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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
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On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL?
as for me I find his playstyle rather dull and uninspiring, especially vs Z. But he's a great player, the best foreigner atm by far, and I'm glad we have him and he'll help Blizzcon get hyped.
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On September 14 2015 05:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:15 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:14 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:11 shid0x wrote:On September 14 2015 05:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:01 shid0x wrote:
Apparently Millenium is sending lilbow to korea to train until blizzcon. seriously ? Source ? https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/643147259744518145?lang=frI know Aeromi is meh but he's quite close to millenium. if that's true that's excellent news. I mean he could have gotten decent training partners but training in Korea will really help him add some depth to his playstyle. Depends where he trains though. I hope he doesn't end in the Prime house^^ One of the Telecoms is probably out of the question, so I'd guess CJ (did it before with Snute and Stardust) or SBENU. or you can rant an appartment 150$ for a month that's not useful. You need to train within a proteam and with a way to speak to at least the coaching staff if you want a short stay to be useful. CJ is probably the best bet.
Yeah I agree. What everyone is crazy about is the Korean infrastructure, so it would made little sense to go to Korea and don't benefit from the infrastructure imo.
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On September 14 2015 05:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:15 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:14 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:11 shid0x wrote:On September 14 2015 05:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:01 shid0x wrote:
Apparently Millenium is sending lilbow to korea to train until blizzcon. seriously ? Source ? https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/643147259744518145?lang=frI know Aeromi is meh but he's quite close to millenium. if that's true that's excellent news. I mean he could have gotten decent training partners but training in Korea will really help him add some depth to his playstyle. Depends where he trains though. I hope he doesn't end in the Prime house^^ One of the Telecoms is probably out of the question, so I'd guess CJ (did it before with Snute and Stardust) or SBENU. or you can rant an appartment 150$ for a month that's not useful. You need to train within a proteam and with a way to speak to at least the coaching staff if you want a short stay to be useful. CJ is probably the best bet.
imo the language barrier is too strong to get info from korean team even practicing in their house
that's what i get from the long post of snute some months ago : what he got he got it by observation mostly
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On September 14 2015 04:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 04:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Lilbow has taken the torch from Stephano now, incredible. Foreign hope lives on. Not quite. Lilbow is a great foreigner, and probably the best in 2015, but there are quite a few other foreigners who have been far better than Lilbow over the years (and so would have taken the torch from Stephano long before Lilbow was even relevant). Naniwa, Scarlett, Snute, etc.
i didn't mean the torch of best foreigner, i mean he handed off the torch from Stephano being the french foreign hope to Lilbow now taking that role
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On September 14 2015 05:19 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On September 14 2015 05:15 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:14 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:11 shid0x wrote:On September 14 2015 05:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:01 shid0x wrote:
Apparently Millenium is sending lilbow to korea to train until blizzcon. seriously ? Source ? https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/643147259744518145?lang=frI know Aeromi is meh but he's quite close to millenium. if that's true that's excellent news. I mean he could have gotten decent training partners but training in Korea will really help him add some depth to his playstyle. Depends where he trains though. I hope he doesn't end in the Prime house^^ One of the Telecoms is probably out of the question, so I'd guess CJ (did it before with Snute and Stardust) or SBENU. or you can rant an appartment 150$ for a month that's not useful. You need to train within a proteam and with a way to speak to at least the coaching staff if you want a short stay to be useful. CJ is probably the best bet. long post of snute some months ago
source ?
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On September 14 2015 05:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:19 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On September 14 2015 05:15 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:14 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:11 shid0x wrote:On September 14 2015 05:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:01 shid0x wrote:
Apparently Millenium is sending lilbow to korea to train until blizzcon. seriously ? Source ? https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/643147259744518145?lang=frI know Aeromi is meh but he's quite close to millenium. if that's true that's excellent news. I mean he could have gotten decent training partners but training in Korea will really help him add some depth to his playstyle. Depends where he trains though. I hope he doesn't end in the Prime house^^ One of the Telecoms is probably out of the question, so I'd guess CJ (did it before with Snute and Stardust) or SBENU. or you can rant an appartment 150$ for a month that's not useful. You need to train within a proteam and with a way to speak to at least the coaching staff if you want a short stay to be useful. CJ is probably the best bet. long post of snute some months ago source ?
i don't remember the thread sorry..
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On September 14 2015 05:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:19 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On September 14 2015 05:15 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:14 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:11 shid0x wrote:On September 14 2015 05:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:01 shid0x wrote:
Apparently Millenium is sending lilbow to korea to train until blizzcon. seriously ? Source ? https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/643147259744518145?lang=frI know Aeromi is meh but he's quite close to millenium. if that's true that's excellent news. I mean he could have gotten decent training partners but training in Korea will really help him add some depth to his playstyle. Depends where he trains though. I hope he doesn't end in the Prime house^^ One of the Telecoms is probably out of the question, so I'd guess CJ (did it before with Snute and Stardust) or SBENU. or you can rant an appartment 150$ for a month that's not useful. You need to train within a proteam and with a way to speak to at least the coaching staff if you want a short stay to be useful. CJ is probably the best bet. long post of snute some months ago source ?
This maybe?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/436611-snute-talks-training-at-cj-entus-in-korea
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On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL?
Most people have nothing against lilbow.
He probably really is the level of a low code S player.
And he is going to blizzcon.
Some people hype him up pretending he won't get raped by whomever he plays. (he has a shot vs hydra tbh)
Some other people tell them they are full of crap.
Back and forth for 20 pages.
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On September 14 2015 05:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:19 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 sAsImre wrote:On September 14 2015 05:15 Makro wrote:On September 14 2015 05:14 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:11 shid0x wrote:On September 14 2015 05:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 14 2015 05:01 shid0x wrote:
Apparently Millenium is sending lilbow to korea to train until blizzcon. seriously ? Source ? https://twitter.com/DrAeromi/status/643147259744518145?lang=frI know Aeromi is meh but he's quite close to millenium. if that's true that's excellent news. I mean he could have gotten decent training partners but training in Korea will really help him add some depth to his playstyle. Depends where he trains though. I hope he doesn't end in the Prime house^^ One of the Telecoms is probably out of the question, so I'd guess CJ (did it before with Snute and Stardust) or SBENU. or you can rant an appartment 150$ for a month that's not useful. You need to train within a proteam and with a way to speak to at least the coaching staff if you want a short stay to be useful. CJ is probably the best bet. long post of snute some months ago source ? This maybe? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/436611-snute-talks-training-at-cj-entus-in-korea
thanks
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On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL?
No way does Lilbow make a Code S. No way. Best Foreigner I'll grant but let's not kid ourselves, that's still about #50 on the SC2 table
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On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? that's still about #50 on the SC2 table
sounds pretty awesome, I mean when you compare the training and competitive environment they get in Korea to what Lilbow is used to, being around that level rocks
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On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? No way does Lilbow make a Code S. No way. Best Foreigner I'll grant but let's not kid ourselves, that's still about #50 on the SC2 table
And? People who were probably far worse than #50 made Code S. Sleep, PenguiN, MC, etc. You make it sound like Code S is some kind of holy land where bracket luck and in-game luck and Bo wins don't exist. Well, it sounds like a wonderful place for sure, if only it existed.
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On September 14 2015 05:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? that's still about #50 on the SC2 table sounds pretty awesome, I mean when you compare the training and competitive environment they get in Korea to what Lilbow is used to, being around that level rocks
Not saying it isn't but to call him a low level Code S player is too far, he's mid Code A probably
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On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? No way does Lilbow make a Code S. No way. Best Foreigner I'll grant but let's not kid ourselves, that's still about #50 on the SC2 table
Players like Hack, aLive and Pet make Code S (no offense to those players), Lilbow could definitely do it.
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Could you just rename this thread "WCS Season 3: whiners reunited" 
LILBOW !
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On September 14 2015 05:33 Ppjack wrote:Could you just rename this thread "WCS Season 3: whiners reunited" LILBOW !
Whining about whiners?
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On September 14 2015 05:29 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? No way does Lilbow make a Code S. No way. Best Foreigner I'll grant but let's not kid ourselves, that's still about #50 on the SC2 table And? People who were probably far worse than #50 made Code S. Sleep, PenguiN, MC, etc. You make it sound like Code S is some kind of holy land where bracket luck and in-game luck and Bo wins don't exist. Well, it sounds like a wonderful place for sure, if only it existed.
Dont include MC's name in there, the hell is wrong with you?
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On September 14 2015 05:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:29 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? No way does Lilbow make a Code S. No way. Best Foreigner I'll grant but let's not kid ourselves, that's still about #50 on the SC2 table And? People who were probably far worse than #50 made Code S. Sleep, PenguiN, MC, etc. You make it sound like Code S is some kind of holy land where bracket luck and in-game luck and Bo wins don't exist. Well, it sounds like a wonderful place for sure, if only it existed. Dont include MC's name in there, the hell is wrong with you?
MC this year
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On September 14 2015 05:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 05:41 stuchiu wrote:On September 14 2015 05:29 OtherWorld wrote:On September 14 2015 05:26 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 14 2015 05:16 Hughgrant wrote:
I don't get why is there so much hate about Lilbow. It's probably the best that happened to the foreign community for a long time.
This guy has probably the level of a low Code S player but is it his fault if he's not a korean player and do not play the GSL? No way does Lilbow make a Code S. No way. Best Foreigner I'll grant but let's not kid ourselves, that's still about #50 on the SC2 table And? People who were probably far worse than #50 made Code S. Sleep, PenguiN, MC, etc. You make it sound like Code S is some kind of holy land where bracket luck and in-game luck and Bo wins don't exist. Well, it sounds like a wonderful place for sure, if only it existed. Dont include MC's name in there, the hell is wrong with you? MC this year
He played fine before he got screwed by trig and then retired.
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On September 14 2015 04:57 Ansibled wrote:
So what situations happen for lilbow to not make it, since it is 99.99%? Just curious.
breaking it down here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24856682
if anyone knows of any other situations then join me in my thread cause I'd like to know them too
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