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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
August 20 2015 13:58 GMT
#1261
On August 20 2015 22:57 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:56 GumBa wrote:
This is the 2nd bo5 where INno threw game 5 vs ByuL this year btw. Little fun fact.

Please, g5 of the last Bo5 on EL wasn't a throw but pure tactical genius by ByuL. Taking a bait and losing isn't throwing, it's losing to your opponent.


0 armor in a 50 min game into losing bcs to hydras is clearly a throw
maru G5L pls
in_flvxx
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia226 Posts
August 20 2015 13:58 GMT
#1262
pls no rain-byul final.
Zest | herO || Life | Dark || Bomber | Maru | Dream | TY | Flash
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#1263
On August 20 2015 22:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:55 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:54 GumBa wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 GumBa wrote:
I hope people realise INno gifted that game incredibly fucking hard lmao. Typical shit.

he did, wonder what went wrong there

At this point I expect it.

Rain does this as well, it's weird.

Dunno what's weird about some people cracking under pressure and some other people not cracking under pressure. It's how the world goes^^

Seemed more arrogance and or laziness in that game.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
August 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#1264
On August 20 2015 22:56 Blargh wrote:
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On August 20 2015 22:54 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 Blargh wrote:
Yeah no ravens, no armor upgrade. I didn't see Innovation winning that game after the big losses. He had a really solid lead for much of that game, but he really never did anything with it. He also could have won pretty easily with +3 armor and keeping at least a COUPLE ravens.

But this is the Innovation way.

He had 19 ravens. The he lost 17 of them to fg.

Exactly. Obviously that was the biggest turning point for the game, but I still think Innovation would have been fine if he worked towards 3 armor and remade 4-5 ravens (or more?)

PDD and seeker are really strong.


I don't even think he needed Ravens. 3 armor would have been enough, imo. I mean, he lost a lot throughout the game because the Hydras did just way more dmg than they're supposed to do against mech, simply because the mech army was insanely fragile due to the missing armor upgrades. And the last few games showed that Ravens aren't really necessary in such a comp.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#1265
On August 20 2015 22:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:55 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:54 GumBa wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 GumBa wrote:
I hope people realise INno gifted that game incredibly fucking hard lmao. Typical shit.

he did, wonder what went wrong there

At this point I expect it.

Rain does this as well, it's weird.

Dunno what's weird about some people cracking under pressure and some other people not cracking under pressure. It's how the world goes^^

I guess, but these two have weird timings for their "crackings". Out of the blue and not necessarily when pressure is highest.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#1266
On August 20 2015 22:58 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:57 OtherWorld wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:56 GumBa wrote:
This is the 2nd bo5 where INno threw game 5 vs ByuL this year btw. Little fun fact.

Please, g5 of the last Bo5 on EL wasn't a throw but pure tactical genius by ByuL. Taking a bait and losing isn't throwing, it's losing to your opponent.


0 armor in a 50 min game into losing bcs to hydras is clearly a throw

Yeah because that's clearly the game I'm talking about, please reread -.-"
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 13:59:50
August 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#1267
End of INno's 12-win TvZ streak too
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#1268
On August 20 2015 22:58 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:57 OtherWorld wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:56 GumBa wrote:
This is the 2nd bo5 where INno threw game 5 vs ByuL this year btw. Little fun fact.

Please, g5 of the last Bo5 on EL wasn't a throw but pure tactical genius by ByuL. Taking a bait and losing isn't throwing, it's losing to your opponent.


0 armor in a 50 min game into losing bcs to hydras is clearly a throw

He is talking about where INno held the hatch spine backdoor rush. Then moved out with his tanks lol.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 20 2015 14:00 GMT
#1269
I don't understand the last game at all. It seemed completely won for Innovation, it almost felt like he stopped trying hard and just knew he will kill him anyway ... and then it went to complete shit. The most surprising thing was that ByuL did not really change his style that much, he did basically what failed the previous game.

Guess we can say that ultra-hydra-corruptor is a good counter to 0-3 mech ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 20 2015 14:00 GMT
#1270
On August 20 2015 22:59 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:56 OtherWorld wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:55 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:54 GumBa wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 GumBa wrote:
I hope people realise INno gifted that game incredibly fucking hard lmao. Typical shit.

he did, wonder what went wrong there

At this point I expect it.

Rain does this as well, it's weird.

Dunno what's weird about some people cracking under pressure and some other people not cracking under pressure. It's how the world goes^^

Seemed more arrogance and or laziness in that game.

Yes, that's true too. But I think knowing he had lost to ByuL previously has something to do with it too.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 20 2015 14:00 GMT
#1271
Everyone should move to Flash's stream now to see more mech!

http://www.twitch.tv/ktflash92
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1272
Innovation is going to be really sad when somebody tells him he was on 3-0 upgrades. Really happy for Byul to win against cancermech.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1273
On August 20 2015 23:00 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 22:59 GumBa wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:56 OtherWorld wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:55 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:54 GumBa wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 22:53 GumBa wrote:
I hope people realise INno gifted that game incredibly fucking hard lmao. Typical shit.

he did, wonder what went wrong there

At this point I expect it.

Rain does this as well, it's weird.

Dunno what's weird about some people cracking under pressure and some other people not cracking under pressure. It's how the world goes^^

Seemed more arrogance and or laziness in that game.

Yes, that's true too. But I think knowing he had lost to ByuL previously has something to do with it too.

I didnt see it at all. It was pure "I'm so far ahead I dont care" into throwing imo-
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1274
On August 20 2015 22:59 Inflicted wrote:
End of INno's 12-win TvZ streak too

SKT slumping
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 14:01:44
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1275
oops
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1276
Honestly TvZ mech is extremely boring. I know a lot of people have said this already... but I haven't yet .

I think given the trends (mech OP) and TY's preparation he will take Byul out. If Byul gets him to a match point Byul probably takes it though since TY will do some proxy build and fail (imo.)

Overall I think TY gets to the finals and would like to see some crazy bio drop or map abuse at least once or twice in the series. GL TY!
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1277
I'm out of word
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 20 2015 14:02 GMT
#1278
So is that what the TvZ meta has become recently?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 20 2015 14:02 GMT
#1279
On August 20 2015 23:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So is that what the TvZ meta has become recently?

Pretty much, yes
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 14:04:17
August 20 2015 14:03 GMT
#1280
On August 20 2015 23:01 RaFox17 wrote:
Innovation is going to be really sad when somebody tells him he was on 3-0 upgrades. Really happy for Byul to win against cancermech.


He definitely realized that during the last fight. It was really obvious there. Dunno when he realized it though. I think he could have won the game quite far into the game if he started the upgrades at any time. So I guess he must have found out quite late that there were no upgrades.
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