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dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
September 04 2015 10:34 GMT
#141
can't wait for sOs vs Maru.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 04 2015 10:34 GMT
#142
Yup, Classic is deader than dead
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 04 2015 10:35 GMT
#143
Jesus. Gonna be sooo many phoenix.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 04 2015 10:35 GMT
#144
3 Stargate WTF
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 04 2015 10:35 GMT
#145
sOs being sOs
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 04 2015 10:36 GMT
#146
so many phoenixes....
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
September 04 2015 10:36 GMT
#147
On September 04 2015 19:29 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 19:27 MorDka wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:25 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:20 MorDka wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:19 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:18 MorDka wrote:
why would you even play macro vs terran... I think the only way to beat top terrans is by alling

No way. Protoss late game is favoured if you know how to defend all of your bases and keep yourself from falling to multi-pronged attacks. Both styles can work vs Terran.

you can't defend them...

Certainly you can. Coda is good map for turtling Protoss. No dead air space on the edges, you don't need that much observers. If you delay your upgrades a little and save chrono for observers, you are fine and you see every drop miles ahead. Also herO opened with a SG, he could go into phoenix colossi.

Yes coda is kinda good but its not enough, one double drop unspotted reks you anyway, hero defend perfectly until that double drop came unspotted...

An unscouted drop can kill you? That sounds like TvP. Or TvT. Or TvZ
Wow you actually describe any situation where an unscouted attack can do huge damage

Well its to hard to scout for protoss. Terrans have scans they can spot with cheap marines and they have their speedvac so they can react to a drop coming. Zerg has creep spread, overlords, overseeers, zerglings to spot and mutas to kill the drops. Protoss can only really use the observers where you neeed to build cloususes from the same building and Phonixes kill medivacs so slowly that hero makes voidrays instead of them and that didnt even work as you could see, Only mass phoenix styles can deal with the drops okayish but i don't see any koreans do these and make them work...
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 04 2015 10:36 GMT
#148
These two played that cool air vs air game on maze didn't they?

Hopefully it turns into one like that :D
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
September 04 2015 10:37 GMT
#149
I always 2-base all in vs mass phoenix. With templar archons and stuff. Seems VERY valid to me.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 10:37:58
September 04 2015 10:37 GMT
#150
Some good damage dealt by Classic but not worth it in the end
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 04 2015 10:37 GMT
#151
On September 04 2015 19:36 Phredxor wrote:
These two played that cool air vs air game on maze didn't they?

Hopefully it turns into one like that :D


Yeah.

Looks like sOs is going to win again.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 04 2015 10:38 GMT
#152
I don't even know what i am watching anymore 0.O
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
September 04 2015 10:38 GMT
#153
Stalkers are plainly bad against Phoenixes, deal with it, Classic
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13325 Posts
September 04 2015 10:38 GMT
#154
I couldn't see anything during that fight lol
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 04 2015 10:38 GMT
#155
On September 04 2015 19:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 19:36 Phredxor wrote:
These two played that cool air vs air game on maze didn't they?

Hopefully it turns into one like that :D


Yeah.

Looks like sOs is going to win again.


Yup! Not as exciting this time
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 04 2015 10:38 GMT
#156
Game over for sure
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 04 2015 10:39 GMT
#157
On September 04 2015 19:36 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 19:29 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:27 MorDka wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:25 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:20 MorDka wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:19 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:18 MorDka wrote:
why would you even play macro vs terran... I think the only way to beat top terrans is by alling

No way. Protoss late game is favoured if you know how to defend all of your bases and keep yourself from falling to multi-pronged attacks. Both styles can work vs Terran.

you can't defend them...

Certainly you can. Coda is good map for turtling Protoss. No dead air space on the edges, you don't need that much observers. If you delay your upgrades a little and save chrono for observers, you are fine and you see every drop miles ahead. Also herO opened with a SG, he could go into phoenix colossi.

Yes coda is kinda good but its not enough, one double drop unspotted reks you anyway, hero defend perfectly until that double drop came unspotted...

An unscouted drop can kill you? That sounds like TvP. Or TvT. Or TvZ
Wow you actually describe any situation where an unscouted attack can do huge damage

Well its to hard to scout for protoss. Terrans have scans they can spot with cheap marines and they have their speedvac so they can react to a drop coming. Zerg has creep spread, overlords, overseeers, zerglings to spot and mutas to kill the drops. Protoss can only really use the observers where you neeed to build cloususes from the same building and Phonixes kill medivacs so slowly that hero makes voidrays instead of them and that didnt even work as you could see, Only mass phoenix styles can deal with the drops okayish but i don't see any koreans do these and make them work...


Hallucinations and observers are good, as are Blink pokes. Tons of Protoss players play styles designed to repel drops in PvT and these usually involve splitting your army in two between nat and third. Protoss wins a lot in late game and are often able to defend, just as Terran is often able to win through drops and whatnot. It's not a problem at all.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 04 2015 10:39 GMT
#158
On September 04 2015 19:36 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 19:29 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:27 MorDka wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:25 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:20 MorDka wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:19 NeThZOR wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:18 MorDka wrote:
why would you even play macro vs terran... I think the only way to beat top terrans is by alling

No way. Protoss late game is favoured if you know how to defend all of your bases and keep yourself from falling to multi-pronged attacks. Both styles can work vs Terran.

you can't defend them...

Certainly you can. Coda is good map for turtling Protoss. No dead air space on the edges, you don't need that much observers. If you delay your upgrades a little and save chrono for observers, you are fine and you see every drop miles ahead. Also herO opened with a SG, he could go into phoenix colossi.

Yes coda is kinda good but its not enough, one double drop unspotted reks you anyway, hero defend perfectly until that double drop came unspotted...

An unscouted drop can kill you? That sounds like TvP. Or TvT. Or TvZ
Wow you actually describe any situation where an unscouted attack can do huge damage

Well its to hard to scout for protoss. Terrans have scans they can spot with cheap marines and they have their speedvac so they can react to a drop coming. Zerg has creep spread, overlords, overseeers, zerglings to spot and mutas to kill the drops. Protoss can only really use the observers where you neeed to build cloususes from the same building and Phonixes kill medivacs so slowly that hero makes voidrays instead of them and that didnt even work as you could see, Only mass phoenix styles can deal with the drops okayish but i don't see any koreans do these and make them work...

I dont really know what to say when you are seriously claiming late TvP is T favoured or that drops are imba. Yes they are annoying but without drops the game is unplaybale because P turtles till storm/colossi and 20+ warpgates and gets a 60+% winrate. Go watch some recent Zest PvT games. Get an observer ring and split your army right and every drop gets shut down hard
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13325 Posts
September 04 2015 10:39 GMT
#159
Poll: Recommend Classic vs sOs Game 1 ?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
17%

★★★ - Good game (8)
 
67%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
17%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Classic vs sOs Game 1 ?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
September 04 2015 10:40 GMT
#160
sOs becoming relevant across all 3 matchups is a scary idea before blizzcon..
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
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