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On March 28 2015 05:14 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:12 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Penev wrote:On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:54 stuchiu wrote:
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I'd actually expect Life to slump if he was given mojo from Jaedong. I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit Still not JD's fault though mhmm...which is why I don't hate him as a person, I just want him to lose so I don't have to read the overhyped tyrant is back messages with dancing sheep How do you feel about Flash?
Flash has waaay more anti fans.
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On March 28 2015 05:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:13 Ej_ wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Shellshock wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had Fruitdealer. He showed us the way. I loved Fruitdealer cause it felt like you never knew what he was going to do next. Then Nestea kind of carried on the torch with those spine rushes and stuff i wish i was around in the times of frutidealer and nestea, i probably would have been in love The VODs are on YT. well i've obviously seen some of them  i just thinking it woulda been cool atmosphere to be in.
Artosis only ever shed tears for Nestea.
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On March 28 2015 05:14 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:12 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Penev wrote:On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:54 stuchiu wrote:
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I'd actually expect Life to slump if he was given mojo from Jaedong. I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit Still not JD's fault though mhmm...which is why I don't hate him as a person, I just want him to lose so I don't have to read the overhyped tyrant is back messages with dancing sheep How do you feel about Flash?
Don't really mind how he does. Don't buy into the eternal hype train and I admit it's kinda funny every time it gets derailed
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On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:54 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:53 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 04:52 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 04:52 Yorkie wrote:
Heart has superb bio TvZ. JD never stood a chance Suprised anyone thought he did He gave all of his mojo to Life after all. Jaedong has never had as much mojo as Life. I'd actually expect Life to slump if he was given mojo from Jaedong. I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit I understand why you dislike his fangirls, but that's not something he has too much control all over.
Well I dislike Bbyong because he makes banshees and his name is annoying to spell ,and Solar just because he beat soO at dreamhack while Classic and Zest are some of my favorite players, and I almost love (Gumba bully  ) Innovation (only terran I can say that about), so I guess I shouldn't comment on why other people dislike or like players.
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On March 28 2015 05:15 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 28 2015 05:13 Ej_ wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Shellshock wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had Fruitdealer. He showed us the way. I loved Fruitdealer cause it felt like you never knew what he was going to do next. Then Nestea kind of carried on the torch with those spine rushes and stuff i wish i was around in the times of frutidealer and nestea, i probably would have been in love The VODs are on YT. well i've obviously seen some of them i just thinking it woulda been cool atmosphere to be in. Artosis only ever shed tears for Nestea.
Back when he had passion for SC
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On March 28 2015 05:14 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 Penev wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Penev wrote:On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:
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I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit Still not JD's fault though mhmm...which is why I don't hate him as a person, I just want him to lose so I don't have to read the overhyped tyrant is back messages with dancing sheep How do you feel about Flash? Flash has waaay more anti fans.
Yeah I agree. It never really felt like Flash had that many fans beside the very beginning when he first switched just because of the hype. There are plenty of other players with bigger and louder fan bases these days but Flash still gets a lot of hate
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People tend to be more critical if Flash loses because he has the reputation as God and the Ultimate Weapon so if he isn't winning tournaments going 16-0 they get disappointed. Which is funny either way because as good as Flash was back then he wasn't winning every tournament he touched even back in his bonjwa days.
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On March 28 2015 05:14 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:12 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had I will dispute that claim till my dying day How though? To me it looks like claiming that Mvp isn't the greatest innovator Terran ever had. This has to be swag_bro's alt account right?
Main*
Nah but I mean, can you name without bias another Zerg who changed the meta all by himself in two MUs? Who found the way to be successful mostly via strats and not via stellar macro like soO or micro like Life in a time where Zergs were weak?
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Fruitdealer are you joking? MC, Nestea and MVP won tournaments after that.
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On March 28 2015 05:15 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:54 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:53 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 04:52 HellHound wrote:
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Suprised anyone thought he did He gave all of his mojo to Life after all. Jaedong has never had as much mojo as Life. I'd actually expect Life to slump if he was given mojo from Jaedong. I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit I understand why you dislike his fangirls, but that's not something he has too much control all over. Well I dislike Bbyong because he makes banshees and his name is annoying to spell ,and Solar just because he beat soO at dreamhack while Classic and Zest are some of my favorite players, and I almost like Innovation (only terran I can say that about), so I guess I shouldn't comment on why other people dislike or like players.
change that almost to love
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On March 28 2015 05:14 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:13 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:54 stuchiu wrote:
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I'd actually expect Life to slump if he was given mojo from Jaedong. I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit That's kinda what fans do though dude You have to admit it's more pronounced with players like Flash, Scarlett, JD, Naniwa, etc Well yeah. But that happens when you have a large and loud fanbase
It's not the size of the fan base that matters, it's how they use it
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On March 28 2015 05:15 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 28 2015 05:13 Ej_ wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Shellshock wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had Fruitdealer. He showed us the way. I loved Fruitdealer cause it felt like you never knew what he was going to do next. Then Nestea kind of carried on the torch with those spine rushes and stuff i wish i was around in the times of frutidealer and nestea, i probably would have been in love The VODs are on YT. well i've obviously seen some of them i just thinking it woulda been cool atmosphere to be in. Artosis only ever shed tears for Nestea.
and Yonghwa who was going to be the greatest of all time protoss since 2010
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On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:54 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:53 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 04:52 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 04:52 Yorkie wrote:
Heart has superb bio TvZ. JD never stood a chance Suprised anyone thought he did He gave all of his mojo to Life after all. Jaedong has never had as much mojo as Life. I'd actually expect Life to slump if he was given mojo from Jaedong. I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him
I don't really understand how you can cheer against someone, because the casters/fans hype him too much. If he was a dick or cheater or whatever ok, but cheering against somebody with his personality/attitude is somewhat extreme imo. I don't think he deserves that because you think his fans are annoying.
Well but we had this conversation before I think . No biggie and I just hope Jaedong shows solidd games tomorrow!
Btw I only saw Jaedong play SC:BW once at WCG 2008/9 which I was watching for wc3, before I really started following sc with sc2. So I am a Jaedong fan because of sc2 mainly, not just because of his BW past.
Of course I watched tons of Jaedong BW vods since then, but I wouldn't have done that if he hadn't won me over in sc2.
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On March 28 2015 05:16 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 royalroadweed wrote:On March 28 2015 05:14 Penev wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 Penev wrote:On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:
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Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit Still not JD's fault though mhmm...which is why I don't hate him as a person, I just want him to lose so I don't have to read the overhyped tyrant is back messages with dancing sheep How do you feel about Flash? Flash has waaay more anti fans. Yeah I agree. It never really felt like Flash had that many fans beside the very beginning when he first switched just because of the hype. There are plenty of other players with bigger and louder fan bases these days but Flash still gets a lot of hate
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On March 28 2015 05:16 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had I will dispute that claim till my dying day How though? To me it looks like claiming that Mvp isn't the greatest innovator Terran ever had. This has to be swag_bro's alt account right? Main* Nah but I mean, can you name without bias another Zerg who changed the meta all by himself in two MUs? Who found the way to be successful mostly via strats and not via stellar macro like soO or micro like Life in a time where Zergs were weak?
Nestea
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On March 28 2015 05:16 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had I will dispute that claim till my dying day How though? To me it looks like claiming that Mvp isn't the greatest innovator Terran ever had. This has to be swag_bro's alt account right? Main* Nah but I mean, can you name without bias another Zerg who changed the meta all by himself in two MUs? Who found the way to be successful mostly via strats and not via stellar macro like soO or micro like Life in a time where Zergs were weak?
well, you have to remember though how stellar Stephano's micro was
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On March 28 2015 05:17 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:16 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:14 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:12 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:09 OtherWorld wrote:On March 28 2015 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Three Hatch before Pool is an adaptation of an old BW strat anyways, but Jaedong was not the first person to use it in SC2. Stephano and DRG did it before Jaedong if I remember correctly. Stephano, the greatest innovator Zerg ever had I will dispute that claim till my dying day How though? To me it looks like claiming that Mvp isn't the greatest innovator Terran ever had. This has to be swag_bro's alt account right? Main* Nah but I mean, can you name without bias another Zerg who changed the meta all by himself in two MUs? Who found the way to be successful mostly via strats and not via stellar macro like soO or micro like Life in a time where Zergs were weak? well, you have to remember though how stellar Stephano's micro was
Stephano was one of the best at setting up engagements to go along with your point
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On March 28 2015 05:16 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 05:14 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:13 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:11 GumBa wrote:On March 28 2015 05:10 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:07 HellHound wrote:On March 28 2015 05:05 Yorkie wrote:On March 28 2015 05:00 Musicus wrote:On March 28 2015 04:58 stuchiu wrote:On March 28 2015 04:56 Musicus wrote:
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I'm kinda torn, very happy Jaedong is playing again, but on the other hand the LRs are now back to this... Life is one of the greatest of all time. If Hydra gave his mojo to Jaedong in BW, Id expect Jaedong to slump then too. They are just in different tiers of players. Yeah right now there is no doubt about that I agree. But it kinda feels like nobody sees what Jaedong already did in sc2, when for every other player his achievements would be huge. He also gets way more fan hype based on his legacy for lesser results than most players in sc2. It goes both ways. That particular fact is why I usually cheer against him It kind of weirds me out that your feelings for a player are affected by his fans haha I am extremely indiffrent towards Jaedong btw he is before my time. He wins a game: "THE TYRANT IS BACK FGHSUAJKLJ" He loses a game: "I hope his condition is okay the tyrant shall return he must be tired etc" It goes on and on and gets annoying. Leenock for example has done way more in sc2 but gets not nearly the credit That's kinda what fans do though dude You have to admit it's more pronounced with players like Flash, Scarlett, JD, Naniwa, etc Well yeah. But that happens when you have a large and loud fanbase It's not the size of the fan base that matters, it's how they use it
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