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[S2SL] Ro8 Day 1 - Season 3 2015 - Page 66
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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: I still have trouble comprehending that this is the same innovation that in 2013 4M'd his way to the top of the world. Talk about a paradigm shift. INnoVation never was in any way innovative, imo. He just always did what was considered to be the best at any given time in any given matchup. Back in 2013 it was 4M, nowadays it's Mech. I'm not at all surprised, tbh. Other players figure out what's the best, INnoVation does the same, but better. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:20 Swisslink wrote: INnoVation never was in any way innovative, imo. He just always did what was considered to be the best at any given time in any given matchup. Back in 2013 it was 4M, nowadays it's Mech. I'm not at all surprised, tbh. Other players figure out what's the best, INnoVation does the same, but better. Umm no. INno basically pioneered this new mech style. He was the first to really use it at top korean level. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:20 Swisslink wrote: INnoVation never was in any way innovative, imo. He just always did what was considered to be the best at any given time in any given matchup. Back in 2013 it was 4M, nowadays it's Mech. I'm not at all surprised, tbh. Other players figure out what's the best, INnoVation does the same, but better. I was under the imppression that he pretty much lead the way in hellbat dropping back in the time. | ||
munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:23 Charoisaur wrote: Umm no. INno basically pioneered this new mech style. He was the first to really use it at top korean level. GuMiho's been doing it for nearly a year now | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:23 opisska wrote: I was under the imppression that he pretty much lead the way in hellbat dropping back in the time. everyone hellbat dropped in that time. Innovation was just the guy with the most exposure and mechanically best play. This is why many builds were seen more often in his play. Because he was seen more often. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
I wanted Inno to win. That way, we would've avoided another TvZ... | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:23 opisska wrote: I was under the imppression that he pretty much lead the way in hellbat dropping back in the time. Not sure it needed much innovation to realise that 4-HB in a medivac that can also heal them is quite good  | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:28 RKC wrote: Perhaps Innovation should not have pioneered a raven-heavy style in the last deciding match, when BCs with the usual upgrades would've sealed the deal. I wanted Inno to win. That way, we would've avoided another TvZ... We are at that point already? wow | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote: GuMiho's been doing it for nearly a year now I mean this style where you tech to BCs with a fast fourth and then slowly try to split the map with mass turrets and pfs. When I watched Gumiho he played a more timing based mech style. I could be wrong though, haven't seen that many games of him. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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RKC
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
#mannerscans | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:31 stuchiu wrote: This style of mech isnt new, it was used back during SH too. but there you teched to ravens instead of bcs. | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
To be honest, I'm not sick from watching TvZ, but watching people bitching about TvZ in the streams and LRs  | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:35 Charoisaur wrote: but there you teched to ravens instead of bcs. Both have been used. E.g. soO vs Yoda in proleague. The reason for BCs nowadays instead of ravens is that they are safer vs the ultralisk/hydralisk type of armies than the straight to raven transition. But the general idea is that you get BC/Viking and then still go into ravens. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
So can we just agree that Inno "popularised" this new turtle mech style against Zerg? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:45 RKC wrote: Well, of course, it's one thing to pioneer a style on the televised game for the very first time, but quite another to pioneer it in an effective way that starts a new meta. Perhaps for the latter, "popularise" is a better word. Much like how Bisu "popularised" DT-sair when he beat Savior in BW. So can we just agree that Inno "popularised" this new turtle mech style against Zerg? this sounds ok | ||
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