subpar unit control vs Huk. Thus I have a difficult time rating him over uThermal, becasue I never seen uThermal's control be that bad.
But when it comes to mouse-accuracy, speed and base-management, you get a much better sense of it when watching
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Sooo I'm definitely not complaining because kudos to those doing those threads, but how come such an important tournament doesn't have recommended games in the OP? I don't know how hard it is to create those, and I guess you do need people to constantly post the polls, but as someone who watch most of my starcraft in VODs (or else I never get any work done), the recommended games are invaluable.
Go drogo
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Completely full, all 2 of them now :/
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On January 24 2016 02:51 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 02:47 Arvendilin wrote:On January 24 2016 02:46 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:On January 24 2016 02:44 Arvendilin wrote: Wait are we arguing how uThermal is almost at the level of top Korean Terrans if he fixes just one thing because he does well in WCS Welfare?
Okay O_O
I hope he gets invited to IEM Taipei that seems to be the only chance to proof yourself as a foreigner right now I don't know why you feel the need to tear down foreigners who play well. I like uThermal and I think its awesome he is doing well, but I find the idea that he is almost as good as top Koreans laughable Its like in LoL where the west never plays Korea and year after year they think they have a chance... And if he does well at IEM Tapei that would be pretty cool I think Contrary to sc2 most korean teams in LoL are bad (foreigner bad) whereas the top teams are good. Well yea but the top 3 teams go to worlds, so fans are deluded to think that foreign teams have a chance
The top 3 Korean teams are waay waay better than foreign teams, the 4-5 is slightly better to average and the rest like a midtier foreign team, and then sbenu
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On January 24 2016 02:49 Elentos wrote:Korea also has better zombies. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qwGjq.png)
It all make sense! Alicia was the first one, and he bite scarlett in Korea in GSTL, who then pass in Acer, quick someone call Firecake the zombie plague is spreading!
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Some classic zvz going on, I can dig.
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