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Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
March 11 2015 11:37 GMT
#561
Fuck, I haven't gotten to watch the GSL in a few months. I was planning on watching this series but I missed it...but I guess I didn't miss much ;(
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 11 2015 11:37 GMT
#562
On March 11 2015 20:35 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these?
I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline.
You think online should be rated just as highly?


Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.

Offline shows the player's ability to deal with a lot of pressure, but I don't see why online should be completely disregarded.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 11 2015 11:38 GMT
#563
NOooooooooooooo I missed it too even with daylight saving time.
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 11 2015 11:39 GMT
#564
Life has an 80% win-rate against Koreans Zergs in 2015.
INnoVation has an 89% win-rate against Korean Protosses in 2015.
Maru has an 80% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.
Parting has a 92% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.

These are the only players with 80% or above vs Koreans in any match-up.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 11 2015 11:40 GMT
#565
On March 11 2015 20:39 Sakat wrote:
Life has an 80% win-rate against Koreans Zergs in 2015.
INnoVation has an 89% win-rate against Korean Protosses in 2015.
Maru has an 80% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.
Parting has a 92% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.

These are the only players with 80% or above vs Koreans in any match-up.

Sample size tho. Life only played 10 ZvZ maps.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 11:41:24
March 11 2015 11:40 GMT
#566
:/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO.
How were the games?
And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
March 11 2015 11:41 GMT
#567
On March 11 2015 20:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 20:39 Sakat wrote:
Life has an 80% win-rate against Koreans Zergs in 2015.
INnoVation has an 89% win-rate against Korean Protosses in 2015.
Maru has an 80% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.
Parting has a 92% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.

These are the only players with 80% or above vs Koreans in any match-up.

Sample size tho. Life only played 10 ZvZ maps.

I know, but I was looking at 2015 only.
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 11 2015 11:42 GMT
#568
Now this is the kind of result I expected. Well done parting
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 11 2015 11:44 GMT
#569
On March 11 2015 20:40 OtherWorld wrote:
:/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO.
How were the games?
And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3


As great as a 4-1 can hope to be. Lots of great build choices by both players, MMA had a couple of stellar early holds and one amazing skilled WM play. PartinG's game sense was unimpeachable.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 11:51:22
March 11 2015 11:51 GMT
#570
On March 11 2015 20:40 OtherWorld wrote:
:/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO.
How were the games?
And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3

One-sided but fun to watch, would recommend the series overall. Also the above post, both players played really well.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 11 2015 11:52 GMT
#571
Thanks guys, I'll watch dem sweet O'Gaming Source quality VODs then
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 11 2015 11:53 GMT
#572
On March 11 2015 20:35 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these?
I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline.
You think online should be rated just as highly?


Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.

Well i just think online play overall isn't really on the same prestige lvl as offline. The weekly tournaments are in there and while i think it is nice to have them, usually the player pool isn't really the same at all.
This might be different for big online qualifiers though.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 11 2015 12:01 GMT
#573
(((( MMA

Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 11 2015 12:09 GMT
#574
On March 11 2015 20:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 20:40 OtherWorld wrote:
:/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO.
How were the games?
And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3


As great as a 4-1 can hope to be. Lots of great build choices by both players, MMA had a couple of stellar early holds and one amazing skilled WM play. PartinG's game sense was unimpeachable.


I'll watch the games then.

I'm sad that MMA lost but I'm so proud of him nevertheless. He certainly is the player with the best results in this GSL considering where he just come from.

Come on BigBoy, time to show your best in a GSL final !
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 11 2015 12:15 GMT
#575
Parting finally reaches his first GSL final. After being so consistent in Code S he's finally going all the way. Life or herO are both tougher than MMA imo (though MMA's run this season was surprising and impressive)
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 11 2015 12:40 GMT
#576
I hope whoever comes out of the other semi (fingers crossed for Life) utterly destroys PartinG.
feebleFanfare
Profile Joined December 2014
76 Posts
March 11 2015 13:10 GMT
#577
On March 11 2015 20:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 20:35 pure.Wasted wrote:
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these?
I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline.
You think online should be rated just as highly?


Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.

Offline shows the player's ability to deal with a lot of pressure, but I don't see why online should be completely disregarded.


I think the problem arises when you're comparing two players and only one of them regularly plays online stuff. They might face roughly the same number of tough opponents, but if one of them is playing online he will most likely have played more games against easier opponents. PartinG has clean sweep wins from this year over KeeN, Center and Spear, all of whom are probably worse than any Korean Terran that herO has played this year.

The stat that stands out for me is that Maru is the only Terran that either of them have lost to this year. It's pretty hard to pick who's better IMO.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 11 2015 13:17 GMT
#578
On March 11 2015 22:10 feebleFanfare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 20:37 Elentos wrote:
On March 11 2015 20:35 pure.Wasted wrote:
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these?
I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline.
You think online should be rated just as highly?


Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.

Offline shows the player's ability to deal with a lot of pressure, but I don't see why online should be completely disregarded.


I think the problem arises when you're comparing two players and only one of them regularly plays online stuff. They might face roughly the same number of tough opponents, but if one of them is playing online he will most likely have played more games against easier opponents. PartinG has clean sweep wins from this year over KeeN, Center and Spear, all of whom are probably worse than any Korean Terran that herO has played this year.

The stat that stands out for me is that Maru is the only Terran that either of them have lost to this year. It's pretty hard to pick who's better IMO.

Yeah exactly, it's almost like comparing stats of players who play in different regions. A lot of online play will usually boost your winrates quite a bit due to lesser competition.
That's the reason i always filter koreans AND offline
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 11 2015 13:27 GMT
#579
big boooooooy
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seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
March 11 2015 13:44 GMT
#580
On March 11 2015 20:37 Clicker wrote:
Fuck, I haven't gotten to watch the GSL in a few months. I was planning on watching this series but I missed it...but I guess I didn't miss much ;(


why would you think that? The series was pretty one sided but definitely worth watching, especialy for Partings immaculate micro and sick mind game-y build orders.
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