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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 18:53 GMT
#581
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 18:54 GMT
#582
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...


I want to believe too
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 18:54 GMT
#583
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...

I'd be ok with it
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 10 2015 18:54 GMT
#584
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:37 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:31 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:30 Boucot wrote:
[quote]
However the other players must be happy. Zanster, MaNa, Petraeus, GFB in the final bracket. That's... unexpected.

region lock finally working, we got a ro8 nobody wants to watch

^^^ are you not entertained people who cried for region lock? :D


I think it's entertaining. I love the upsets, and if there were any more Koreans playing today I probably wouldn't even be watching tbh. I planned on taking a nap for this next group but I think I'll have some faith in Elazer.

Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#585
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#586
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...

he honestly should the way is pretty clear for him if he gets his shit together finally
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#587
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

We shall see
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#588
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...


I doubt he even gets out of his group, let alone wins
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
September 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#589
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:37 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:31 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
region lock finally working, we got a ro8 nobody wants to watch

^^^ are you not entertained people who cried for region lock? :D


I think it's entertaining. I love the upsets, and if there were any more Koreans playing today I probably wouldn't even be watching tbh. I planned on taking a nap for this next group but I think I'll have some faith in Elazer.

Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.


Agreed.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#590
On September 11 2015 03:54 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...

I'd be ok with it

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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#591
Why do people all of the sudden think Hydra is good lmao
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#592
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

If Polt hadn't randomly lost on Catellena he wouldn't even have needed the game 7 Secret Spring win
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#593
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:37 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:31 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
region lock finally working, we got a ro8 nobody wants to watch

^^^ are you not entertained people who cried for region lock? :D


I think it's entertaining. I love the upsets, and if there were any more Koreans playing today I probably wouldn't even be watching tbh. I planned on taking a nap for this next group but I think I'll have some faith in Elazer.

Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.


The skill level in NA doesn't justify having an NA only premier tournament.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#594
On September 11 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 TheAnarchy wrote:
No way Polt loses this year.

He'll have a fairly doable ro8, but I doubt he can beat Hydra. I don't know about Lilbow, after seeing the ForGG games I think Polt could beat him but that's a big question mark.

Eh Hydra is inconsistent as fuck though. Right now people think he's good but give it a few weeks

Hydra would shit on Polt right now

Hydra would shit on Polt in any enviroment that doesn't have Secret Spring in the map pool

hahahahahaha what a stupid map
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#595
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...


He gets to the finals, only for his opponent to reveal himself to have been Has in disguise all along. Jaedong gets destroyed with the most ridiculous cheese you can't even imagine because you're not Has. The world finally achieves perfection.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#596
On September 11 2015 03:56 Darkhorse wrote:
Why do people all of the sudden think Hydra is good lmao

he isn't good, he was a mid tier Korean back on CJ



which is still about twice as good as anyone else in WCS, last 2 seasons was basically just waiting for Hydra games for me
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
September 10 2015 18:56 GMT
#597
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:41 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:39 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:37 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:31 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
region lock finally working, we got a ro8 nobody wants to watch

^^^ are you not entertained people who cried for region lock? :D


I think it's entertaining. I love the upsets, and if there were any more Koreans playing today I probably wouldn't even be watching tbh. I planned on taking a nap for this next group but I think I'll have some faith in Elazer.

Yup you're the people who helped make it this way. The people who are far more interested what the players look like out of game than they're play in game. Koreans just so boring amirite?


Great success, then. I'm interested in seeing the foreign scene do well, not seeing which 6-7 lesser Koreans can beat eachother 3 times a year outside of Korea. It's not about race, like you're trying to make it sound. I do keep up with proleague and GSL. But the same few Koreans farming a foreign tournament isn't fun to watch.

If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#598
On September 11 2015 03:56 Darkhorse wrote:
Why do people all of the sudden think Hydra is good lmao

4 finals since the beginning of the year sound like good results to me.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#599
On September 11 2015 03:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 03:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JD wins this season of wcs, everybody knows this...


He gets to the finals, only for his opponent to reveal himself to have been Has in disguise all along. Jaedong gets destroyed with the most ridiculous cheese you can't even imagine because you're not Has. The world finally achieves perfection.

Doesn't even need to be Has. JD can't win a final against a Terran either anyway

Polt or ForGG would put him in the dumpster
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 18:58 GMT
#600
Ahahaha after that abysmal performance vs Polt is Violet gonna cheese out Hydra
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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