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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
June 02 2015 11:13 GMT
#421
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 11:14 GMT
#422
On June 02 2015 20:13 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:07 royalroadweed wrote:
I have no idea what wolf means when he describes something as a "technical allin".


It means it's a complex all in that requires different pieces, upgrades, timings and good macro to pull it off.

Compared to like a DT rush, which just relies on getting a dark shrine ASAP and hoping you get a proxy pylon down.

A DT rush has to be hidden, which is way more technical to execute than any of these things you mentioned for a high level player.
Well, anyway, Wolf probably doesn't mean anything in particular when he says that.


if you say so
Zerg for Life
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
June 02 2015 11:14 GMT
#423
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?

I don't think they will because Dream has SSL this week. If they did send out Dream, uh, Flash, TY, Life on a good day.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:15:25
June 02 2015 11:15 GMT
#424
On June 02 2015 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:13 ZenithM wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:07 royalroadweed wrote:
I have no idea what wolf means when he describes something as a "technical allin".


It means it's a complex all in that requires different pieces, upgrades, timings and good macro to pull it off.

Compared to like a DT rush, which just relies on getting a dark shrine ASAP and hoping you get a proxy pylon down.

A DT rush has to be hidden, which is way more technical to execute than any of these things you mentioned for a high level player.
Well, anyway, Wolf probably doesn't mean anything in particular when he says that.


if you say so


^Bias vs bias is fun

Anyways what's the best way to beat this gold base first build
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:16:08
June 02 2015 11:15 GMT
#425
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?


I just hope they go with Life so they play again
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#426
On June 02 2015 20:15 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:13 ZenithM wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:07 royalroadweed wrote:
I have no idea what wolf means when he describes something as a "technical allin".


It means it's a complex all in that requires different pieces, upgrades, timings and good macro to pull it off.

Compared to like a DT rush, which just relies on getting a dark shrine ASAP and hoping you get a proxy pylon down.

A DT rush has to be hidden, which is way more technical to execute than any of these things you mentioned for a high level player.
Well, anyway, Wolf probably doesn't mean anything in particular when he says that.


if you say so


^Bias vs bias is fun

Anyways what's the best way to beat this gold base first build

Classic pulled out 2 Oracles against ByuL doing this on the same map back in SSL quarterfinals and wrecked him
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#427
On June 02 2015 20:12 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(Z)Dark vs. (P)Stats
Game 4: 2-1
Map: Vaani Research Station

0:00
Dark spawns in the top center
Stats spawns in the bottom center

1:00
quick drone scout from Dark

2:00
hatch first at the gold for Dark
drone scout attempting to delay the nexus of Stats
Nexus first for Stats about 75 minerals late
gateway for Stats

3:00
3 hatch before pool for Dark, the 3rd hatch is the low ground base outside the main
double gas for Stats
pool for Dark
Stats scouts that the back base isn't taken by Dark

4:00
cybernetics core for Stats
zealot for Stats
Stats scouts the gold base
Stargate for Stats

5:00
double gas for Dark
oracle started for Stats
2nd queen started at the gold of Dark
overlord scouts the stargate
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#428
On June 02 2015 20:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?

I don't think they will because Dream has SSL this week. If they did send out Dream, uh, Flash, TY, Life on a good day.


Stats seems like counter to everything atm
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
June 02 2015 11:19 GMT
#429
On June 02 2015 20:16 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:14 Elentos wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:13 sharkie wrote:
If SKT fields Dream as ace, who does KT have to counter him with?

I don't think they will because Dream has SSL this week. If they did send out Dream, uh, Flash, TY, Life on a good day.


Stats seems like counter to everything atm

Stats didn't stand a chance against Dream in KeSPA Cup unfortunately.

Btw if you have 2 oracles isn't it a decent idea to commit to killing a queen or two?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:19 GMT
#430
On June 02 2015 20:16 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:12 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(Z)Dark vs. (P)Stats
Game 4: 2-1
Map: Vaani Research Station

0:00
Dark spawns in the top center
Stats spawns in the bottom center

1:00
quick drone scout from Dark

2:00
hatch first at the gold for Dark
drone scout attempting to delay the nexus of Stats
Nexus first for Stats about 75 minerals late
gateway for Stats

3:00
3 hatch before pool for Dark, the 3rd hatch is the low ground base outside the main
double gas for Stats
pool for Dark
Stats scouts that the back base isn't taken by Dark

4:00
cybernetics core for Stats
zealot for Stats
Stats scouts the gold base
Stargate for Stats

5:00
double gas for Dark
oracle started for Stats
2nd queen started at the gold of Dark
overlord scouts the stargate

6:00
spores started for Dark at every base
forge for stats
2nd oracle for Stats
Lair for Dark
oracle at the gold base kills 1 drone before leaving
ling speed for Dark

7:00 54 vs 57
MSC for Stats
2 more gates for Stats
+1 attack for Stats
Roach warren for Dark
evo for Dark
3rd base for Stats
double oracles harassing at the 3rd of Dark kill 2 drones

8:00 72 vs 63
twilight council for Stats
Hydralisk den for Dark
oracles harassing in the main killing 5 more drones
+1 range attack for Dark
3 more gates for Stats
Dark taking more gas
4th base for Dark

9:00 87 vs 76
1 oracle in the main of Dark is killed
14 drones have been killed by the oracles so far
+2 attack for Stats
blink research for Stats
Dark making a bunch of lings and sending them across the map
8 sentries out for Stats to defend and push the lings back
hydras started for Dark
hydra range for Dark
roach speed for Dark

10:00 95 vs 84
overlord drops started for Dark
4 more gates for Stats
oracle flying around scouting seeing the first hydras coming out
hydra speed for Dark
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:21:25
June 02 2015 11:20 GMT
#431
Come back to ventral sacs being researched? :O

wow

edit: nvm. toss'd
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#432
oh wow 2 adverts in a row as the battle starts.
Zerg for Life
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#433
lol Dark literally played 10x better vs herO in the final than he did today
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#434
Wow, the rektoning is real.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#435
rrrrrekt
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#436
dreamdreamdreamdreamdream
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#437
fuck
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#438
Stats is just unstoppable.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#439
I feel like i have seen this before. Ace match time!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#440
On June 02 2015 20:19 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:16 Shellshock wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:12 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(Z)Dark vs. (P)Stats
Game 4: 2-1
Map: Vaani Research Station

0:00
Dark spawns in the top center
Stats spawns in the bottom center

1:00
quick drone scout from Dark

2:00
hatch first at the gold for Dark
drone scout attempting to delay the nexus of Stats
Nexus first for Stats about 75 minerals late
gateway for Stats

3:00
3 hatch before pool for Dark, the 3rd hatch is the low ground base outside the main
double gas for Stats
pool for Dark
Stats scouts that the back base isn't taken by Dark

4:00
cybernetics core for Stats
zealot for Stats
Stats scouts the gold base
Stargate for Stats

5:00
double gas for Dark
oracle started for Stats
2nd queen started at the gold of Dark
overlord scouts the stargate

6:00
spores started for Dark at every base
forge for stats
2nd oracle for Stats
Lair for Dark
oracle at the gold base kills 1 drone before leaving
ling speed for Dark

7:00 54 vs 57
MSC for Stats
2 more gates for Stats
+1 attack for Stats
Roach warren for Dark
evo for Dark
3rd base for Stats
double oracles harassing at the 3rd of Dark kill 2 drones

8:00 72 vs 63
twilight council for Stats
Hydralisk den for Dark
oracles harassing in the main killing 5 more drones
+1 range attack for Dark
3 more gates for Stats
Dark taking more gas
4th base for Dark

9:00 87 vs 76
1 oracle in the main of Dark is killed
14 drones have been killed by the oracles so far
+2 attack for Stats
blink research for Stats
Dark making a bunch of lings and sending them across the map
8 sentries out for Stats to defend and push the lings back
hydras started for Dark
hydra range for Dark
roach speed for Dark

10:00 95 vs 84
overlord drops started for Dark
4 more gates for Stats
oracle flying around scouting seeing the first hydras coming out
hydra speed for Dark

11:00 142 vs 120
revelation on the hydra ball before being killed
+2 range attack for Dark
pylon going up in the middle of the map as Stats moves out with his gateway army
spines started for Dark after scouting

12:00 159 vs 137
Stats moves onto creep towards the 3rd of Dark
roach hydra army engages
Dark pulls the drones
forcefields going down

13:00 114 vs 121
Stats is able to break through Dark's defense easily
forcefield on the main ramp
Dark ggs!
Stats ties it up 2-2!
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