• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:48
CEST 02:48
KST 09:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes166BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Big Programming Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1869 users

[SPL] SKT vs KT Round 3 2015 - Page 22

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 39 Next All
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18455 Posts
June 02 2015 11:13 GMT
#421
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 11:14 GMT
#422
On June 02 2015 20:13 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:07 royalroadweed wrote:
I have no idea what wolf means when he describes something as a "technical allin".


It means it's a complex all in that requires different pieces, upgrades, timings and good macro to pull it off.

Compared to like a DT rush, which just relies on getting a dark shrine ASAP and hoping you get a proxy pylon down.

A DT rush has to be hidden, which is way more technical to execute than any of these things you mentioned for a high level player.
Well, anyway, Wolf probably doesn't mean anything in particular when he says that.


if you say so
Zerg for Life
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
June 02 2015 11:14 GMT
#423
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?

I don't think they will because Dream has SSL this week. If they did send out Dream, uh, Flash, TY, Life on a good day.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:15:25
June 02 2015 11:15 GMT
#424
On June 02 2015 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:13 ZenithM wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:07 royalroadweed wrote:
I have no idea what wolf means when he describes something as a "technical allin".


It means it's a complex all in that requires different pieces, upgrades, timings and good macro to pull it off.

Compared to like a DT rush, which just relies on getting a dark shrine ASAP and hoping you get a proxy pylon down.

A DT rush has to be hidden, which is way more technical to execute than any of these things you mentioned for a high level player.
Well, anyway, Wolf probably doesn't mean anything in particular when he says that.


if you say so


^Bias vs bias is fun

Anyways what's the best way to beat this gold base first build
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:16:08
June 02 2015 11:15 GMT
#425
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?


I just hope they go with Life so they play again
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#426
On June 02 2015 20:15 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:13 ZenithM wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:07 royalroadweed wrote:
I have no idea what wolf means when he describes something as a "technical allin".


It means it's a complex all in that requires different pieces, upgrades, timings and good macro to pull it off.

Compared to like a DT rush, which just relies on getting a dark shrine ASAP and hoping you get a proxy pylon down.

A DT rush has to be hidden, which is way more technical to execute than any of these things you mentioned for a high level player.
Well, anyway, Wolf probably doesn't mean anything in particular when he says that.


if you say so


^Bias vs bias is fun

Anyways what's the best way to beat this gold base first build

Classic pulled out 2 Oracles against ByuL doing this on the same map back in SSL quarterfinals and wrecked him
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#427
On June 02 2015 20:12 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(Z)Dark vs. (P)Stats
Game 4: 2-1
Map: Vaani Research Station

0:00
Dark spawns in the top center
Stats spawns in the bottom center

1:00
quick drone scout from Dark

2:00
hatch first at the gold for Dark
drone scout attempting to delay the nexus of Stats
Nexus first for Stats about 75 minerals late
gateway for Stats

3:00
3 hatch before pool for Dark, the 3rd hatch is the low ground base outside the main
double gas for Stats
pool for Dark
Stats scouts that the back base isn't taken by Dark

4:00
cybernetics core for Stats
zealot for Stats
Stats scouts the gold base
Stargate for Stats

5:00
double gas for Dark
oracle started for Stats
2nd queen started at the gold of Dark
overlord scouts the stargate
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#428
On June 02 2015 20:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?

I don't think they will because Dream has SSL this week. If they did send out Dream, uh, Flash, TY, Life on a good day.


Stats seems like counter to everything atm
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
June 02 2015 11:19 GMT
#429
On June 02 2015 20:16 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:14 Elentos wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?

I don't think they will because Dream has SSL this week. If they did send out Dream, uh, Flash, TY, Life on a good day.


Stats seems like counter to everything atm

Stats didn't stand a chance against Dream in KeSPA Cup unfortunately.

Btw if you have 2 oracles isn't it a decent idea to commit to killing a queen or two?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:19 GMT
#430
On June 02 2015 20:16 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:12 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(Z)Dark vs. (P)Stats
Game 4: 2-1
Map: Vaani Research Station

0:00
Dark spawns in the top center
Stats spawns in the bottom center

1:00
quick drone scout from Dark

2:00
hatch first at the gold for Dark
drone scout attempting to delay the nexus of Stats
Nexus first for Stats about 75 minerals late
gateway for Stats

3:00
3 hatch before pool for Dark, the 3rd hatch is the low ground base outside the main
double gas for Stats
pool for Dark
Stats scouts that the back base isn't taken by Dark

4:00
cybernetics core for Stats
zealot for Stats
Stats scouts the gold base
Stargate for Stats

5:00
double gas for Dark
oracle started for Stats
2nd queen started at the gold of Dark
overlord scouts the stargate

6:00
spores started for Dark at every base
forge for stats
2nd oracle for Stats
Lair for Dark
oracle at the gold base kills 1 drone before leaving
ling speed for Dark

7:00 54 vs 57
MSC for Stats
2 more gates for Stats
+1 attack for Stats
Roach warren for Dark
evo for Dark
3rd base for Stats
double oracles harassing at the 3rd of Dark kill 2 drones

8:00 72 vs 63
twilight council for Stats
Hydralisk den for Dark
oracles harassing in the main killing 5 more drones
+1 range attack for Dark
3 more gates for Stats
Dark taking more gas
4th base for Dark

9:00 87 vs 76
1 oracle in the main of Dark is killed
14 drones have been killed by the oracles so far
+2 attack for Stats
blink research for Stats
Dark making a bunch of lings and sending them across the map
8 sentries out for Stats to defend and push the lings back
hydras started for Dark
hydra range for Dark
roach speed for Dark

10:00 95 vs 84
overlord drops started for Dark
4 more gates for Stats
oracle flying around scouting seeing the first hydras coming out
hydra speed for Dark
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:21:25
June 02 2015 11:20 GMT
#431
Come back to ventral sacs being researched? :O

wow

edit: nvm. toss'd
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#432
oh wow 2 adverts in a row as the battle starts.
Zerg for Life
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18455 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#433
lol Dark literally played 10x better vs herO in the final than he did today
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#434
Wow, the rektoning is real.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#435
rrrrrekt
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28484 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#436
dreamdreamdreamdreamdream
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#437
fuck
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#438
Stats is just unstoppable.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#439
I feel like i have seen this before. Ace match time!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#440
On June 02 2015 20:19 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:16 Shellshock wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:12 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(Z)Dark vs. (P)Stats
Game 4: 2-1
Map: Vaani Research Station

0:00
Dark spawns in the top center
Stats spawns in the bottom center

1:00
quick drone scout from Dark

2:00
hatch first at the gold for Dark
drone scout attempting to delay the nexus of Stats
Nexus first for Stats about 75 minerals late
gateway for Stats

3:00
3 hatch before pool for Dark, the 3rd hatch is the low ground base outside the main
double gas for Stats
pool for Dark
Stats scouts that the back base isn't taken by Dark

4:00
cybernetics core for Stats
zealot for Stats
Stats scouts the gold base
Stargate for Stats

5:00
double gas for Dark
oracle started for Stats
2nd queen started at the gold of Dark
overlord scouts the stargate

6:00
spores started for Dark at every base
forge for stats
2nd oracle for Stats
Lair for Dark
oracle at the gold base kills 1 drone before leaving
ling speed for Dark

7:00 54 vs 57
MSC for Stats
2 more gates for Stats
+1 attack for Stats
Roach warren for Dark
evo for Dark
3rd base for Stats
double oracles harassing at the 3rd of Dark kill 2 drones

8:00 72 vs 63
twilight council for Stats
Hydralisk den for Dark
oracles harassing in the main killing 5 more drones
+1 range attack for Dark
3 more gates for Stats
Dark taking more gas
4th base for Dark

9:00 87 vs 76
1 oracle in the main of Dark is killed
14 drones have been killed by the oracles so far
+2 attack for Stats
blink research for Stats
Dark making a bunch of lings and sending them across the map
8 sentries out for Stats to defend and push the lings back
hydras started for Dark
hydra range for Dark
roach speed for Dark

10:00 95 vs 84
overlord drops started for Dark
4 more gates for Stats
oracle flying around scouting seeing the first hydras coming out
hydra speed for Dark

11:00 142 vs 120
revelation on the hydra ball before being killed
+2 range attack for Dark
pylon going up in the middle of the map as Stats moves out with his gateway army
spines started for Dark after scouting

12:00 159 vs 137
Stats moves onto creep towards the 3rd of Dark
roach hydra army engages
Dark pulls the drones
forcefields going down

13:00 114 vs 121
Stats is able to break through Dark's defense easily
forcefield on the main ramp
Dark ggs!
Stats ties it up 2-2!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
davetesta41
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 260
SpeCial 116
Nathanias 111
RuFF_SC2 12
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 43
Dota 2
monkeys_forever302
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear5
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K549
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox485
AZ_Axe66
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor123
Other Games
summit1g8895
FrodaN4098
Grubby3905
shahzam874
JimRising 525
ToD256
XaKoH 132
Trikslyr66
ViBE30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick563
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH124
• poizon28 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5287
Other Games
• Scarra982
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
7h 12m
RSL Revival
9h 12m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
10h 12m
Online Event
15h 12m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.