• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:18
CEST 12:18
KST 19:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon84Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?174Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6772 users

[IEM Season IX] Katowice - Day 3 - Page 17

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 260 Next
Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 14 2015 12:39 GMT
#321
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.
maru lover forever
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
March 14 2015 12:40 GMT
#322
Wow Traps reaction is blazingly fast.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
March 14 2015 12:40 GMT
#323
that sign, #cute trap
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2015 12:40 GMT
#324
ok let's see how Fantasy fairs on Catallena
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 14 2015 12:40 GMT
#325
These spawn positions rip trap
Community News
TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 14 2015 12:41 GMT
#326
On March 14 2015 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.

that's false. sure, the meta changes, but not drastically enough for 2014 stuff to be horrible now
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
March 14 2015 12:41 GMT
#327
On March 14 2015 21:40 KtJ wrote:
that sign, #cute trap


How can he be a villain if he is so cute?
-
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2015 12:42 GMT
#328
On March 14 2015 21:41 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.

that's false. sure, the meta changes, but not drastically enough for 2014 stuff to be horrible now

In fact, roaches have been the only unit required to be a progamer for last 3 years.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 14 2015 12:42 GMT
#329
On March 14 2015 21:41 Motlu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:40 KtJ wrote:
that sign, #cute trap


How can he be a villain if he is so cute?

Maybe Flash is the real villain.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2015 12:42 GMT
#330
On March 14 2015 21:42 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:41 Motlu wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:40 KtJ wrote:
that sign, #cute trap


How can he be a villain if he is so cute?

Maybe Flash is the real villain.

Trap is the hero that saves from the horror of TvT
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#331
On March 14 2015 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.


The late late game TvP meta isn't really any different.
Go TAEJA
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 12:44:41
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#332
On March 14 2015 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.


It's still the go-to lategame TvP. Right now it takes much longer to get there though (or doesn't at all) because colossus builds nowadays are made to survive the terran midgame and SCV pulls. That means skipping gas on the third for a while, getting very late storm and focusing on more units midgame. That in turn leaves terrans open to huge 2/2 timings if they tech and expand too greedily. So it's sort of a midgame stalemate where either side can just die immediately if they make a mistake.

Really I blame widow mines.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 12:44:29
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#333
On March 14 2015 21:41 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.

that's false. sure, the meta changes, but not drastically enough for 2014 stuff to be horrible now

not horrible, just not pertinent

no one uses roach max out these days, do they?


E: yeah widow mines were buffed verus protoss weren't they?
maru lover forever
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#334
On March 14 2015 21:42 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:42 The_Templar wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:41 Motlu wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:40 KtJ wrote:
that sign, #cute trap


How can he be a villain if he is so cute?

Maybe Flash is the real villain.

Trap is the hero that saves from the horror of TvT

I like TvT though ;;
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18743 Posts
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#335
On March 14 2015 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:36 sharkie wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?


Only if you have late game understanding of TvP like Taeja did in 2013 and 2014.
Taeja has always had the sickest viking/ghost imo


Yeah, I can't remember him ever losing if he got to the mass orbital ghost/viking stage. And he was better than most people at getting there as well.


Yeah it was so horrible watching Taeja crush Rain...
I felt like crying imba because Taeja was so perfect at it
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#336
On March 14 2015 21:43 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:41 Alchemik wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:36 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:35 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Isn't terran favoured in the ultra late game when they have 20+ ghots+vikings and some marauder medivac?

mb fantasy doesn't know how to play lategame but ye even tod said there was too much bio on the ground he should have loaded up these 3 medivacs way earlier and sacrificed them to remax on ghost viking only maybe also take more bases, planetary at the gold etc


so the best late game composition is 20 ghosts, vikings and marauder Medivac?

I guess I should be looking up innovation's games to see this sort of stuff then.

Taeja is great no doubt but 2013 - 2014 is too old to be of use, the meta changes too much.

that's false. sure, the meta changes, but not drastically enough for 2014 stuff to be horrible now

not horrible, just not pertinent

no one uses roach max out these days, do they?

Haven't seen it in years.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 14 2015 12:43 GMT
#337
On March 14 2015 21:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:42 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:42 The_Templar wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:41 Motlu wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:40 KtJ wrote:
that sign, #cute trap


How can he be a villain if he is so cute?

Maybe Flash is the real villain.

Trap is the hero that saves from the horror of TvT

I like TvT though ;;

Best match up.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 14 2015 12:44 GMT
#338
On March 14 2015 21:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 21:42 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:42 The_Templar wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:41 Motlu wrote:
On March 14 2015 21:40 KtJ wrote:
that sign, #cute trap


How can he be a villain if he is so cute?

Maybe Flash is the real villain.

Trap is the hero that saves from the horror of TvT

I like TvT though ;;

weirdo
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
March 14 2015 12:44 GMT
#339
here we go
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 14 2015 12:44 GMT
#340
Hahahahahaha that probe
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 260 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16, Group C
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
StarCastTV_EN179
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36915
Calm 6961
Bisu 2147
Jaedong 2071
Shuttle 1355
BeSt 613
Leta 586
Horang2 474
Larva 262
Pusan 262
[ Show more ]
Soma 198
Rush 120
ZerO 115
Stork 94
Hyun 78
Dewaltoss 77
Noble 77
Killer 59
Sharp 35
Aegong 35
sSak 27
soO 25
Sexy 24
Bale 22
Sacsri 19
ToSsGirL 19
zelot 18
Terrorterran 17
HiyA 15
Barracks 15
sorry 15
JulyZerg 14
Hm[arnc] 12
SilentControl 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1534
shoxiejesuss1443
zeus263
Other Games
Grubby5898
singsing1165
Pyrionflax204
Lowko43
Mew2King23
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 8826
Other Games
gamesdonequick978
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 151
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 53
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt469
Other Games
• WagamamaTV205
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
42m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 42m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 42m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d
PiGosaur Cup
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.