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Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
April 28 2015 17:13 GMT
#21
can anyone explain why the balance hate is mostly directed towards cyclones? i havent watched a whole lot but both terran and zerg seem to do quite well and it might be smarter to buff protoss instead of nerfing terran which might end up in zvz domination?
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 28 2015 17:23 GMT
#22
On April 29 2015 01:54 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 01:35 JCoto wrote:
No Protosses in, Cyclone still broken....

And there's still Antiprotoss shit going on in chats. The race is sinking as the game design.


man you take this too seriously. It's not like protoss will be removed or it will never be buffed.

Unfortunately
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 28 2015 17:24 GMT
#23
Ravager still really good.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
April 28 2015 17:25 GMT
#24
I think they are playing the old patch.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 17:37:40
April 28 2015 17:35 GMT
#25
Is this oGs nunchuk Top?

And why is Demuslim so salty?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#26
On April 29 2015 02:23 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 01:54 Wildmoon wrote:
On April 29 2015 01:35 JCoto wrote:
No Protosses in, Cyclone still broken....

And there's still Antiprotoss shit going on in chats. The race is sinking as the game design.


man you take this too seriously. It's not like protoss will be removed or it will never be buffed.

Unfortunately


lol, haha, yeah JCoto were are just kidding (partly) :D

Here are my honest thoughts on Protoss if interested http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/legacy-of-the-void/482823-the-state-of-protoss-in-lotv?page=5#87

I do actually feel sorry for Protoss players!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 17:58:54
April 28 2015 17:51 GMT
#27
Dropping sieged tanks on top of your opponents sieged tanks is the stupidest thing in this game (TOP vs Mechanic, around 12:00)

Edit : Stupidest in the right way =)
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
April 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#28
SuperNova vs TOP G3 was really good. :D
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
JCoto
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 19:07:27
April 28 2015 18:42 GMT
#29
On April 29 2015 01:54 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 01:35 JCoto wrote:
No Protosses in, Cyclone still broken....

And there's still Antiprotoss shit going on in chats. The race is sinking as the game design.


man you take this too seriously. It's not like protoss will be removed or it will never be buffed.


Yeah, I know, I Know, but the "Protoss OP, masterrace, patchrace, noskill, amove...." all this talk has seriously damaged the image of the game and creates a bad habit in the comunnity. That's why I feel sad when I hear that kind of antitoss talk, even when Protoss struggles or Terran has been able to roll over MMM for 5 years and Zerg to remax on 50 mutas.

The origins of all that complaints belongs to questionable design decisions, and I think that the community should not blame races for imbalances or promote hate, but Blizz for the questionable designs that have been pulled.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#30
On April 29 2015 02:13 Rain.100 wrote:
can anyone explain why the balance hate is mostly directed towards cyclones? i havent watched a whole lot but both terran and zerg seem to do quite well and it might be smarter to buff protoss instead of nerfing terran which might end up in zvz domination?

It's not as simple as that. Protoss simply doesn't work at all with the stupid economy they're currently “testing”. As for Cyclones, a lot of people dislike it because they're just a Warhound 2.0.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
April 28 2015 19:52 GMT
#31
Ace! Ace!
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
April 28 2015 20:55 GMT
#32
Well, bunker rushing is one way for the finals to end.

I haven't been watching much: has this strategy been common? I was under the impression that Blizzard was really trying to squeeze early cheese with the economy changes
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