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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2015 18:58 GMT
#601
On September 11 2015 03:56 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

If Polt hadn't randomly lost on Catellena he wouldn't even have needed the game 7 Secret Spring win

If Hydra hadn't choked after 3 sweeps in a row and then the guaranteed win on Deadwing


all in all, it came to the match point on the most ridiculous map to ever have made it to any competitive game
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 18:58:57
September 10 2015 18:58 GMT
#602
On September 11 2015 03:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:56 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

If Polt hadn't randomly lost on Catellena he wouldn't even have needed the game 7 Secret Spring win

If Hydra hadn't choked after 3 sweeps in a row and then the guaranteed win on Deadwing


all in all, it came to the match point on the most ridiculous map to ever have made it to any competitive game

Bruh were you even here in 2010/2011
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 18:58 GMT
#603
On September 11 2015 03:56 Darkhorse wrote:
Why do people all of the sudden think Hydra is good lmao

it's not that he's that good, it's that polt isnt that good anymore and Hydra is better
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
September 10 2015 18:58 GMT
#604
Roaches!

I Protoss winner, could it be?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17731 Posts
September 10 2015 18:58 GMT
#605
oh god those banelings wasted on the broodlings lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2015 18:59 GMT
#606
Nice wall of roaches
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 10 2015 18:59 GMT
#607
Holy shit violet botched that. He "broke through" a broken wall and lost all of his banelings when he could have just walked them in
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 18:59 GMT
#608
On September 11 2015 03:56 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:37 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:34 Yorkie wrote:
[quote]
^^^ are you not entertained people who cried for region lock? :D


I think it's entertaining. I love the upsets, and if there were any more Koreans playing today I probably wouldn't even be watching tbh. I planned on taking a nap for this next group but I think I'll have some faith in Elazer.

Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together

Agreed. We had some really good ro8s and onwards. i feel like watching a bo5 between Lilbow and GFB is gonna be mind numbing lol
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2015 18:59 GMT
#609
On September 11 2015 03:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:56 Darkhorse wrote:
Why do people all of the sudden think Hydra is good lmao

it's not that he's that good, it's that polt isnt that good anymore and Hydra is better

yeah to be fair no one in WCS is really Premier material right now.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 18:59 GMT
#610
On September 11 2015 03:59 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:37 hitpoint wrote:
[quote]

I think it's entertaining. I love the upsets, and if there were any more Koreans playing today I probably wouldn't even be watching tbh. I planned on taking a nap for this next group but I think I'll have some faith in Elazer.

Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together

Agreed. We had some really good ro8s and onwards. i feel like watching a bo5 between Lilbow and GFB is gonna be mind numbing lol

Won't be that bad. Lilbow should bop him probably
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#611
On September 11 2015 03:58 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:58 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

If Polt hadn't randomly lost on Catellena he wouldn't even have needed the game 7 Secret Spring win

If Hydra hadn't choked after 3 sweeps in a row and then the guaranteed win on Deadwing


all in all, it came to the match point on the most ridiculous map to ever have made it to any competitive game

Bruh were you even here in 2010/2011

2010 didn't have an establishmed meta with a big community pool of fantastic and balanced maps that some bunch of guys at Blizz decided to shit on
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#612
On September 11 2015 03:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...


He gets to the finals, only for his opponent to reveal himself to have been Has in disguise all along. Jaedong gets destroyed with the most ridiculous cheese you can't even imagine because you're not Has. The world finally achieves perfection.

Doesn't even need to be Has. JD can't win a final against a Terran either anyway

Polt or ForGG would put him in the dumpster


Has is the only one who can trump Sos though.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#613
get out violet
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#614
Please leave viOlet
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#615
Very sloppy from both sides
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#616
On September 11 2015 03:58 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:58 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

If Polt hadn't randomly lost on Catellena he wouldn't even have needed the game 7 Secret Spring win

If Hydra hadn't choked after 3 sweeps in a row and then the guaranteed win on Deadwing


all in all, it came to the match point on the most ridiculous map to ever have made it to any competitive game

Bruh were you even here in 2010/2011

Clearly not haha Secret Spring was very imbalanced but at least you could conceivably play standard and not every matchup was terrible
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#617
On September 11 2015 03:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
[quote]
Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together

Agreed. We had some really good ro8s and onwards. i feel like watching a bo5 between Lilbow and GFB is gonna be mind numbing lol

Won't be that bad. Lilbow should bop him probably

Gungfu has really good PvP, I give him a fairly big edge over Lilbow.
ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
September 10 2015 19:01 GMT
#618
this ZvZ is the worst game ive ever seen by 2 koreans =O mass lings attacking buildings while the base is open etc. and hydra almost lost anyway... lol
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 19:01 GMT
#619
On September 11 2015 04:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:59 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
[quote]

Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together

Agreed. We had some really good ro8s and onwards. i feel like watching a bo5 between Lilbow and GFB is gonna be mind numbing lol

Won't be that bad. Lilbow should bop him probably

Gungfu has really good PvP, I give him a fairly big edge over Lilbow.

You are the first Frenchman that doesn't live and die by the baguette
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2015 19:01 GMT
#620
On September 11 2015 04:00 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:58 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:58 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

If Polt hadn't randomly lost on Catellena he wouldn't even have needed the game 7 Secret Spring win

If Hydra hadn't choked after 3 sweeps in a row and then the guaranteed win on Deadwing


all in all, it came to the match point on the most ridiculous map to ever have made it to any competitive game

Bruh were you even here in 2010/2011

Clearly not haha Secret Spring was very imbalanced but at least you could conceivably play standard and not every matchup was terrible

TvP was terrible, ZvT was terrible, PvZ was terrible, ZvZ was semi-terrible. Can't speak about other mirrors.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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