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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 12:57 GMT
#221
Hahahaha Kespa go fuck yourselves
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gdarky
Profile Joined August 2014
Latvia78 Posts
February 09 2015 13:13 GMT
#222
On February 09 2015 21:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People like to complain about Kespa i guess. They asbolutely did the right thing, it simply doesn't matter if Startale could have done something differently, they didn't show up...
"just delay the match", yeah i am sure it's completely reasonable to delay everything when the schedule is probably pretty tight there. We are talking about spotv, not some relatively flexible streaming platform.
It sucks that we don't get the games, but to argue that "it's kespa's fault and Kespa evil bla bla bla" is really weird and stupid.


I'am agree. There is rules and it's must to be equal for everyone. Proleague isn't online tournament for $1,000 prizepool. It's TV show, that must be aired in time. One side of the today games are violating the rules, so punishment is ok. Or next time every team can be late with some reasons. I don't think that Kespa must to be ashame for the ST delay.

For today i cheered for ST and waited the games online like everyone here.
1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
February 09 2015 13:16 GMT
#223
On February 09 2015 21:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People like to complain about Kespa i guess. They asbolutely did the right thing, it simply doesn't matter if Startale could have done something differently, they didn't show up...
"just delay the match", yeah i am sure it's completely reasonable to delay everything when the schedule is probably pretty tight there. We are talking about spotv, not some relatively flexible streaming platform.
It sucks that we don't get the games, but to argue that "it's kespa's fault and Kespa evil bla bla bla" is really weird and stupid.


The schedule is tight? For a Bo9 series that could go all 9 games, where every match could conceivably last half an hour, and that's completely disregarding any technical difficulties that could come up? That's your theory?

I've never seen a KeSPA event get shut down or postponed because there wasn't enough time to close it out, and you're suggesting they couldn't have waited for a traffic jam to get resolved? Lol. If time is really that tight, dock a point from ST for every half hour they miss. Do something. But don't just play it off like it couldn't matter less.

If they got confirmation from ST that the traffic jam is so bad, they won't be able to get to the studio for another 5 hours, guaranteed, then SAY THAT IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT. Transparency isn't rocket science.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 09 2015 13:24 GMT
#224
On February 09 2015 22:16 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People like to complain about Kespa i guess. They asbolutely did the right thing, it simply doesn't matter if Startale could have done something differently, they didn't show up...
"just delay the match", yeah i am sure it's completely reasonable to delay everything when the schedule is probably pretty tight there. We are talking about spotv, not some relatively flexible streaming platform.
It sucks that we don't get the games, but to argue that "it's kespa's fault and Kespa evil bla bla bla" is really weird and stupid.


The schedule is tight? For a Bo9 series that could go all 9 games, where every match could conceivably last half an hour, and that's completely disregarding any technical difficulties that could come up? That's your theory?

I've never seen a KeSPA event get shut down or postponed because there wasn't enough time to close it out, and you're suggesting they couldn't have waited for a traffic jam to get resolved? Lol. If time is really that tight, dock a point from ST for every half hour they miss. Do something. But don't just play it off like it couldn't matter less.

If they got confirmation from ST that the traffic jam is so bad, they won't be able to get to the studio for another 5 hours, guaranteed, then SAY THAT IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT. Transparency isn't rocket science.


It is tight cause tomorrow there is already the next match. So the games HAVE TO be played today no matter what.
It is tight cause even when they have some extra time here and there (cause they can't know how many games are needed) you still have to start around the expected time for it to work.
I agree about the transparency, maybe that would stop some of the stupid "hate" here.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
February 09 2015 14:13 GMT
#225
Lol omg, this is so hilarious.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
February 09 2015 16:39 GMT
#226
Good thing I didn't wake up for this lol. It's too bad, this could've been a sick match.
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vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
February 09 2015 18:11 GMT
#227
Pretty lame. -.-
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
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Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
February 09 2015 20:35 GMT
#228
On February 09 2015 22:16 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People like to complain about Kespa i guess. They asbolutely did the right thing, it simply doesn't matter if Startale could have done something differently, they didn't show up...
"just delay the match", yeah i am sure it's completely reasonable to delay everything when the schedule is probably pretty tight there. We are talking about spotv, not some relatively flexible streaming platform.
It sucks that we don't get the games, but to argue that "it's kespa's fault and Kespa evil bla bla bla" is really weird and stupid.


The schedule is tight? For a Bo9 series that could go all 9 games, where every match could conceivably last half an hour, and that's completely disregarding any technical difficulties that could come up? That's your theory?

I've never seen a KeSPA event get shut down or postponed because there wasn't enough time to close it out, and you're suggesting they couldn't have waited for a traffic jam to get resolved? Lol. If time is really that tight, dock a point from ST for every half hour they miss. Do something. But don't just play it off like it couldn't matter less.

If they got confirmation from ST that the traffic jam is so bad, they won't be able to get to the studio for another 5 hours, guaranteed, then SAY THAT IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT. Transparency isn't rocket science.

Um, quite simply, they couldn't, and frankly, to am extent, shouldn't care less...
They are a legitimate business running a professional tournament with guidelines, rules, and regulations. When a player or team breaks any of these, consequences are adhered to. Welcome to the world of order and civilization...
if there is bad weather, plans must be made to leave early.

Did you know that you can get fired from your job for being late to work? Even if there is a traffic jam or a blizzard, a company has every right to uphold their guidelines for what is acceptable in their workplace. If there is rush hour traffic, a blizzard, construction, a traffic accident, etc, the individual (or in this case, the team) is responsible for making the proper arrangements to leave on time. Oh, and btw, your company does not have to provide you with proper transparency. (Of course transparency goes all long way in the promotion of PR)

It takes me 22 minutes to commute to work everyday. I leave no later than 45 minutes before my shift to ensure an OK time arrival. If I make an appointment during rush hour, I leave extremely early to ensure promptness. For a professional not to do so is absurd.

I also was sad that I stayed up on my day off to watch JinAir play and the match wasn't played, but shit happens and we live.
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rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
February 09 2015 20:38 GMT
#229
On February 09 2015 20:20 Boucot wrote:
I remember that EG-TL arrived late one time for Proleague and got to start with a 0-1 disadvantage against Woongjin Stars (then they won the match thanks tp Stephano). Why couldn't they do that this time ? Starting a show one hour late is not that bad and everyone would have understood. It's not lile StarTale was responsible at all, there was an accident in a tunnel -__-

I will never understand KeSPA.

That was one player arriving late , as opposed to the whole team arriving late .
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 09 2015 21:13 GMT
#230
Best series I have ever seen tbh
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 09 2015 21:23 GMT
#231
On February 10 2015 06:13 GumBa wrote:
Best series I have ever seen tbh

And someone even "predicted" it

On February 09 2015 09:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sOs will allkill startale, nothing to see here!

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
February 10 2015 04:29 GMT
#232
Where are the vods for this? Can't find em anywhere.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 10 2015 17:18 GMT
#233
On February 10 2015 13:29 ElMeanYo wrote:
Where are the vods for this? Can't find em anywhere.

i mean there's nothing to see
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
February 10 2015 17:22 GMT
#234
On February 11 2015 02:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 13:29 ElMeanYo wrote:
Where are the vods for this? Can't find em anywhere.

i mean there's nothing to see



What do you mean? sOs all killed. INCREDIBLE!!!!!
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
February 10 2015 17:35 GMT
#235
I'd say Kespa should not be faulted at all here. They just followed a rule book. It is a cultural thing that Koreans do. They strictly adhere to rules because without rules and enforcement, teams can just think they can be late and get away with it. Kespa is just making an example out of Startale. Next time, the manager should think ahead and account for things like weather and traffic. If this was truly as important to them as they claim, they should have gotten some hotel rooms near the venue. This was 100% Startale's fault for not logically thinking of all possible delays and either trying to prevent them (if can be) or avoiding them.

The reason Asians are so economically successful is because they go by the book and enforce all laws. Bending the rules would put a disruption in the flow of things and cause delays and mishaps, slowing things down. Rules are rules and you can't go against them. If Startale makes it to playoffs next time, they better make damn sure that they avoid things like snow and traffic. This forfeit could have been easily prevented by simply getting some hotel rooms near the venue. Tsk tsk Startale.
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